Re: [Qgis-user] GRASS support lost (again) on Ubuntu/Mint

2017-10-08 Thread Patrick Dunford
In the educational institution where I am based, they have web filtering. Although there is no trouble in pinging keyserver.ubuntu.com, these apt-key commands always time out when attempting to access any of a number of different keyservers. I can only assume it uses a particular port, and

Re: [Qgis-user] GRASS support lost (again) on Ubuntu/Mint

2017-09-28 Thread Angelos Tzotsos
We have tried to build everything on experimental ppa before we move the packages to unstable ppa (and when we move packages to unstable we send an e-mail to the QGIS packagers to rebuild their repo). Unfortunately not all UbuntuGIS packagers wait until they publish on unstable, so things like

Re: [Qgis-user] GRASS support lost (again) on Ubuntu/Mint

2017-09-28 Thread Angelos Tzotsos
On 09/28/2017 03:31 PM, Andre Joost wrote: Am 27.09.2017 um 19:21 schrieb Alex M: Ah that makes sense, if qgis.org builds against ubuntugis, then GRASS updates will always cause this, since a rebuild of qgis.org is not triggered. The same applies to GDAl (and maybe PROJ if the planned

Re: [Qgis-user] GRASS support lost (again) on Ubuntu/Mint

2017-09-28 Thread Andre Joost
Am 27.09.2017 um 19:21 schrieb Alex M: Ah that makes sense, if qgis.org builds against ubuntugis, then GRASS updates will always cause this, since a rebuild of qgis.org is not triggered. The same applies to GDAl (and maybe PROJ if the planned improvements come on the way). > > Seems like

Re: [Qgis-user] GRASS support lost (again) on Ubuntu/Mint

2017-09-27 Thread Patrick Dunford
Isn't there possibly an option not to release packages for xenial and older until it's tested that ubuntugis works. As it only affects these older versions. I can sympathise with OPs as I have been caught many times forgetting to comment out the repos in sources.list and unexpectedly being

Re: [Qgis-user] GRASS support lost (again) on Ubuntu/Mint

2017-09-27 Thread Micha Silver
Hi Alex On 09/27/2017 07:57 PM, Alex M wrote: On 09/26/2017 01:36 AM, Micha Silver wrote: After the recent update to QGIS 2.18.13, GRASS support is gone. No plugin and no provider. Micha, I can at least explain why this has happened in the

Re: [Qgis-user] GRASS support lost (again) on Ubuntu/Mint

2017-09-27 Thread Alex M
On 09/27/2017 10:08 AM, Andre Joost wrote: > Am 27.09.2017 um 18:57 schrieb Alex M: > >> My recommendation is that you do not upgrade QGIS as soon as the update >> shows up but wait a day or two. Make sure the corresponding GRASS update >> is available. >> > > In this case, QGIS 2.18.13 worked

Re: [Qgis-user] GRASS support lost (again) on Ubuntu/Mint

2017-09-27 Thread Andre Joost
Am 27.09.2017 um 18:57 schrieb Alex M: My recommendation is that you do not upgrade QGIS as soon as the update shows up but wait a day or two. Make sure the corresponding GRASS update is available. In this case, QGIS 2.18.13 worked for just one day, then GRASS got updated and broke the qgis

Re: [Qgis-user] GRASS support lost (again) on Ubuntu/Mint

2017-09-27 Thread Alex M
On 09/26/2017 01:36 AM, Micha Silver wrote: > After the recent update to QGIS 2.18.13, GRASS support is gone. No plugin and > no > provider. > > My apt sources includes: > deb http://qgis.org/ubuntugis xenial main > deb-src http://qgis.org/ubuntugis xenial main > deb

Re: [Qgis-user] GRASS support lost (again) on Ubuntu/Mint

2017-09-27 Thread Andre Joost
Am 27.09.2017 um 11:19 schrieb Patrick Dunford: There is also a problem with a missing key for the ubuntugis repositories (089EBE08314DF160). There are no instructions provided on where the key can be obtained. If you talkabout the ubuntugis ppa, you can read the instructions on

Re: [Qgis-user] GRASS support lost (again) on Ubuntu/Mint

2017-09-27 Thread Matthias Kuhn
Hi, If documentation on the website is missing, we will be very happy to get a pull request for a homepage update from anyone. https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Website/edit/master/source/site/forusers/alldownloads.rst Thanks a lot! Matthias On 09/27/2017 11:50 AM, Andreas Wicht wrote: > On 27

Re: [Qgis-user] GRASS support lost (again) on Ubuntu/Mint

2017-09-27 Thread Andreas Wicht
On 27 September 2017 at 11:19, Patrick Dunford wrote: > There is also a problem with a missing key for the ubuntugis repositories > (089EBE08314DF160). There are no instructions provided on where the key can > be obtained. That would be a general approach to get a

Re: [Qgis-user] GRASS support lost (again) on Ubuntu/Mint

2017-09-27 Thread Patrick Dunford
There is also a problem with a missing key for the ubuntugis repositories (089EBE08314DF160). There are no instructions provided on where the key can be obtained. On 27/09/17 19:30, Andre Joost wrote: Am 26.09.2017 um 21:04 schrieb Patrick Dunford: If you can actually state where abouts

Re: [Qgis-user] GRASS support lost (again) on Ubuntu/Mint

2017-09-27 Thread Andre Joost
Am 26.09.2017 um 21:04 schrieb Patrick Dunford: If you can actually state where abouts in the Ubuntugis repository the actual packages that will make 2.18.13 work on Ubuntu 16.04 are because they are not in the regular Ubuntugis repository. GRASS 7.2.1 for xenial is now in the Ubuntugis

Re: [Qgis-user] GRASS support lost (again) on Ubuntu/Mint

2017-09-26 Thread Patrick Dunford
I have tested on 16.04 and GRASS plugin does not work on Qgis 2.18.13 on Ubuntu Xenial with the Ubuntugis packages, just as it was reported at the top of this thread. That is Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, not any derivative like Linux Mint. The reason the newer versions work for GRASS is they don't need

Re: [Qgis-user] GRASS support lost (again) on Ubuntu/Mint

2017-09-26 Thread Andre Joost
Am 26.09.2017 um 15:30 schrieb Patrick Dunford: The issue with support for Xenial is not directly a Qgis responsibility. It is relying on (a) the lack of support from the Ubuntu official repositories and (b) the lack of timely updating of the third party Ubuntugis repository. Neither of those

Re: [Qgis-user] GRASS support lost (again) on Ubuntu/Mint

2017-09-26 Thread Andre Joost
Am 26.09.2017 um 14:50 schrieb Micha Silver: Not sure I follow you. From the QGIS download page the recommended repo for ubuntu *is ubuntugis* and has been for ages, if I'm not mistaken. That's where all the recent packages are. Not quite:There is one toolchain with Ubuntugis and one without

Re: [Qgis-user] GRASS support lost (again) on Ubuntu/Mint

2017-09-26 Thread Patrick Dunford
You have cited that the issue is with Ubuntugis. Ubuntugis is not hosted by Qgis, and they have therefore no direct control over the versions of packages there. Hence the packages there are causing issues. The issue with support for Xenial is not directly a Qgis responsibility. It is relying

Re: [Qgis-user] GRASS support lost (again) on Ubuntu/Mint

2017-09-26 Thread Micha Silver
Hi Patrick On 09/26/2017 02:10 PM, Patrick Dunford wrote: The issue is, even the latest version of Mint is based on Xenial - you don't have the means to upgrade the base. If I have a later version of Ubuntu or Debian than

Re: [Qgis-user] GRASS support lost (again) on Ubuntu/Mint

2017-09-26 Thread Patrick Dunford
The issue is, even the latest version of Mint is based on Xenial - you don't have the means to upgrade the base. If I have a later version of Ubuntu or Debian than Xenial I don't need to use the ubuntugis repository - problem solved. Qgis do not provide the ubuntugis repository so they

Re: [Qgis-user] GRASS support lost (again) on Ubuntu/Mint

2017-09-26 Thread Bernd Vogelgesang
Am 26.09.2017, 10:40 Uhr, schrieb Patrick Dunford : There are some issues supporting xenial, are you able to test on a more recent version of Ubuntu or Debian, maybe in a virtual >machine. I am going to have a look at my 17.04 vm with the latest 2.18 to see. I

Re: [Qgis-user] GRASS support lost (again) on Ubuntu/Mint

2017-09-26 Thread Patrick Dunford
There are some issues supporting xenial, are you able to test on a more recent version of Ubuntu or Debian, maybe in a virtual machine. I am going to have a look at my 17.04 vm with the latest 2.18 to see. I would not recommend Mint - apart from being not an officially supported distro, the

[Qgis-user] GRASS support lost (again) on Ubuntu/Mint

2017-09-26 Thread Micha Silver
After the recent update to QGIS 2.18.13, GRASS support is gone. No plugin and no provider. My apt sources includes: deb http://qgis.org/ubuntugis xenial main deb-src http://qgis.org/ubuntugis xenial main deb