Re: [Ql-Users] Ql-Users Digest, Vol 73, Issue 21
ql-users-requ...@lists.q-v-d.com wrote: Send Ql-Users mailing list submissions to ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.q-v-d.com/listinfo.cgi/ql-users-q-v-d.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ql-users-requ...@lists.q-v-d.com You can reach the person managing the list at ql-users-ow...@lists.q-v-d.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Ql-Users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Odd problems with a QL and Trump Card (Rich Mellor) -- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 13:24:29 + From: Rich Mellor To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Cc: Howard Subject: [Ql-Users] Odd problems with a QL and Trump Card Message-ID: <4bae070d.7060...@rwapservices.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I have a customer who purchased a second hand QL off ebay and a Trump Card from me. The QL was in a poor state and would not start - but he fetched all the chips out and reseated them, so it starts fine. However, as soon as he plugged the Trump Card into the machine - it gets through the chequer-board memory test - then comes up with a grey screen. The PSU seemed under powered, so he has replaced the PSU and the Trump Card + QL then started fine a couple of times. However, having left the computer and Trump Card for a few days - he is back to the same problem on start-up Does anyone have any suggestions as to what this may be - I wonder if it could be the 68008 chip?? I forgot to add this , you can also explore http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html to inventory your PC hardware and software, is free, and very informative with out any security concerns -- Paul Holmgren Mine: 2 57 300-C's in Indy Hers: 05 PT GT R/T HO Stage 1 Hoosier Corps L#6 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Top Quote/Bottom Post
subject was - "Cakking Dilwyn" I've changed the subject line - Dilwyn's bin well and truely 'Cakked' already, poor lad :o) Norman said - "... If we choose the "standard" bottom posting then we can read the salient points of the conversation from the top downwards - like reading a newspaper or book etc. Mind you, that does rather depend on people trimming out all the cruft and leaving only the salient points. " -- I'm not 'Thunderbird' or 'usenet' or nowt else, I'm just 'me' and I agree with Norman and Co's salience. I intuitively think, it's 'intuitive'. What about a binary vote - eh? :) 0 -Top Quote/Bottom Post 1 - TopPost/Bottom Quote In passing, I notice that - 1) Norman did not commit himself to 'top down' *programing*. 2) This posting is neither 0 nor 1! It's 0 with a 'header' and 'footer'. but I do hope it's 'intuitive'! ATB John in Wales ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Cakking Dilwyn
On 31/03/2010 18:39, Norman Dunbar wrote: On 31/03/10 17:59, Rich Mellor wrote: I would prefer bottom quoting - that is the default in Thunderbird! If I may offer an opinion too... If we choose the "standard" bottom posting then we can read the salient points of the conversation from the top downwards - like reading a newspaper or book etc. Mind you, that does rather depend on people trimming out all the cruft and leaving only the salient points! I'm Thunderbird too. (Well, I'm not a big green thing with small stubby wings, but you get my drift!) Cheers, Norman. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2781 - Release Date: 03/31/10 07:32:00 OK, since I also use Thunderbird, I have no wish to have flames coming from Tony. Then it at the bottom we quote. However on saying that the default quoting can be changed in the Thunderbird options. Derek ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Ql-Users Digest, Vol 73, Issue 21
ql-users-requ...@lists.q-v-d.com wrote: Send Ql-Users mailing list submissions to ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.q-v-d.com/listinfo.cgi/ql-users-q-v-d.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ql-users-requ...@lists.q-v-d.com You can reach the person managing the list at ql-users-ow...@lists.q-v-d.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Ql-Users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Odd problems with a QL and Trump Card (Rich Mellor) -- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 13:24:29 + From: Rich Mellor To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Cc: Howard Subject: [Ql-Users] Odd problems with a QL and Trump Card Message-ID: <4bae070d.7060...@rwapservices.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I have a customer who purchased a second hand QL off ebay and a Trump Card from me. The QL was in a poor state and would not start - but he fetched all the chips out and reseated them, so it starts fine. However, as soon as he plugged the Trump Card into the machine - it gets through the chequer-board memory test - then comes up with a grey screen. The PSU seemed under powered, so he has replaced the PSU and the Trump Card + QL then started fine a couple of times. However, having left the computer and Trump Card for a few days - he is back to the same problem on start-up Does anyone have any suggestions as to what this may be - I wonder if it could be the 68008 chip?? back in the days of yore, we used to 'cure' QL's with marginal power problems by replacing the 2 ROM's with a CMOS EPROM, really dropped the milliamp draw of the QL's power supply bits. Somewhere in the back of my mind it seems that it reduced the total draw by up to 30% -- Paul Holmgren Mine: 2 57 300-C's in Indy Hers: 05 PT GT R/T HO Stage 1 Hoosier Corps L#6 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] Graphics Card
Slighty Not a response, but do you know about SIW (PC softeware) ?? it peeks at your PC's innerds and reports what all the little bits are and can do, it builds a nice inventory of all the motherboard slots also! -- Paul Holmgren Mine: 2 57 300-C's in Indy Hers: 05 PT GT R/T HO Stage 1 Hoosier Corps L#6 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Cakking Dilwyn
On 31/03/10 17:59, Rich Mellor wrote: > I would prefer bottom quoting - that is the default in Thunderbird! If I may offer an opinion too... If we choose the "standard" bottom posting then we can read the salient points of the conversation from the top downwards - like reading a newspaper or book etc. Mind you, that does rather depend on people trimming out all the cruft and leaving only the salient points! I'm Thunderbird too. (Well, I'm not a big green thing with small stubby wings, but you get my drift!) Cheers, Norman. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Cakking Dilwyn
Tony Firshman wrote: Derek Stewart wrote, On 31/03/10 17:37: I did not have a vote in this decision, in my opinion, the text should be at the top and quoting at the bottom. (8-)# We have to choose one only and my vote (along with the *whole* of usenet) is for bottom posting (with quoted text at the top). In fact one gets flamed on usenet for bottom quoting. This also adds the benefit of making judicious editing feasible. However the main reason for needed top quoting is that it is very very hard to pick up a thread if you did not start at the beginning. We must choose one, and top quoting, in fact, seems more common here. Tony I would prefer bottom quoting - that is the default in Thunderbird! -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk http://www.rwapservices.co.uk -- Try out our new site: http://sellmyretro.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Cakking Dilwyn
On 31/03/2010 17:55, Tony Firshman wrote: Derek Stewart wrote, On 31/03/10 17:37: I did not have a vote in this decision, in my opinion, the text should be at the top and quoting at the bottom. (8-)# We have to choose one only and my vote (along with the *whole* of usenet) is for bottom posting (with quoted text at the top). In fact one gets flamed on usenet for bottom quoting. This also adds the benefit of making judicious editing feasible. However the main reason for needed top quoting is that it is very very hard to pick up a thread if you did not start at the beginning. We must choose one, and top quoting, in fact, seems more common here. Tony No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2780 - Release Date: 03/30/10 19:32:00 Another reason not use USENET... not QL Derek ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Cakking Dilwyn
Derek Stewart wrote, On 31/03/10 17:37: I did not have a vote in this decision, in my opinion, the text should be at the top and quoting at the bottom. (8-)# We have to choose one only and my vote (along with the *whole* of usenet) is for bottom posting (with quoted text at the top). In fact one gets flamed on usenet for bottom quoting. This also adds the benefit of making judicious editing feasible. However the main reason for needed top quoting is that it is very very hard to pick up a thread if you did not start at the beginning. We must choose one, and top quoting, in fact, seems more common here. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Cakking Dilwyn
I did not have a vote in this decision, in my opinion, the text should be at the top and quoting at the bottom. Derek On 31/03/2010 09:12, Tony Firshman wrote: Rich Mellor wrote: Tony Firshman wrote: dilwyn DOT jones AT dj DOT softnet DOT co DOT uk is not working. A message that you sent has not yet been delivered to one or more of its recipients after more than 24 hours on the queue on mailbox.worldnews.com. The message identifier is: 1NwIcR-00066Z-Q5 The date of the message is:Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:22:33 +0100 The subject of the message is: Re: [Ql-Users] Graphics Card - What address can I use? > Dilwyn did post his new email address some time ago > dilwyn AT evans1511 DOT fsnet DOT co DOT uk Thanks. Didn't we have a long discussion here about top and bottom posting, and decide bottom posting was the preferred way? I edited this reply to bottom posting. Top posting makes it harder to read. I don't know any usenet group that uses anything but bottom posting, and this group looks very much like usenet in my mailer. ... and sorry for 'cakking' you, Dilwyn (8-)# Tony ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2780 - Release Date: 03/30/10 19:32:00 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Cakking Dilwyn
Rich Mellor wrote: Tony Firshman wrote: dilwyn DOT jones AT dj DOT softnet DOT co DOT uk is not working. A message that you sent has not yet been delivered to one or more of its recipients after more than 24 hours on the queue on mailbox.worldnews.com. The message identifier is: 1NwIcR-00066Z-Q5 The date of the message is:Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:22:33 +0100 The subject of the message is: Re: [Ql-Users] Graphics Card - What address can I use? > Dilwyn did post his new email address some time ago > dilwyn AT evans1511 DOT fsnet DOT co DOT uk Thanks. Didn't we have a long discussion here about top and bottom posting, and decide bottom posting was the preferred way? I edited this reply to bottom posting. Top posting makes it harder to read. I don't know any usenet group that uses anything but bottom posting, and this group looks very much like usenet in my mailer. ... and sorry for 'cakking' you, Dilwyn (8-)# He he, the Softnet ISP closed down many years ago, please update your records Tony ;-)) The preferred email address is as above (the one I use for this list). I'll send you the full list of email addresses for me in a private email Ironically, of all my email addresses over the years, the above Softnet one is the only one which no longer works! Dilwyn ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Cakking Dilwyn
Rich Mellor wrote: Tony Firshman wrote: dilwyn DOT jones AT dj DOT softnet DOT co DOT uk is not working. A message that you sent has not yet been delivered to one or more of its recipients after more than 24 hours on the queue on mailbox.worldnews.com. The message identifier is: 1NwIcR-00066Z-Q5 The date of the message is:Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:22:33 +0100 The subject of the message is: Re: [Ql-Users] Graphics Card - What address can I use? > Dilwyn did post his new email address some time ago > dilwyn AT evans1511 DOT fsnet DOT co DOT uk Thanks. Didn't we have a long discussion here about top and bottom posting, and decide bottom posting was the preferred way? I edited this reply to bottom posting. Top posting makes it harder to read. I don't know any usenet group that uses anything but bottom posting, and this group looks very much like usenet in my mailer. ... and sorry for 'cakking' you, Dilwyn (8-)# Tony ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Cakking Dilwyn
Dilwyn did post his new email address some time ago dilwyn AT evans1511 DOT fsnet DOT co DOT uk Rich Tony Firshman wrote: Dilwyn/ dilwyn DOT jones AT dj DOT softnet DOT co DOT uk is not working. A message that you sent has not yet been delivered to one or more of its recipients after more than 24 hours on the queue on mailbox.worldnews.com. The message identifier is: 1NwIcR-00066Z-Q5 The date of the message is:Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:22:33 +0100 The subject of the message is: Re: [Ql-Users] Graphics Card - What address can I use? Tony ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk http://www.rwapservices.co.uk -- Try out our new site: http://sellmyretro.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] Cakking Dilwyn
Dilwyn/ dilwyn DOT jones AT dj DOT softnet DOT co DOT uk is not working. A message that you sent has not yet been delivered to one or more of its recipients after more than 24 hours on the queue on mailbox.worldnews.com. The message identifier is: 1NwIcR-00066Z-Q5 The date of the message is:Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:22:33 +0100 The subject of the message is: Re: [Ql-Users] Graphics Card - What address can I use? Tony ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm