[Ql-Users] Quantum Webring

2011-07-11 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Having been a member of the Quantum Webring since it's early days, I 
am finding myself a bit frustrated with a problem which has crept up 
in recent times.


Visitors to www.dilwyn.me.uk are sometimes (seemingly randomly) 
redirected to the webring hub, which is hugely annoying for visitors 
who do not want to use the webring.


I searched their forum and asked for help, but got what amounted to a 
standard reply saying that rthey are unaware of any issues, despite at 
least 2 others stating that this happens with their (non-QL) rings 
too.


The simple answer is to ditch the webring code (bottom of the page), 
but I'd rather try to resolve it first.


Anyone else have experience fo this and how to fix it?

Dilwyn Jones



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Re: [Ql-Users] Quantum Webring

2011-07-11 Thread Tony Firshman

Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 11/Jul/11 18:11 | Jul11:

Dilwyn/

Having been a member of the Quantum Webring since it's early days, I am
finding myself a bit frustrated with a problem which has crept up in
recent times.

Visitors to www.dilwyn.me.uk are sometimes (seemingly randomly)
redirected to the webring hub, which is hugely annoying for visitors who
do not want to use the webring.

I searched their forum and asked for help, but got what amounted to a
standard reply saying that rthey are unaware of any issues, despite at
least 2 others stating that this happens with their (non-QL) rings too.

The simple answer is to ditch the webring code (bottom of the page), but
I'd rather try to resolve it first.

Anyone else have experience fo this and how to fix it?

Ah yes - I had this issue accessing your site as well only last week. 
Thought it was me!

No idea though what causes it.
I did though use a Google search result.  Maybe Google sometimes lists 
the webring link rather than your site.


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Re: [Ql-Users] Quantum Webring

2011-07-11 Thread Dilwyn Jones

Tony Firshman wrote:

Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 11/Jul/11 18:11 | Jul11:

Dilwyn/
Having been a member of the Quantum Webring since it's early days, 
I
am finding myself a bit frustrated with a problem which has crept 
up

in recent times.

Visitors to www.dilwyn.me.uk are sometimes (seemingly randomly)
redirected to the webring hub, which is hugely annoying for 
visitors

who do not want to use the webring.

I searched their forum and asked for help, but got what amounted to 
a

standard reply saying that rthey are unaware of any issues, despite
at least 2 others stating that this happens with their (non-QL)
rings too. The simple answer is to ditch the webring code (bottom 
of the page),

but I'd rather try to resolve it first.

Anyone else have experience fo this and how to fix it?

Ah yes - I had this issue accessing your site as well only last 
week.

Thought it was me!
No idea though what causes it.
I did though use a Google search result.  Maybe Google sometimes 
lists

the webring link rather than your site.

Tony
It also happens if you type the page address manually into the address 
bar of your browser, use a bookmark, etc.


Seems independent of browser type.

Seems to happen with about 50% of accesses to the site, based on my 
own little tests. Maybe the Webring people have quietly introduced a 
change which tries to force people to use the webring at random? It 
never happens (in my tests anyway) if you select my website from the 
webring hub page.


Ideally, when I get time, I'll make sure I'm using the latest webring 
code, but it ain't an easy task to set it up, and this has started 
happening much more recently than the last time I updated the code.


Dilwyn Jones 




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Re: [Ql-Users] Quantum Webring

2011-07-11 Thread Rich Mellor

On 11/07/2011 18:29, Tony Firshman wrote:

Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 11/Jul/11 18:11 | Jul11:

Dilwyn/

Having been a member of the Quantum Webring since it's early days, I am
finding myself a bit frustrated with a problem which has crept up in
recent times.

Visitors to www.dilwyn.me.uk are sometimes (seemingly randomly)
redirected to the webring hub, which is hugely annoying for visitors who
do not want to use the webring.

I searched their forum and asked for help, but got what amounted to a
standard reply saying that rthey are unaware of any issues, despite at
least 2 others stating that this happens with their (non-QL) rings too.

The simple answer is to ditch the webring code (bottom of the page), but
I'd rather try to resolve it first.

Anyone else have experience fo this and how to fix it?

Ah yes - I had this issue accessing your site as well only last week. 
Thought it was me!

No idea though what causes it.
I did though use a Google search result.  Maybe Google sometimes lists 
the webring link rather than your site.


Tony
I have had this issue with the rwapsoftware.co.uk - I could not find out 
what was doing it either - it looks as though someone has hacked the 
webring code to redirect browsers to their website when it appears as 
either the next one in the ring (or other ring link)


In the end I removed the code.

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Re: [Ql-Users] Quantum Webring

2011-07-11 Thread Dilwyn Jones

Rich Mellor wrote:

On 11/07/2011 18:29, Tony Firshman wrote:

Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 11/Jul/11 18:11 | Jul11:

Dilwyn/

Having been a member of the Quantum Webring since it's early days,
I am finding myself a bit frustrated with a problem which has 
crept

up in recent times.

Visitors to www.dilwyn.me.uk are sometimes (seemingly randomly)
redirected to the webring hub, which is hugely annoying for
visitors who do not want to use the webring.

I searched their forum and asked for help, but got what amounted 
to

a standard reply saying that rthey are unaware of any issues,
despite at least 2 others stating that this happens with their
(non-QL) rings too. The simple answer is to ditch the webring code 
(bottom of the

page), but I'd rather try to resolve it first.

Anyone else have experience fo this and how to fix it?

Ah yes - I had this issue accessing your site as well only last 
week.

Thought it was me!
No idea though what causes it.
I did though use a Google search result.  Maybe Google sometimes
lists the webring link rather than your site.

Tony

I have had this issue with the rwapsoftware.co.uk - I could not find
out what was doing it either - it looks as though someone has hacked
the webring code to redirect browsers to their website when it
appears as either the next one in the ring (or other ring link)

In the end I removed the code.
The notion of hacking occurred to me too, but it only ever redirects 
to the Quantum Webring hub in the tests I've done anyway.


Dilwyn Jones 




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Re: [Ql-Users] Quantum Webring

2011-07-11 Thread Jochen Merz

Dilwyn Jones schrieb:

Rich Mellor wrote:

On 11/07/2011 18:29, Tony Firshman wrote:

Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 11/Jul/11 18:11 | Jul11:

Dilwyn/

Having been a member of the Quantum Webring since it's early days,
I am finding myself a bit frustrated with a problem which has crept
up in recent times.

Visitors to www.dilwyn.me.uk are sometimes (seemingly randomly)
redirected to the webring hub, which is hugely annoying for
visitors who do not want to use the webring.

I searched their forum and asked for help, but got what amounted to
a standard reply saying that rthey are unaware of any issues,
despite at least 2 others stating that this happens with their
(non-QL) rings too. The simple answer is to ditch the webring code
(bottom of the
page), but I'd rather try to resolve it first.

Anyone else have experience fo this and how to fix it?


Ah yes - I had this issue accessing your site as well only last week.
Thought it was me!
No idea though what causes it.
I did though use a Google search result. Maybe Google sometimes
lists the webring link rather than your site.

Tony

I have had this issue with the rwapsoftware.co.uk - I could not find
out what was doing it either - it looks as though someone has hacked
the webring code to redirect browsers to their website when it
appears as either the next one in the ring (or other ring link)

In the end I removed the code.

The notion of hacking occurred to me too, but it only ever redirects to
the Quantum Webring hub in the tests I've done anyway.


It also happened to me too when I tried to visit your site - I saw your 
site quickly but I ended on the hub a few seconds later. And even more 
annoying, there is no back navigation to the previous site, i.e. your 
site.


Jochen

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Re: [Ql-Users] Quantum Webring

2011-07-11 Thread Geoff Wicks
To be my usual provocative self, given the small number of active QL 
websites, does the Webring continue to have a purpose?


My experience is that the first time I access Dilwyn's site I am redirected. 
When I immediately access it a second time there is no problem,


Best Wishes,


Geoff

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Re: [Ql-Users] Quantum Webring

2011-07-11 Thread Dilwyn Jones

Geoff Wicks wrote:

To be my usual provocative self, given the small number of active QL
websites, does the Webring continue to have a purpose?

My experience is that the first time I access Dilwyn's site I am
redirected. When I immediately access it a second time there is no
problem,
Best Wishes,


Geoff

I'm tempted to agree with you.

When I get time, I'll try the latest code from Webring, if the problem 
persists I'll remove myself from the ring.


Not all of the sites in the ring are still active - Phoebus's site, 
for example. So maybe it's time Quantum Webring was wound down. I am 
not completely sure who started it - might have been someone like 
Giorgio Garabello in Italy, perhaps?


Dilwyn Jones 




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