Re: [Ql-Users] a VERY expensive QL substitute?

2011-08-09 Thread David Tubbs

At 07:33 09/08/2011 +0100, you wrote:
The text is black on white, so it does not affect anything or am I missing 
something?


The text is only grey and pink, a decidedly faded look.


As for "why your Wiki down beyond adventures" - not sure what you mean here!


Not being a gamer I would avoid branching from such a tree.

Even if I knew how I would not have the temerity to edit another's site.

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Re: [Ql-Users] What's the current (available) version of the PE?

2011-08-09 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Dilwyn Jones wrote:
> BEWARE: the ptr_gen2.02/wman205 combination gives problems on some
> systems (e.g. my MinisQL Aurora) and I had to resort to the ptr_gen
> v2.01/wman 2.01. I have no idea if this is a general issue, or
> confined purely to that one system of mine. Symptons include pointer
> appearing in wrong place on screen or double pointers.

This was a general issue and I fixed a few bugs some months back but
this has not yet been generally released. Completely forgot about it
even. Time... :-(

> ptr_gen203/wman205 (most recent version) works on Minerva, not on AH/JM and 
> am not sure about JS.

JS works, it was the first one with the extended channel block I need.

Marcel

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[Ql-Users] email address down

2011-08-09 Thread Dilwyn Jones
If anyone has tried rto send me an email to my T esco email address 
and not received a reply, it seems Tesco are having some server issues 
and emails to some users are either not being delivered or being 
delivered late.


If you need to contact me this week for any reason, use one of my 
other email addresses or the contact form on my website until the 
weekend at least.


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Re: [Ql-Users] What's the current (available) version of the PE?

2011-08-09 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Oops, the message layout got scrambled a bit going through the list 
works. Just follow the link in the message to the PE page on my 
website and it should (might?) make sense?


Dilwyn Jones

- Original Message - 
From: "Dilwyn Jones" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] What's the current (available) version of the 
PE?





 PTR_GEN WMAN HOT_REXT (English) HOT_REXT (German)
 ptrgen203.zip
 V2.03: 20,904 bytes wman205b.zip
 V2.05b: 19880 bytes hotrext231.zip
 V2.31: 12,768 bytes -
 ptrgen202.zip
 V2.02: 18,388 bytes wman205.zip
 V2.05: 18,886 bytes hotrext229.zip
 V2.29: 11,792 bytes -
 ptrgen201.zip
 V2.01: 18,480 bytes wman201.zip
 V2.01: 19,218 bytes - -


Above is the latest info I have. Took the info from 
http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/pe/index.html


BEWARE: the ptr_gen2.02/wman205 combination gives problems on some 
systems (e.g. my MinisQL Aurora) and I had to resort to the ptr_gen 
v2.01/wman 2.01. I have no idea if this is a general issue, or 
confined purely to that one system of mine. Symptons include pointer 
appearing in wrong place on screen or double pointers.


ptr_gen203/wman205 (most recent version) works on Minerva, not on 
AH/JM and am not sure about JS.


Marcel would probably be the ultimate authority as I think he (and 
possibly Wolfgang Lenerz) updated the PE2.nn series after GD2 and 
WMAN2 came into use.


Dilwyn Jones

- Original Message - 
From: "Norman Dunbar" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 3:49 PM
Subject: [Ql-Users] What's the current (available) version of the 
PE?





Can someone please tell me the current version of the PE and WMAN 
please?


Thanks.
Norm.

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Re: [Ql-Users] What's the current (available) version of the PE?

2011-08-09 Thread Dilwyn Jones
  PTR_GEN WMAN HOT_REXT (English) HOT_REXT (German) 
  ptrgen203.zip
  V2.03: 20,904 bytes wman205b.zip
  V2.05b: 19880 bytes hotrext231.zip
  V2.31: 12,768 bytes - 
  ptrgen202.zip
  V2.02: 18,388 bytes wman205.zip
  V2.05: 18,886 bytes hotrext229.zip
  V2.29: 11,792 bytes - 
  ptrgen201.zip
  V2.01: 18,480 bytes wman201.zip
  V2.01: 19,218 bytes - - 


Above is the latest info I have. Took the info from 
http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/pe/index.html

BEWARE: the ptr_gen2.02/wman205 combination gives problems on some systems 
(e.g. my MinisQL Aurora) and I had to resort to the ptr_gen v2.01/wman 2.01. I 
have no idea if this is a general issue, or confined purely to that one system 
of mine. Symptons include pointer appearing in wrong place on screen or double 
pointers.

ptr_gen203/wman205 (most recent version) works on Minerva, not on AH/JM and am 
not sure about JS.

Marcel would probably be the ultimate authority as I think he (and possibly 
Wolfgang Lenerz) updated the PE2.nn series after GD2 and WMAN2 came into use.

Dilwyn Jones

- Original Message - 
From: "Norman Dunbar" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 3:49 PM
Subject: [Ql-Users] What's the current (available) version of the PE?


> 
> Can someone please tell me the current version of the PE and WMAN please?
> 
> Thanks.
> Norm.
> 
> -- 
> Norman Dunbar
> Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd
> 
> Registered address:
> Thorpe House
> 61 Richardshaw Lane
> Pudsey
> West Yorkshire
> United Kingdom
> LS28 7EL
> 
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Re: [Ql-Users] What's the current (available) version of the PE?

2011-08-09 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message <4e4148e6.5070...@dunbar-it.co.uk>, Norman Dunbar 
 writes


Hi Norman,

Are you planning to be Public Enemy and a Wild Man ...? . :-)


Can someone please tell me the current version of the PE and WMAN please?

Thanks.
Norm.


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Re: [Ql-Users] Prices of QL Books

2011-08-09 Thread Dilwyn Jones

On 09/08/2011 09:41, Norman Dunbar wrote:

On 09/08/11 08:55, Rich Mellor wrote:


There are a couple of cheaper books also listed:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sinclair-QL-Companion-Boris-Allan-/200632533317?pt=Fiction&hash=item2eb6a18145>


Ok, I fell for it! Have you read the blurb beneath the book 
description, basically:


"we rescue books from going to landfill and sell them at "great" 
prices so that you can never not afford to have a book."


Hmm, we get the for free and flog them for an extortionate fee more 
like!


Still, I can afford not to have this particular book!


Cheers,
Norm.


I thought it was funny how one of them says

"Each year we *contribute to several major charities within the UK*, 
both directly and in terms of savings on waste disposal. We are very 
proud of the charities we work with, how our efforts help improve 
the lives of millions, and how we help add valuable research data 
for many grave illnesses."


To meet this, they only have to pay 1p to several collecting tins 
and nick the bags left outside the front doors of charity shops.
Not quite sure how they "help add valuable research data for many 
grave illnesses" unless they are all extremely ill themselves 
maybe...


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Interesting as well that this book was released before the QL.

It was written from pre-release Sinclair notes and as such did not 
tally fully with SuperBASIC when it became available.


I suppose it is a collectable item, but 

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Re: [Ql-Users] a VERY expensive QL substitute?

2011-08-09 Thread Dilwyn Jones

The point is simple - IF YOU WANT THE WIKI TO BE BETTER /
DIFFERENT / HOSTED SOMEWHERE, THEN CHANGE IT !!

I thought that was the whole point of a Wiki... that site users could 
(and should) update it themselves?


If anyone has difficulty accessing some features or whatever, I'm sure 
an email to Rich with the info to go on would make life a lot easier 
for him, e.g. I had to email Rich some pictures because at the time it 
wasn't possible to upload the pictures myself directly (is that still 
the case?)


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Re: [Ql-Users] Prices of QL Books

2011-08-09 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message <4e40d282.8040...@rwapservices.co.uk>, Rich Mellor 
 writes

On 08/08/2011 20:59, Malcolm Cadman wrote:
In message <4e3fe552.6010...@rwapservices.co.uk>, Rich Mellor 
 writes


Hi Rich,

What are example prices being asked?

Has anyone noticed the price of QL books on ebay recently - who are 
these people kidding (or maybe I haven't been asking enough at £2.99 
a book!)



Have a look at:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sinclair-QL-Companion-Boris-Allan-Good-Book-/1

30524493920?pt=Fiction&hash=item1e63ddb860>

for example !



Hi Rich,

That is an 'awesome' price ... who do they think they are kidding?

Check my 'retro' page for sensible prices, like yours too ...

http://www.mcad.demon.co.uk/retro1.htm

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Re: [Ql-Users] Did you spot the mistake?

2011-08-09 Thread Geoff Wicks



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From: "gdgqler" 
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:18 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Did you spot the mistake?



On 9 Aug 2011, at 08:28, François Van Emelen wrote:

It is rather difficult to spot a mistake that is no longer there, isn't 
it.


You just have to compare what is with what was. Simple. And easy.



But a little difficult if you no longer know what was.

It was such a glaring error I was surprised no one had noticed it and had a 
good belly laugh at my expense,


Best wishes,


Geoff

PS Rich - never despair, you get number one spot on my essential QL websites 
section. Mainly because I believe the main function of QL websites is to 
provide information and help.


www.gwicks.net/justwords.htm




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[Ql-Users] What's the current (available) version of the PE?

2011-08-09 Thread Norman Dunbar

Can someone please tell me the current version of the PE and WMAN please?

Thanks.
Norm.

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Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd

Registered address:
Thorpe House
61 Richardshaw Lane
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LS28 7EL

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Re: [Ql-Users] Did you spot the mistake?

2011-08-09 Thread gdgqler

On 9 Aug 2011, at 08:28, François Van Emelen wrote:

> It is rather difficult to spot a mistake that is no longer there, isn't it.

You just have to compare what is with what was. Simple. And easy.

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Re: [Ql-Users] Prices of QL Books

2011-08-09 Thread Rich Mellor

On 09/08/2011 09:41, Norman Dunbar wrote:

On 09/08/11 08:55, Rich Mellor wrote:


There are a couple of cheaper books also listed:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sinclair-QL-Companion-Boris-Allan-/200632533317?pt=Fiction&hash=item2eb6a18145> 



Ok, I fell for it! Have you read the blurb beneath the book 
description, basically:


"we rescue books from going to landfill and sell them at "great" 
prices so that you can never not afford to have a book."


Hmm, we get the for free and flog them for an extortionate fee more like!

Still, I can afford not to have this particular book!


Cheers,
Norm.


I thought it was funny how one of them says

"Each year we *contribute to several major charities within the UK*, 
both directly and in terms of savings on waste disposal. We are very 
proud of the charities we work with, how our efforts help improve the 
lives of millions, and how we help add valuable research data for many 
grave illnesses."


To meet this, they only have to pay 1p to several collecting tins and 
nick the bags left outside the front doors of charity shops.
Not quite sure how they "help add valuable research data for many grave 
illnesses" unless they are all extremely ill themselves maybe...


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Re: [Ql-Users] a VERY expensive QL substitute?

2011-08-09 Thread Rich Mellor

On 09/08/2011 10:18, peet vanpeebles wrote:

-- On Tue, 9/8/11, Rich Mellor  wrote:


From: Rich Mellor
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] a VERY expensive QL substitute?
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Date: Tuesday, 9 August, 2011, 7:33
On 09/08/2011 00:38, David Tubbs
wrote:

Mind you, there was some VERY expensive bits of

kit for the QL back in the hey day - see

http://www.rwapadventures.com/ql_wiki/index.php?title=Quest%20Automation%20Ltd
--

I followed your link.
Why does the page have to look like it has faded in

the sun, I know my eyes are not what they were being on the
cusp of becoming an octogenarian.

Nor have I ever understood why your Wiki down beyond

adventures.

DT

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Why faded ? Not sure what you mean - that is someone's
design for the site - I like it - but if you have another
design you would prefer for the Wiki, then please feel free
to offer a suggestion (although you will need to skin the
site as I don't have time).  I was just grateful that
someone was willing and had the time to propose a design
which looks nice.

The text is black on white, so it does not affect anything
or am I missing something?

As for "why your Wiki down beyond adventures" - not sure
what you mean here!
If you mean why it is hosted on www.rwapadventures.com -
that's simple - I don't want to have to pay for yet another
domain name.

I am fed up with people criticising the Wiki - all I ever
hear is back handed comments about 'but there is no
information about ' or 'why don't you include this or
this'.

Let's face it - the Wiki is supposed to be for the whole QL
community - ideally it would have its own domain (maybe
sinclairql.com or similar) and lots of people would be
adding and updating information on the Wiki

As it stands about 95% of the information has been added by
me, maybe 3% by Dilwyn and 2% by Urs Koenig

It would seem the QL community is not bothered about trying
to improve the amount of information about the QL on the
web.

People need to contribute - this was just a project I
started to try and address the critics of the QL, who say
openly on the web that there were no games, it was only a
business machine, and that it died in the 80s.

The point is simple - IF YOU WANT THE WIKI TO BE BETTER /
DIFFERENT / HOSTED SOMEWHERE, THEN CHANGE IT !!

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"As it stands about 95% of the information has been added by
me, maybe 3% by Dilwyn and 2% by Urs Koenig"


And about 0.1% from me :p

I think it's a great site and a valuable resource too. Should be able to add in 
the video links from youtube too :)

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Oops - yes sorry I overlooked your own valuable contribution

Video links can be added from Youtube - just have a look at: 
http://www.rwapadventures.com/ql_wiki/index.php?title=E.V.A&lang=en

You might recognise something on that page...

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Re: [Ql-Users] a VERY expensive QL substitute?

2011-08-09 Thread peet vanpeebles
-- On Tue, 9/8/11, Rich Mellor  wrote:

> From: Rich Mellor 
> Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] a VERY expensive QL substitute?
> To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
> Date: Tuesday, 9 August, 2011, 7:33
> On 09/08/2011 00:38, David Tubbs
> wrote:
> > 
> >> 
> >> Mind you, there was some VERY expensive bits of
> kit for the QL back in the hey day - see
> >> 
> >> http://www.rwapadventures.com/ql_wiki/index.php?title=Quest%20Automation%20Ltd
> 
> >> 
> >> -- 
> > 
> > I followed your link.
> > Why does the page have to look like it has faded in
> the sun, I know my eyes are not what they were being on the
> cusp of becoming an octogenarian.
> > 
> > Nor have I ever understood why your Wiki down beyond
> adventures.
> > 
> > DT
> > 
> > ___
> > QL-Users Mailing List
> > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
> > 
> > 
> Why faded ? Not sure what you mean - that is someone's
> design for the site - I like it - but if you have another
> design you would prefer for the Wiki, then please feel free
> to offer a suggestion (although you will need to skin the
> site as I don't have time).  I was just grateful that
> someone was willing and had the time to propose a design
> which looks nice.
> 
> The text is black on white, so it does not affect anything
> or am I missing something?
> 
> As for "why your Wiki down beyond adventures" - not sure
> what you mean here!
> If you mean why it is hosted on www.rwapadventures.com -
> that's simple - I don't want to have to pay for yet another
> domain name.
> 
> I am fed up with people criticising the Wiki - all I ever
> hear is back handed comments about 'but there is no
> information about ' or 'why don't you include this or
> this'.
> 
> Let's face it - the Wiki is supposed to be for the whole QL
> community - ideally it would have its own domain (maybe
> sinclairql.com or similar) and lots of people would be
> adding and updating information on the Wiki
> 
> As it stands about 95% of the information has been added by
> me, maybe 3% by Dilwyn and 2% by Urs Koenig
> 
> It would seem the QL community is not bothered about trying
> to improve the amount of information about the QL on the
> web.
> 
> People need to contribute - this was just a project I
> started to try and address the critics of the QL, who say
> openly on the web that there were no games, it was only a
> business machine, and that it died in the 80s.
> 
> The point is simple - IF YOU WANT THE WIKI TO BE BETTER /
> DIFFERENT / HOSTED SOMEWHERE, THEN CHANGE IT !!
> 
> -- Rich Mellor
> RWAP Services
> Specialist Enuuk Auction Programming Services
> 
> www.rwapservices.co.uk
> 
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"As it stands about 95% of the information has been added by
me, maybe 3% by Dilwyn and 2% by Urs Koenig" 


And about 0.1% from me :p

I think it's a great site and a valuable resource too. Should be able to add in 
the video links from youtube too :)

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Re: [Ql-Users] Prices of QL Books

2011-08-09 Thread Norman Dunbar

On 09/08/11 08:55, Rich Mellor wrote:


There are a couple of cheaper books also listed:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sinclair-QL-Companion-Boris-Allan-/200632533317?pt=Fiction&hash=item2eb6a18145>


Ok, I fell for it! Have you read the blurb beneath the book description, 
basically:


"we rescue books from going to landfill and sell them at "great" prices 
so that you can never not afford to have a book."


Hmm, we get the for free and flog them for an extortionate fee more like!

Still, I can afford not to have this particular book!


Cheers,
Norm.

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Re: [Ql-Users] Prices of QL Books+

2011-08-09 Thread Lee Privett
They don't even bother with a picture! Probably because of the glare
and reflection from the gold leaf they are wrapped in.



Regards, 
Lee Privett

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http://www.QUANTA.org.uk




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From: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com
[mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Rich Mellor
Sent: 09 August 2011 08:55
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Prices of QL Books

On 09/08/2011 08:49, Norman Dunbar wrote:
> On 09/08/11 08:46, Norman Dunbar wrote:
>> OUCH! £82.13 for a QL book. When you read the small print, it's an
ex 
>> library book as well. Someone is taking the p*ss!
>
> It seems everyone may be taking the p*ss:
>
>
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/0273021877/ref=dp_olp_us
> ed?ie=UTF8&condition=used>
>
>
> 3 used copies of the same book, £55.60, £79.43 or £80.23 - take your

> pick.
>
> Or get it from Rich for £4.00 ;-)
>
> Cheers,
> Norm.
There are a couple of cheaper books also listed:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sinclair-QL-Companion-Boris-Allan-/2006
32533317?pt=Fiction&hash=item2eb6a18145>

and

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Inside-Sinclair-QL-Introductor-Diane-Ro
gers-/200632962623?pt=Fiction&hash=item2eb6a80e3f>



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Re: [Ql-Users] Prices of QL Books

2011-08-09 Thread Rich Mellor

On 09/08/2011 08:49, Norman Dunbar wrote:

On 09/08/11 08:46, Norman Dunbar wrote:

OUCH! £82.13 for a QL book. When you read the small print, it's an ex
library book as well. Someone is taking the p*ss!


It seems everyone may be taking the p*ss:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/0273021877/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used> 



3 used copies of the same book, £55.60, £79.43 or £80.23 - take your 
pick.


Or get it from Rich for £4.00 ;-)

Cheers,
Norm.

There are a couple of cheaper books also listed:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sinclair-QL-Companion-Boris-Allan-/200632533317?pt=Fiction&hash=item2eb6a18145>

and

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Inside-Sinclair-QL-Introductor-Diane-Rogers-/200632962623?pt=Fiction&hash=item2eb6a80e3f>



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Re: [Ql-Users] Prices of QL Books

2011-08-09 Thread Norman Dunbar

On 09/08/11 08:46, Norman Dunbar wrote:

OUCH! £82.13 for a QL book. When you read the small print, it's an ex
library book as well. Someone is taking the p*ss!


It seems everyone may be taking the p*ss:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/0273021877/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used>

3 used copies of the same book, £55.60, £79.43 or £80.23 - take your pick.

Or get it from Rich for £4.00 ;-)

Cheers,
Norm.
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Re: [Ql-Users] Prices of QL Books

2011-08-09 Thread Norman Dunbar

On 09/08/11 07:24, Rich Mellor wrote:


Have a look at:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sinclair-QL-Companion-Boris-Allan-Good-Book-/130524493920?pt=Fiction&hash=item1e63ddb860>


OUCH! £82.13 for a QL book. When you read the small print, it's an ex 
library book as well. Someone is taking the p*ss!



Cheers,
Norm.

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Re: [Ql-Users] Did you spot the mistake?

2011-08-09 Thread François Van Emelen

Op 8/08/2011 14:17, Geoff Wicks schreef:

Did you spot the mistake?





Now the mistake. On the first day of the Just Words! QL News page there was a 
glaring error in the headline of the second news item. I quickly corrected it 
the second day. Can anyone tell me what it was?

Best Wishes,


Geoff

www.gwicks.net/justwords.htm
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It is rather difficult to spot a mistake that is no longer there, isn't it.

Have a fine day.

François Van Emelen


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