Re: [Ql-Users] Ranting: A Story of two Operating Systems

2011-02-24 Thread Adrian Ives
[mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Marcel Kilgus Sent: 24 February 2011 18:54 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Ranting: A Story of two Operating Systems Adrian Ives wrote: > It's easier said than done, though. You can't exactly whip the JS ROMs > out of

Re: [Ql-Users] Ranting: A Story of two Operating Systems

2011-02-24 Thread Dave Park
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Marcel Kilgus wrote: > Adrian Ives wrote: > > It's easier said than done, though. You can't exactly whip the JS ROMs > out > > of a QL and slap in SMSQ. > > SMSQ? I'm talking Minerva here... and you certainly can whip out a JS > ROM and put Minerva in there ;) I'v

Re: [Ql-Users] Ranting: A Story of two Operating Systems

2011-02-24 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Adrian Ives wrote: > It's easier said than done, though. You can't exactly whip the JS ROMs out > of a QL and slap in SMSQ. SMSQ? I'm talking Minerva here... and you certainly can whip out a JS ROM and put Minerva in there ;) I've never owned a machine capable of running SMSQ/E before creating QPC

Re: [Ql-Users] Ranting: A Story of two Operating Systems

2011-02-24 Thread Adrian Ives
.. the 2000s ... the 2010s ... and beyond! Sounds like a job for Dave Park to me. :) Adrian -Original Message- From: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com [mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Marcel Kilgus Sent: 24 February 2011 17:02 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Use

Re: [Ql-Users] Ranting: A Story of two Operating Systems

2011-02-24 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Dilwyn Jones wrote: > Authors of QL software like me use JM and JS ROMs to test software for > compatibility. Probably the only thing I use them for, though. Yeah, but that's something you didn't have to do if people would at least be willing to enter the 90s, QL wise ;) I had Minerva in all my QL

Re: [Ql-Users] Ranting: A Story of two Operating Systems

2011-02-23 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Actually, Minerva was a damn good OS, you'll probably have much less trouble there than with any QDOS version. Seeing that Minerva is free now I cannot think of a single reason why people even with old black boxes still use QDOS (nostalgia excluded). Marcel Authors of QL software like me use JM

Re: [Ql-Users] Ranting: A Story of two Operating Systems

2011-02-23 Thread Dave Park
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 6:33 AM, Tony Firshman wrote: > The one that rescued a vast number of QLs I repaired was his ram check and > error display. The ram check is writing rom images into ram, and reading > back. He seeded this. Why? Well if a zero is written to a dead ram bit, > zero is *alw

Re: [Ql-Users] Ranting: A Story of two Operating Systems

2011-02-23 Thread Adrian Ives
Adrian -Original Message- From: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com [mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Marcel Kilgus Sent: 23 February 2011 12:21 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Ranting: A Story of two Operating Systems Where does it say it should work under

Re: [Ql-Users] Ranting: A Story of two Operating Systems

2011-02-23 Thread Tony Firshman
Marcel Kilgus wrote, on 23/Feb/11 12:21 | Feb23: Adrian Ives wrote: But what I would really like is some kind of document that sets out a list of things that fall in the category: "This should work under QDOS, it says it should, but it doesn't … but we went ahead and fixed it in SMSQ" Where do

Re: [Ql-Users] Ranting: A Story of two Operating Systems

2011-02-23 Thread Malcolm Lear
52 AM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Ranting: A Story of two Operating Systems On 23 Feb 2011, at 11:45, Rich Mellor wrote: > > The difference in MOD and DIV is mentioned in the SBASIC/SuperBASIC Reference Manual (plug) > > - And where exactly can you get hold of this Manua

Re: [Ql-Users] Ranting: A Story of two Operating Systems

2011-02-23 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Adrian Ives wrote: > But what I would really like is some kind of document that sets out a list > of things that fall in the category: "This should work under QDOS, it says > it should, but it doesn't … but we went ahead and fixed it in SMSQ" Where does it say it should work under QDOS? I guess th

Re: [Ql-Users] Ranting: A Story of two Operating Systems

2011-02-23 Thread Malcolm Lear
On 23/02/2011 11:45, Rich Mellor wrote: On 23/02/2011 11:36, gdgqler wrote: On 23 Feb 2011, at 11:27, Adrian Ives wrote: Now I have probably missed some important piece of documentation somewhere that says you're not allowed to do trap 1, mt.cjob in a scheduler loop task under QDOS, but you

Re: [Ql-Users] Ranting: A Story of two Operating Systems

2011-02-23 Thread Lee Privett
Oh dear you fell for Rich's QDOS trap 2, caugt mt.cm job look @ RWap Site loop Lee - Back to the QL- - Original Message - From: gdgqler To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Ranting: A Story of two Operating Sy

Re: [Ql-Users] Ranting: A Story of two Operating Systems

2011-02-23 Thread Rich Mellor
On 23/02/2011 11:52, gdgqler wrote: On 23 Feb 2011, at 11:45, Rich Mellor wrote: The difference in MOD and DIV is mentioned in the SBASIC/SuperBASIC Reference Manual (plug) - And where exactly can you get hold of this Manual? (Attempting to unplug to let it flow). It seems a must. George _

Re: [Ql-Users] Ranting: A Story of two Operating Systems

2011-02-23 Thread gdgqler
On 23 Feb 2011, at 11:45, Rich Mellor wrote: > > The difference in MOD and DIV is mentioned in the SBASIC/SuperBASIC Reference > Manual (plug) > > - And where exactly can you get hold of this Manual? (Attempting to unplug to let it flow). It seems a must. George

Re: [Ql-Users] Ranting: A Story of two Operating Systems

2011-02-23 Thread Rich Mellor
On 23/02/2011 11:36, gdgqler wrote: On 23 Feb 2011, at 11:27, Adrian Ives wrote: Now I have probably missed some important piece of documentation somewhere that says you're not allowed to do trap 1, mt.cjob in a scheduler loop task under QDOS, but you are allowed to in SMSQ. The QDOS documenta

Re: [Ql-Users] Ranting: A Story of two Operating Systems

2011-02-23 Thread gdgqler
On 23 Feb 2011, at 11:27, Adrian Ives wrote: > > Now I have probably missed some important piece of documentation somewhere > that says you're not allowed to do trap 1, mt.cjob in a scheduler loop task > under QDOS, but you are allowed to in SMSQ. The QDOS documentation that I > have doesn't sa

[Ql-Users] Ranting: A Story of two Operating Systems

2011-02-23 Thread Adrian Ives
So, in order to allow users to RESPR additional extensions after loading the Ser-USB driver, I changed the mechanism for the way in which it starts its Queue Manager task. It was quite elegant, really: setting a flag bit the first time that Queue Manager services were needed to be picked up later b