Re: [Ql-Users] Trump Card questions

2011-02-21 Thread Malcolm Lear
Hi Phill, I produced a couple of Trump card clones in the 80's and still have the PCB designs at hand, so drawing up a schematic will not be difficult. If you can mail me the PLD dumps I'll label and comment the equations for you. I did this myself, but cannot locate the files any more.

Re: [Ql-Users] Trump Card questions

2011-02-21 Thread Phill Harvey-Smith
Malcolm Lear wrote: Hi Phill, I produced a couple of Trump card clones in the 80's and still have the PCB designs at hand, so drawing up a schematic will not be difficult. Excellent :) If you can mail me the PLD dumps I'll label and comment the equations for you. I did this

Re: [Ql-Users] Trump Card questions

2011-02-21 Thread Malcolm Lear
Ah, that brings all the memories back. I'm sure the chips were protected and I had to switch all combinations of input to deduce the equations. The good news is that I can lay my hands on a board I manufactured and read back the equations from that. Unfortunately the earliest I can do that is

Re: [Ql-Users] Trump Card questions

2011-02-21 Thread Phill Harvey-Smith
Malcolm Lear wrote: Ah, that brings all the memories back. I'm sure the chips were protected and I had to switch all combinations of input to deduce the equations. I did wonder about that :) :) I may have a go at hooking them up to an AVR and getting it to scan and record for me :) :) The

Re: [Ql-Users] Trump Card questions

2011-02-21 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Phill Harvey-Smith wrote: Indeed, I have worked out this much, however I think the RAM test takes place before this point so will hit the mirrored rom and only see 640K :( So there must be something else afoot :) RAM test is pretty much the first thing the OS does, long before initializing the

Re: [Ql-Users] Trump Card questions

2011-02-21 Thread Malcolm Lear
Since the RAM on a standard QL was only ever intended to extend up to $B, would the test ever go beyond that. Cheers Malcolm On 21/02/2011 14:50, Phill Harvey-Smith wrote: Malcolm Lear wrote: Ah, that brings all the memories back. I'm sure the chips were protected and I had to switch

Re: [Ql-Users] Trump Card questions

2011-02-21 Thread Phill Harvey-Smith
Malcolm Lear wrote: Since the RAM on a standard QL was only ever intended to extend up to $B, would the test ever go beyond that. Yep it does, loop only stops when it finds a location where it gets a different value back than it wrote. Cheers. Phill.

Re: [Ql-Users] Trump Card questions

2011-02-21 Thread Phill Harvey-Smith
Marcel Kilgus wrote: Phill Harvey-Smith wrote: Indeed, I have worked out this much, however I think the RAM test takes place before this point so will hit the mirrored rom and only see 640K :( So there must be something else afoot :) RAM test is pretty much the first thing the OS does, long