- Original Message -
From: "Wolfgang Lenerz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Pirates and mad sheep
>
> On 9 Nov 2002, at 2:48, dndsystems1 wrote:
> (...)
> > Yes I wa
On 9 Nov 2002, at 2:48, dndsystems1 wrote:
(...)
> Yes I wanted a private corrispondnce with him without outside
> influence. My question: Do you personally see any way to build in more
> flexibility to the licence to accomodate the programmers that do not
> like vatious parts of it.
Just what ex
- Original Message -
From: "Roy Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Pirates and mad sheep
In message <005201c2864a$e385e4e0$0d5c933e@tony>, TonyTebby
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]&
- Original Message -
From: "Jochen Merz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Pirates and mad sheep
>
> > > Dennis Smith states that "We have been producing the Q60 for
ov
On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote:
> Thanks, but this begs the question - have I been acting in
> accordance with these reassurances?
Put it this way; every time an issue is raised, you have worked diligently
to resolve it. Sometimes I question your methods, but your results are
usuall
On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote:
> Unfortunetely, things aren't as clearcut as that.
>
> 1 - Remember that a licence is a licence to USE...
And First Sale Doctrine (international law) gives a right to sell the
floppy, manuals, leaflets, EPROMs or whatever.
> 2 - There is a huge diff
On 8 Nov 2002, at 16:00, Dave P wrote:
> Well, that's illegal in every European country. Once someone owns a
> license to software, they're free to sell it to whomsoever they wish under
> the first sale doctrine. You cannot restrict someone's right to sell
> something they own, even by license,
On 8 Nov 2002, at 17:15, Dave P wrote:
(...)
> Now that we've had two or three different problems with the license, and
> Wolfgang has given various reassurances (which has been a positive
> experience, Wolfgang!),
Thanks, but this begs the question - have I been acting in
accordance with th
??? 8/11/2002 12:15:40 ??, ?/? Dave P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ??:
>
>
>
>On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Jochen Merz wrote:
>
>> > A trader has the same right to sell an item they own as any private
>> > individual.
>>
>> Indeed. Provided, he actually owns it at that time.
>> But nobody questioned all this..
On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Marcel Kilgus wrote:
> Dave P wrote:
> > Well, that's illegal in every European country. Once someone owns a
> > license to software, they're free to sell it to whomsoever they wish under
> > the first sale doctrine.
>
> I don't think anybody suggested that this is not the c
On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Jochen Merz wrote:
> > A trader has the same right to sell an item they own as any private
> > individual.
>
> Indeed. Provided, he actually owns it at that time.
> But nobody questioned all this... :-)
Not even me. I think it is clear now that D&D is selling unlicensed
cop
Dave P wrote:
> Well, that's illegal in every European country. Once someone owns a
> license to software, they're free to sell it to whomsoever they wish under
> the first sale doctrine.
I don't think anybody suggested that this is not the case.
Marcel
Hi Dave,
> A trader has the sdame right to sell an item they own as any private
> individual.
Indeed. Provided, he actually owns it at that time.
But nobody questioned all this... :-)
Jochen
On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Jochen Merz wrote:
> And anyway, you can't sell SMSQ/E without being a reseller and promise
> to pay later. That's wrong, and this is why I keep on asking that you
> sort it out with Wolfgang.
Well, that's illegal in every European country. Once someone owns a
license to so
> > Tony's statements have backed up many of the things that we have
> been saying over the last few months and should really blow the cobwebs
> away from those who doubted. Still, given the way some people seem to
> react, I suppose there will be those who do not believe him either.
Well, lookin
> > Dennis Smith states that "We have been producing the Q60 for over a
> year" > and "Licence money has been paid" - who was this licence money
> paid to? I > certainly did not get it.
> Jochen, and at year end you can have some more if I can find out what
> the starting date of this new licence
> More in sorrow.
>
> I accept the blame for writing QDOS and the consequences, but what
> have Wolgang Lenerz, Jochen Merz and others done to merit the
> treatment they are getting - they deserve to keep their fingers.
>
> Tony Tebby
Thanks for stepping in on this matter, Tony, and it is good to
Dave P writes:
<>
> Of course, now he's going to get a bunch of emails from his devotees
> telling him how wonderful he is. I really should get started on mine, so I
> have to go now.
<>
I already sent mine. Looking forward to read yours ;)
Per
In message <005201c2864a$e385e4e0$0d5c933e@tony>, TonyTebby
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
"Confidential in as much as you will not pass information on to any other
interested party, this way I can speak freely and as I want. Don't tell
Wolfgang, Marcel, Jochen etc. etc. On my part I must tell Der
- Original Message -
From: "TonyTebby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 10:45 AM
Subject: [ql-users] Pirates and mad sheep
You sent this to the Supanet address so it is auto deleted,
there is the fault, see other em
In article <005201c2864a$e385e4e0$0d5c933e@tony>, TonyTebby
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>While walking on the fells, I came across a sheep with its horns entangled in a
>wire fence. With great difficulty I managed to free it and, by way of reward for
>saving it from a certain, lingering death, i
??? 7/11/2002 2:26:05 ??, ?/? Marcel Kilgus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ??:
>Quick, somebody give that man some crayons!
>
Nah he won't like them unless they have an ARM processor and embedded Linux in
them ;-)
Phoebus
Dave P wrote:
> Some top guy at Microsoft did this on stage at a developers conference,
> and came off sounding a bit loony!
Ah, the ape. I actually saw that one.
> Nah. I'm more famous to more people than TT, and I really crave the
> anonymity he has. Never be in the music business :/
Right. I
>
> I hope we can continue to build on this glorious system, to continue to
> improve it to meet our changing needs/demands, and to strive towards that
> elusive system that allows us to do what each of us wants, the way we want.
> QL-users should realise that we are in a unique position to have s
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Marcel Kilgus wrote:
> > I was waiting for him to go to Eindhoven and jump up and down on
> > stage screaming "Developers! Developers! Developers!" :o)
>
> Is this some obscure reference I don't get? A joke? Or just
> extraordinary sense?
Some top guy at Microsoft did this
TonyTebby writes:
<>
Well, I think this sorts the sheep from the goats ;)
Id like to take this opportunity to thank Tony Tebby, and also many others,
some of whom he has mentioned in his mail, for all you have done for
QL-users! Id like to assure you that your ingenuity, time and effort has
give
Dave P wrote:
> I don't want common sense. I want extraordinary sense!
I'd already be satisfied with common sense after the mails within the
last few days. Makes me stop wanting to bang my head against the wall.
> I was waiting for him to go to Eindhoven and jump up and down on
> stage screaming
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Marcel Kilgus wrote:
> May common sense return to the land of the sheep,
Baa!
I don't want common sense. I want extraordinary sense!
Yes, TT surely clarified the situation. I read it in my mind's ear in a
God-like voice. I was waiting for him to go to Eindhoven and jump u
TonyTebby wrote:
> [much]
Thanks a lot for clarifying the issue. I think this was really
necessary.
May common sense return to the land of the sheep,
Marcel
> Tony Tebby wrote:
(rest of message clipped).
I just hope that this put some doubts to rest. And again I appeal to
D&D - let's get on with it, correct the situation, it isn't too late yet.
Wolfgang
-
www.wlenerz.com
Tony Tebby wrote:
> Dennis Smith states that "We have been producing the Q60 for over a
> year" and "Licence money has been paid" - who was this licence money
> paid to? I certainly did not get it.
As one of the punters who paid D&D Systems an extra 30ukp to supply
SMSQ/E with my Q60, I am disma
While walking on the fells, I came across a sheep with its horns entangled
in a wire fence. With great difficulty I managed to free it and, by way of
reward for saving it from a certain, lingering death, it tried to take my
fingers off.
More about mad sheep and fingers later. This note is
32 matches
Mail list logo
