Re: [ql-users] Eidersoft Drawing Off_ICE
- Original Message - From: Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Eidersoft Drawing Off_ICE SNIP This might make a nice little Quanta group project perhaps - form a group of interested members to chase up older software? Remember this list is not a Quanta list and Quanta does not monitor it. As far as I know there are only two of us on the Quanta committee who subscribe to it. Nevertheless this is an interesting proposal for Quanta, particularly if their might be a possibility of buying rights to a program, (and maybe upgrading to GD2 colours.) Can I suggest the people who are interested in this project email one another privately and formulate some more concrete proposals, as I, for one, am uncertain exactly what people are proposing. Then make a formal proposition to Quanta with a request for funding, if necessary. Follow this with a short article for the Quanta Magazine so that members can see the old girl still has a purpose. Geoff Wicks PS Don't forget there are ways of tracing people who have disappeared, particularly if they have an unusual name. For example, I think you will find the QLiberator missing link is living in Uxbridge. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Eidersoft Drawing Off_ICE/QL2004
- Original Message - From: Wolfgang Lenerz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Eidersoft Drawing Off_ICE/QL2004 On 15 Jul 2004 at 21:15, gwicks wrote: Two points for general discussion: 1) How would you like to do this? As a part of the activity program or as forum item? Any which way. If the former who would like to present it? Not me That is one of the reasons I posed the question. As far as I know none of the people who have raised this issue so far will be at QL2004. If they can't make, they should think of other possibilities. I.e. we hope to have an internet connection on the day, or they could send a video, DVD etc. Bear in mind that if this item is on the agenda, there is a lot of work for someone after the event. I appreaciate that there will be a lot of work to contact the copyright owners but why is there a lot of work to do because the item is on the agenda? What's the point of having something on an agenda if afterwards nothing happens? This list has more than its fair share of fantasies. Think back a year and QL2004 was just a discussion topic that was going nowhere and went nowhere for about 6 months. I had to behave like an authoritarian dictator to get things off the ground. Now people are working hard on the idea and in this connection Sin-QL-Air deserve special praise. 2) The activity program is slowly filling up, although one or two items on it are provisional. If it gets too full would you prefer a strict limit on activities or an attempt to create a number of separate interest groups? Is there really so much to do/talk about? This will be a very interesting meeting, then. Could some talks be held concomitantly? I have no idea what the attendance will be like, but it looks as though most of the movers and shakers of the QL community will be present. Remember most QL development is now done in North Europe and Eindhoven is ideally placed for this. I would like us to use QL2004 as a unique opportunity to meet together, have a morale boost and plan for the future. As for the program, think about all the things you have expressed an interest in or which concerns things you have helped to develop. On the practical side I am not sure what time and resources are necessary for each activity item, but at the beginning of September I shall be in touch with all presenters and then shall try to draw up a more detailed program. Best Wishes, Geoff Wicks http://members.lycos.co.uk/geoffwicks/ql2004.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Beeps in Archive
I have done as you suggested with some results: LPRINTing Chr(0)+Chr(7) from Archive to my Mannesman Tally MT80+ printer does produce a sound similar to that produced when the printer is out of paper. The machine code routine from Tony also produces a note from the 'Speaker' but the duration is short and it is hard to hear as the speaker is mounted inside a Pandora case. Also, when I tried to put the routine call into a loop to get it to send a number of beeps of differing pitches(a tune?), the QL locks up after about three loops! Is there some incompatibility between it and SMSQ? I am using Archive from Xchange version 3.90L as obtained from the Quanta Library. The installation of the code does work if added to the starting TSL code in archive. Any more bright suggestions from anyone or do I kick it into touch (oops off topic! ) and revert to Dilwyn's printer beep? Regards, John Gilpin. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Eidersoft Drawing Off_ICE
On 16 Jul 2004 at 20:20, gwicks wrote: (...) Nevertheless this is an interesting proposal for Quanta, particularly if their might be a possibility of buying rights to a program, (and maybe upgrading to GD2 colours.) Would anybody really be prepared to pay for that kind of old software? (...) PS Don't forget there are ways of tracing people who have disappeared, particularly if they have an unusual name. For example, I think you will find the QLiberator missing link is living in Uxbridge. Oh, c'me on, now you've either said too much or too little - let's have more details. Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Eidersoft Drawing Off_ICE/QL2004
On 16 Jul 2004 at 20:40, gwicks wrote: (...) Not me That is one of the reasons I posed the question. As far as I know none of the people who have raised this issue so far will be at QL2004. Yes, well, experience tells me that if you stick your neck out too far, you'll be stuck with the job. I'm quite willing to debate the question (perhaps I'd even have an idea or two) but I wouldn't want to be the one to actuallt do the job (at least I'm honest about it...). If they can't make, they should think of other possibilities. I.e. we hope to have an internet connection on the day, or they could send a video, DVD etc. Or just air their ideas here first. (...) What's the point of having something on an agenda if afterwards nothing happens? This list has more than its fair share of fantasies. I misread that at first and read fanatics. How true. Think back a year and QL2004 was just a discussion topic that was going nowhere and went nowhere for about 6 months. I had to behave like an authoritarian dictator (trying out my goosesteps right now) to get things off the ground. Now people are working hard on the idea and in this connection Sin-QL-Air deserve special praise. And you, too!! So there will actually be some sort of follow up on what is decided during that meeting. I'm impressed (and, for once, not being sarcastic!). (...) I have no idea what the attendance will be like, but it looks as though most of the movers and shakers of the QL community will be present. There will probably come a time when there are nothing but movers and shakers left. Will that be good or bad? Remember most QL development is now done in North Europe and Eindhoven is ideally placed for this. I would like us to use QL2004 as a unique opportunity to meet together, have a morale boost and plan for the future. Hooray! As for the program, think about all the things you have expressed an interest in or which concerns things you have helped to develop. Unfortuantely, as far as the interest is concerned, in come the fantasies you talked about earlier It'll be nice to see what is doable and what not. On the practical side I am not sure what time and resources are necessary for each activity item, but at the beginning of September I shall be in touch with all presenters and then shall try to draw up a more detailed program. OK, here I want to go on record and thank you for all of the work you are doing for that. If QL2004 is a success, it'll be largely because of your investment! ... and if it isn't, it'll be because of the general apathy lately prevalent in our circles... Best Wishes, Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] how to get QL2K
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 19:24:27 +0200, Wolfgang Lenerz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16 Jul 2004 at 20:53, Timothy Swenson wrote: The question is, exactly what CGYWN packages need to be downloaded for UQLX-win32. I've heard Base and X but the packages listed on the CGWYN web sites don't list base or X but list a bunch that have X in them. If anyone figures it out, let me know as I want to try UQLX-win32. I'm now playing with UQLX for Linux. Tim Swenson Try to download the basic cygwin installer (which already has 'base' selected and then the 'X' package (Not development although they're useful to have). I will have the right names for you sometime this afternoon. Speaking from memory, you need the general basic package and then the Xwindows package. If in doubt and if you have a braoadband connecton where you don't pay by the hour or megabyte, just download all of it. I did try this out some months ago. Kudos to R Zidlicky for having made UQLX, I just found it difficult to revert to what is basically a basic QL, so I lost interest and threw everything out again. It's definitely not 'basic' It does have TCP/IP built in and now (due to the good work of R.Z and S.G) also sound (QLSSS) Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] how to get QL2K
Cygwin provides a Unix environment under Windows, doesn't it? [Sorry for this question, but feel i have to to break out ...] ... puuh for a non-Unix guy this is a nightmare - my computer is already messed up with windows - should I really put that kind of Cygwin stuff on top of it?: install package XXX to enable program YYY to extract package QQQ that supports the program UGLY to work ugly, provided you have the ZZZ extention... that maybe amazing, depending on the particular learning interest of a particular user. I rather reanimate the weak batteries of my ole Win98 notebook and run QLAY on it furthermore ;-) Because after all I do not want more than just to try out some SuperBasic programs... or maybe 68K mc. The alternative would be to install a linux version. Maybe I will try this later. Regards, Michael - Original Message - From: Phoebus R. Dokos ( . ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] how to get QL2K On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 19:24:27 +0200, Wolfgang Lenerz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16 Jul 2004 at 20:53, Timothy Swenson wrote: The question is, exactly what CGYWN packages need to be downloaded for UQLX-win32. I've heard Base and X but the packages listed on the CGWYN web sites don't list base or X but list a bunch that have X in them. If anyone figures it out, let me know as I want to try UQLX-win32. I'm now playing with UQLX for Linux. Tim Swenson Try to download the basic cygwin installer (which already has 'base' selected and then the 'X' package (Not development although they're useful to have). I will have the right names for you sometime this afternoon. Speaking from memory, you need the general basic package and then the Xwindows package. If in doubt and if you have a braoadband connecton where you don't pay by the hour or megabyte, just download all of it. I did try this out some months ago. Kudos to R Zidlicky for having made UQLX, I just found it difficult to revert to what is basically a basic QL, so I lost interest and threw everything out again. It's definitely not 'basic' It does have TCP/IP built in and now (due to the good work of R.Z and S.G) also sound (QLSSS) Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] how to get QL2K
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 15:43:28 -0400, Phoebus R. Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two basic packages needed: Base and X11 Via the installer, changed the Base and X11 from Default to Install and that's all you need. Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
