Re: [ql-users] was Turbo, now A4 A5
- Original Message - From: David Tubbs To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Turbo Thanks for the apology! A4 A5 There is a troglodyte, living far out in the desert, running a solar powered MDV only 128 QL. He does NOT have access to the Internet. Is there anyone else that does not have a phone line and a PC, or access to the web from the office, a library or an Internet caff ? If these resources are not utilised that does not mean they are unavailable. This year Roy Wood and I are helping a man in his late 70's with a problem. He is a black box user who has used nothing more than Quill for many years. He now wants his 1/3rd lifetime's work converted to PC format to be available to his family. To do this he has bought a PC, QPC2, QPC Print, QL2PC Transfer and possibly also the Qmenu extensions. I recently spent 45 minutes on the phone with him giving a telephone tutorial. He employs a tutor to teach him how to use a PC, but has not yet mastered formatting a QL win disk and many other things. He is also still learning about emailing. Up to a quarter of Quanta's members do not have access to email or the internet and have the right to help with their problems and a paper magazine. But the real advantage of the down-loadable version is surely that any programme content, basic or assembler can used as is without having to type it all in is that an I or an l or a 1 ? Good point! I think a straight forward WORD doc is better than a pdf, more easily modifiable for printout, content, size and/or page order. Have you compared file size .doc versus .pdf? As it happens I can print out more versatilely from .pdf than .doc. (Not all of us possess WORD. WORDPRO is a good alternative.) And as for GWICKS quote :- However no one on the Quanta Committee has experience of either so we would have to have external expertise. Says it all in spades why are they running a computer group ? Another true story: A member of the Quanta committee had a QL problem. He asked everyone he met for the solution, and no one, including many QL experts, could give him an answer. Then he asked a household name in the QL community and got his first definitive response: If you don't know the answer to something as simple as that, then you are too stupid to use a computer! I am sure that members users interests would be better served by a coalition of traders, they have the expertise and an active scene is in their interest. Online conferenceing via Skype could replace travelling expenses too. The traders can also be an ill disciplined bunch. Just try asking them for an advert in GIF or JPG format and see what you get back in return! (And that assumes you get a reply in the first place.) Online conferencing is not as simple as its sounds. Jochen and I are trying to set up online facilities for urgent QL Today editorial conferences, but I am having problems with my server. The last Quanta committee meeting lasted for 4 hours. Would you really like to be sitting at your computer for that length of time? Sorry but I like to have human contacts. Wow! What a revelation! The Quanta Committee are human after all! Best wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] was Turbo, now A4 A5
On Aug 13, 2005, at 4:10 AM, gwicks wrote: Online conferencing is not as simple as its sounds. Jochen and I are trying to set up online facilities for urgent QL Today editorial conferences, but I am having problems with my server. The last Quanta committee meeting lasted for 4 hours. Would you really like to be sitting at your computer for that length of time? Sorry but I like to have human contacts. On the other hand, it would allow some of us to participate who can't actually get there (small matter of an ocean in the way in my case). I do phone and video conferences all the time and have taken to using video iChat nearly every day. While obviously not as ideal on direct 1 to 1 contact, it still is an opportunity that would be nice to have. Cheers, jim ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Dictionaries
That would be great. At least, it will be when that page works. There's something wrong with the URL which I can't yet figure out. The directory and page name are correct, both are in the correct case, yet they will not load (in Internet Exploder at least). The links use relative URLs in a table and all other links work online, the dictionaries page works offline but I can't get it to work online. I use HotMetal Pro to create the pages, so as I'm home all day tomorrow I'll take a more detailed look at the html to see if I can spot anything irregular - I know there are a couple of merged cells in that table just before or just after the broken link, so no doubt I'll be kicking myself when I see a major mistake staring me in the face!!! It will be great to add your dictionaries as I know you did put a fair bit of work into reducing errors in the original word lists. -- Dilwyn Jones - Original Message - From: gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Dictionaries - Original Message - From: Dilwyn Jones To: QL Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: QL News List Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 8:46 PM Subject: [ql-users] Dictionaries Obviously if anyone has more QTYP dictionaries I would be pleased to add them to the collection. Of all the QTYP language dictionaries I was able to locate, the one I want isn't among them - Welsh. If anyone can find a Welsh word list of suitable size for a spell checker (20,000+ words) on the web I would be very happy to receive a copy! All the ones I've been able to find are either too small or in a format I can't decode. Some day I must get around to putting all my QTYP dictionaries on my website as I promised to do long, long ago. For the record I have: Danish 23,515 words Dutch 52,612 words - 70,459 words - 180,130 words French 208,913 words German 165,935 words Italian83,829 words Norwegian 61,413 words Spanish 174,846 words Swiss German 165,810 words English (UK + USA) 84,099 words - 194,433 words English (UK) 65,197 words - 82,098 words English (USA) 61,366 words - 77,722 words I think I shall have to send these to you on CD by snailmail, Dilwyn. BTW you can save QTYP dictionaries to a PC medium without them becoming corrupted as they are already compressed, Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.2/65 - Release Date: 07/08/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.2/65 - Release Date: 07/08/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] website problem
Glad to say I've found the problem several people reported with my website's Dictionaries page after I added all the QTYP dictionaries last week. In fact, that page was affected by a combination of a rogue html tag which didn't show up in the TAGS view in my HTML editor, and a partially uploaded file. I've not yet fixed the provblem with the message form page. You can get to it now, but not return from it to the main page until I find the problem with that. (Just started a new job which has taken most of my time this week, insufficient processing capacity in my brain to cope with raw html at the moment!) -- Dilwyn Jones -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.2/65 - Release Date: 07/08/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Re:A4 A5
Up to a quarter of Quanta's members do not have access to email or the internet and have the right to help with their problems and a paper magazine. I really did think I had illustrated the difference between not USING access and not having it. as you describe it your man HAS the facility but like the Frenchman does not avail himself thereof. Am well into 70's myself - what of it ? Have you compared file size .doc versus .pdf? Ofcourse, an example I recall doc with pix 500k - pdf 75k., size not the point as much as ease of manipulation. It is easy to make a pdf from a doc, not so the reverse. As it happens I can print out more versatilely from .pdf than .doc. (Not all of us possess WORD. WORDPRO is a good alternative.) If one needs an alternative to the most widely used word processor. Included with almost all new PC packages . And it is capable of saving in older version formats, even MacSpeak. If docs too particular use rtf usually handleable by any processor. I know at least that were I to have the choice I would prefer to be able to drop the chairmans eulogy and other un useful verbiage, and to save or print that I so desired. not to mention run that included example programme. There are substantial savings to be made, it is up to the majority to decide if all should bare the costs for the benefit of the few. Though it seems unlikely that democracy has much likelihood of manifestation. The traders can also be an ill disciplined bunch. Just try asking them for an advert in GIF or JPG format and see what you get back in return! (And that assumes you get a reply in the first place.) Whilst it is obvious that it is hardly commercial anymore it must be better that something exists rather than not. I can understand a degree of reluctance, or lack of keenness to provide for the limited circulation of Quanta, quite apart from the poverty of presentation if the web site is anything to go on. Online conferencing is not as simple as its sounds. Jochen and I are trying to set up online facilities for urgent QL Today editorial conferences, but I am having problems with my server. The last Quanta committee meeting lasted for 4 hours. Would you really like to be sitting at your computer for that length of time? Sorry but I like to have human contacts. Using PCphone does not require a great deal of at the computer, cost saving was the motive rather than beer and jollies. I dont know but I would not be surprised if you spent more than the 4 hours travelling. I have not seen the constitution or articles, but I would be surprised if the role of the committee members is not that of stewardship rather than Honour , prestige and kudos. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.8/71 - Release Date: 12/08/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
