Re: [ql-users] FDD help? (Was: Visit to Switzerland)
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, extdgl42 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes I remember they never worked right. E.g. I have never been able to format (and previously could). I could take a disk full of files, delete one, and put my new file in, but not start fresh via format. John, Don, and Roy have all worked on my various tries at cabling, generic (or the old) boxes, etc. at various US shows. Roy even took the existing cable, took two pairs of four wires each and reversed them relative to each other. Things worked better in ways that again I don't remember, but never fully satisfactorily. Still couldn't format. There were a few versions of SMSQ/E for the Gold Card which had formatting problems. You had to issue direct instructions as to what the disk was such as FORMAT 'flp1_*D' for a DD disk and FORMAT 'flp1_*H' for an HD one That seems better in the later versions. Should not affect the native QL system though. Yes I did twist the cable because you had two flp2_ drives together. You twist lines 10, 11, and 12 counting from the line with the coloured stripe and by doing that you reverse the drive allocation. Making flp2_ turn into flp1_ so to speak. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] FDD help?
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 at 17:39:13, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) >On 9 Feb 2005 at 0:00, extdgl42 wrote: > >> Greetings once again from LurkLand. Can someone help with the following: >() > >What I would suggest is first to try a single drive - don't connect a second >drive, and see whether that works OK. > >Older dricesn as used generally in the QL World, had jumpers to tellwhich >drive was flp21 or 2_. > >Many of today's drives don't. They expect the cable to be twisted (which I >presume is why Roy did this). > >However, if you first can ascertain that the drive works on its own (and the >same with the second drive) at least you know that this is the problem. >Then you can try to make up a correct cable. All PC drives come as flp2_ (DS1). You are right. The majority do not have jumpers, but some still do. Often the jumper is solder blob shorts on the pcb. You should be able to find configurable drives, in which case a straight-through cable is the thing (DS0 = flp1 DS2 = flp2). ie the cable you already have. If you have problems, try flp_jiggle 1 (GC and SGC) Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] FDD help?
On 9 Feb 2005 at 0:00, extdgl42 wrote: > Greetings once again from LurkLand. Can someone help with the following: () What I would suggest is first to try a single drive - don't connect a second drive, and see whether that works OK. Older dricesn as used generally in the QL World, had jumpers to tellwhich drive was flp21 or 2_. Many of today's drives don't. They expect the cable to be twisted (which I presume is why Roy did this). However, if you first can ascertain that the drive works on its own (and the same with the second drive) at least you know that this is the problem. Then you can try to make up a correct cable. Hope this helps. Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] FDD help? (Was: Visit to Switzerland)
Greetings once again from LurkLand. Can someone help with the following: Does anyone have a pair of FDDs known to work (viz., for SGC and preferably GC as well)? Or maybe I just need a cable that is twisted right or otherwise set up right. I cannot get my dual 3.5" FDD to work. Haven't been able to for some time. I had a pair from long, long ago and far, far away that somehow stopped working (maybe the latch pooped out on one; don't remember). I decided to try replacing both with new generics and plug the cable from the Black Box back into the FDDs. I remember they never worked right. E.g. I have never been able to format (and previously could). I could take a disk full of files, delete one, and put my new file in, but not start fresh via format. John, Don, and Roy have all worked on my various tries at cabling, generic (or the old) boxes, etc. at various US shows. Roy even took the existing cable, took two pairs of four wires each and reversed them relative to each other. Things worked better in ways that again I don't remember, but never fully satisfactorily. Still couldn't format. So who has run into this before? "Should" I be able to get away with a pair of generic boxes and a cable that is wired "right"? Or is that an iffy setup and "should" I just get the full setup of a pair of boxes (yes, in one housing maybe) and a cable all known already to work? Possibly would have to be in USA given shipping $$. I am looking to get a physical QL within shouting distance of "original" to do a large part of my daily business. I am not ruling out the QPC I have; just want use for my black box. Hardware: SGC (also GC and Trump ~1M), in general original "black box"; 14.4 USR, Falkenberg, Hermes, Minerva, old Acorn RGWBlk monitor, Pxxx 24-pin printer. Thanks much, Doug LaVerne Oak Ridge, TN 37830 USA -Original Message- From: Dilwyn Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Feb 8, 2005 6:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AW: [ql-users] Visit to Switzerland >>The only QLer in the village - for all you Little Britain fans. >>Can't imaging Dilwyn in those trousers though. Or, at least, I don't >>want to. Neither do I! > Now that puts a different face on it ... :-) > > You had better be careful, Tony, about making a potential visit to > the village ... laplink, null modem cable, and all ... :-) I vaguely remember a picture and caption in IQLR magazine along the lines of "Tony Firshman caught dangling his Minerva Mkii in public". Now if that were to become a LapLink I'd start worrying ;-) -- Dilwyn Jones -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 03/02/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
