Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership survey
Even better than that with my 1920 x 1200 :) On Nov 21, 2004, at 8:08 PM, Tony Firshman wrote: On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 at 01:50:03, David Tubbs wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) At 01:14 22/11/2004 +, you wrote: 1680 wide screen. Must be a wet dream for many and it is often on my lap (8-)# 1680 x 1050 is a fabulous size. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership survey
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 at 11:49:39, James Hunkins wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) TF 1640 x 1050 screen Even better than that with my 1920 x 1200 :) Sounds like boasting in the showers (8-)# ... but this is on my laptop. Nasta made a lovely comment once. I said he ought to keep his emails to one page. He said it was on his similar sized screen to yours (8-)# Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On 21 Nov 2004 at 4:30, Tony Firshman wrote: I think after his comments, I really don't feel like putting myself out at all. Tony (and David!) as I said in an earlier email, don't punish this community in its entirety because of one (or several) disparaging comments made on/off this list. C'me on people, this is the real world - some people WILL not like what you say, WILL make fun of you, WILL ignore you etc... That doesn't mean that most of them will think the same. And, David, just because you have no reaction doesn't mean that you haven't be read and aprreciated. This, I think, is part of the nature of this list. Let's not take ourselves too seriously! Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 at 10:02:50, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On 21 Nov 2004 at 4:30, Tony Firshman wrote: I think after his comments, I really don't feel like putting myself out at all. Tony (and David!) as I said in an earlier email, don't punish this community in its entirety because of one (or several) disparaging comments made on/off this list. C'me on people, this is the real world - some people WILL not like what you say, WILL make fun of you, WILL ignore you etc... That doesn't mean that most of them will think the same. And, David, just because you have no reaction doesn't mean that you haven't be read and aprreciated. This, I think, is part of the nature of this list. Let's not take ourselves too seriously! I mean for the questionnaire. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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At 04:30 21/11/2004 +, you wrote: Tony wrote The -whole- point of doing the on-line survey was to get someone on the Quanta committee to say they would like to use the form. A forlorn hope I am sure. But I see no need for Qanta to be involved, the results of a survey (if any) would be of general interest to many and surely particularly so for traders. There has been some pretty sarcastic comment about me personally in a private email (I think) from a Quanta committee member on another matter which, on reflection, has annoyed me more than I thought at the time. I think after his comments, I really don't feel like putting myself out at all. Quite understandable, there seem to be many more knockers than constructivists here. All my inputs here have generated are facile denials of my assertion that no one is without access to the www. If your troglodyte BC chooses not to avail himself then that his choice. My, you must have had a night of it, I find myself living upside down times these nights. DT ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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On 21 Nov 2004 at 14:09, David Tubbs wrote: But I see no need for Qanta to be involved, the results of a survey (if any) would be of general interest to many and surely particularly so for traders. Yes of course, why didn't I think of that? Why don't you, Tony, make this available on your website and poll the results yourself? I'm sure it would be very interesting for all of us! (...) Quite understandable, there seem to be many more knockers than constructivists here. All my inputs here have generated are facile denials of my assertion that no one is without access to the www. If your troglodyte BC chooses not to avail himself then that his choice. No, actually it isn't. As for the subject matter itself: You said NO one is without access to the Web. I state to you that I know somebody who is. Instead of acknowledging that, thus, the above assertion is not right, you simply say oh this is by his own choice. 1 - Does it matter? the fact is that there is at least one QL person without access to the web, proving your assertion wrong. 2 - How could you possibly know why that person doesn't have access to the web? My, you must have had a night of it, I find myself living upside down times these nights. Move to Australia ? :-) (I include the emoticon to show you that this was supposed to be a joke and not a flippant remark by which I'd disregard your comments - okay) Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 at 15:18:38, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On 21 Nov 2004 at 14:09, David Tubbs wrote: But I see no need for Qanta to be involved, the results of a survey (if any) would be of general interest to many and surely particularly so for traders. Yes of course, why didn't I think of that? Why don't you, Tony, make this available on your website and poll the results yourself? I'm sure it would be very interesting for all of us! OK that is a good compromise. I will change it to a more general survey and simply manipulate a database myself locally. That will be easier than assembling the results in email form. I will modify the form and invite comments please. This form will be there for years to come, so it is important to get it as complete as possible right from the start. I have to go out today, but will start the job this evening. Still no comment from anyone on the committee about the form detail or whether they want to use it. Mind you come to think of it I have only talked about it on the list - whoops. I will email the committee direct. (Is that phrased better David T (8-)# That is what I meant to say the first time. I have known you too long to imply you don't matter!) Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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Either this email is intended to make us all feel really good about how our day is going or to show that you always have backup plans (won't even ask about the spare rear doors :) ). Cheers, jim On Nov 21, 2004, at 12:23 PM, Tony Firshman wrote: On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 at 14:09:20, David Tubbs wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) At 04:30 21/11/2004 +, you wrote: Tony wrote The -whole- point of doing the on-line survey was to get someone on the Quanta committee to say they would like to use the form. A forlorn hope I am sure. But I see no need for Qanta to be involved, the results of a survey (if any) would be of general interest to many and surely particularly so for traders. Quite understandable, there seem to be many more knockers than constructivists here. All my inputs here have generated are facile denials of my assertion that no one is without access to the www. If your troglodyte BC chooses not to avail himself then that his choice. My, you must have had a night of it, I find myself living upside down times these nights. I had just got back from rescuing a worldnews machine. The Linux machines rumble on almost without attention. This is a W2003 machine. Windows locked up on closing. When we did a power cycle, we found that W2003 had successfully managed to destroy the boot sector on both raid mirror disks! Brilliant achievement Bill (8-)# We have so many troubles with windows that we will move this machine to linux and run a Windows emulator under Linux. Ridiculous isn't it. On the way back, I got out of the car to buy petrol, but somehow the door did not unlock. I had to break a window to get back in. Fortunately I have at least 4 spare rear doors at the bottom of the garden! I turned -off- my phone to avoid the 08:30 church alarm. The ry thing turned itself on again to sound the alarm (8-)# Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 at 12:27:49, James Hunkins wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Either this email is intended to make us all feel really good about how our day is going or to show that you always have backup plans (won't even ask about the spare rear doors :) ). Not just rear doors (8-)# Mind you Bill Cable has spare -cars- Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership survey
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 at 00:23:42, David Tubbs wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) comments to present survey version:- Section 2, I suggest that use for faxing might be in a section on how electronic communication is achieved - QL modem or other means. Also what other computer system might be in use - PC, MAC or UNIX/LINUX ?? Section 3, Other addon cards, E-Progger - A/D card , any others ? Other motherboards ? Section 4, If it is to get a broader circulation - Are you still a mamber, and when did you cease to be ? General - I rarely use a full screen window, plays some havoc with checkbox separating from title. Yes, but I have kept the general width very small. I use a window on my screen, and it doesn't break awkwardly and it is only filling about 1/3 of the screen width on a 1680 wide screen. That is less than 600, and should suit all screens. ... and of course you can always adjust text size. Perhaps Text boxes with the Others I think I will have to draw the line now without your first three good suggestions. Quanta have said they will use the form, and I have to get the core programming done quickly. Once that is done, I may add more. Thanks for all your comments. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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At 01:14 22/11/2004 +, you wrote: 1680 wide screen. Must be a wet dream for many ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Mike MacNamara [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: David Tubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 3:42 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Quanta membership Survey At 01:10 20/11/2004 +, you wrote: Nice one Tony. Action better than words. Good to see the year joined question, ofcourse it should not need to be asked. But I think it is important when considering how Q would use accrued capital which should be equitably done in favour of the longest contributors. I fear when you consider the thousands of members, who have contributed over many years, but have now given up, been put off, or not renewed for whatever reason, you may have, quite justifiably, a demand for their inclusion in allocation of funds. Mike ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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At 09:39 20/11/2004 +, you wrote: There was another mainboard by a guy in Sawston Cambs ? Other add ons - Eprom Progger, A/D Converter Nome brewed stuff I thought drunk Nomes sat in gardens (8-)# Tony Such a dismissive response ! I do beg your pardon, never mind, run the whole thing for a guy with phone line but not prepared like the rest to take up the WWW. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 at 18:12:10, David Tubbs wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) At 09:39 20/11/2004 +, you wrote: There was another mainboard by a guy in Sawston Cambs ? Other add ons - Eprom Progger, A/D Converter Nome brewed stuff I thought drunk Nomes sat in gardens (8-)# Tony Such a dismissive response ! I do beg your pardon, never mind, run the whole thing for a guy with phone line but not prepared like the rest to take up the WWW. You are touchy David. Maybe too much Nome brew (8-)# I was joking about your mistyping only. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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At 18:24 20/11/2004 +, you wrote: You are touchy David. Maybe too much Nome brew (8-)# I was joking about your mistyping only. OK, a typo - big deal ! Surely the Tinkerers have been adding bits of their own making ? I thought only to make an intelligent contribution, but evidently I don't matter. But do those who do ? Seems to me as an outsider, more interested in the QL than Quanta that the problems can be divided in two parts. What Quanta can and may do with it's reserves, and should it continue to exist to give committee members titles ? How best to achieve good communication and help between users of the QL family of equipment. The latter is not dependent on the existence or inactivity of Quanta. A decent web site, with a range of info and links to all other resources, would not need itself to hold all files software. Might include a decent forum such as I have seen at PCanswers and Mozilla for example. Where threads are maintained and we don't need to wade across two pages of overblown header an superfluous quoted requoted quotes to find an insignificant response. It could include a shielded area to which users might upload a contribution, wikpedia is clever in that way. The survey does not need the cooperation of those that matter, surely Geoff could legitimately mail the membership and traders could add further users. I have more time than techno competences but would be prepared to undertake compiling the responses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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At 21:59 20/11/2004 +, you wrote: I thought only to make an intelligent contribution, but evidently I don't matter. Who said that? I certainly didn't. Tony OH YES YOU DID ! I still have nothing from the people that matter Added to which both my considered responses merited no comment at all. Two earlier more conversational ripostes failed to gain acknowledgement. I'm sorry , I think I can take the hint. Bye ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
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On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 at 23:53:47, David Tubbs wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) At 21:59 20/11/2004 +, you wrote: I thought only to make an intelligent contribution, but evidently I don't matter. Who said that? I certainly didn't. Tony OH YES YOU DID ! I still have nothing from the people that matter Added to which both my considered responses merited no comment at all. Two earlier more conversational ripostes failed to gain acknowledgement. I'm sorry , I think I can take the hint. This is getting really really silly David. Of course I read and took your comments into account. I was not not not not not not saying you didn't matter. I see what you mean now. The -whole- point of doing the on-line survey was to get someone on the Quanta committee to say they would like to use the form. There has been some pretty sarcastic comment about me personally in a private email (I think) from a Quanta committee member on another matter which, on reflection, has annoyed me more than I thought at the time. I think after his comments, I really don't feel like putting myself out at all. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
