Re: [ql-users] RESET in SMSQE
In a message dated 25/02/05 17:45:01 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A solution more than likely lies in the reset code on SMSQE which seems implicitly to assume a vector base register of zero. I might be wrong but an exlicit zero of the vector base register during soft reset under SMSQE might be a solution for the problem but a more fundemental look at the code might reveal where SMSQE is going wrong and and maybe lead to a solution. The reason why RESET does not work with Q40/60 is indeed with the VBR. The following change sorts the problem. In smsq_q40_hwinit_asm the instructions should include: hwinit moveq #0,d0 pcregvbr ** this is the new instruction ** pcregcacr I have recompiled SMSQE for my Q40/60 with this addition and RESET now works. George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] RESET in SMSQE
The Movep emulation is needed if you still use programs that use it, as an example DP MSDOS Conqueror use it and you need the emulation loaded. Ciao Fabrizio - Original Message - From: Wolfgang Lenerz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] RESET in SMSQE On 25 Feb 2005 at 20:26, Fabrizio Diversi wrote: David you are right, I had the same problem as George with Reset, the problem is due to movep emulation rext file, for the reason you told before. Is this file still needed? (I never load it in my Q60,since Fabrizio took the Movep instructions out of SMSQE). I'll see whether I can set the VBR explicitly to 0 for a soft reset, too. Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] RESET in SMSQE
Wolfgang Lenerz schreef: On 24 Feb 2005 at 23:03, jms1 wrote: I have just tried reset on SMSQE 3.07 on my QXL. On a clean machine, it works. However if I run my boot program and then reset it crashes. So there must be something wrong with reset. just a little hint here: use FiFi on all files loaded by your boot program, to search for reset. tell us what you find. Wolfgang snip My sbasic keywords list shows to presence of RESET in: dp_tk3 (Digital Precision Toolkit) hi_tool2_bin sms-q (of course) tools_rext Dbas_bin (older version) Hope this helps And of course, I too use 'reset'. François Van Emelen ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] RESET in SMSQE
In a message dated 24/02/05 23:29:18 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: jms1 wrote: I have just tried reset on SMSQE 3.07 on my QXL. On a clean machine, it works. However if I run my boot program and then reset it crashes. So there must be something wrong with reset. Good observation, but jumping too fast to the conclusion. Problems in SMSQ/E are almost never this straight forward. For example an extension in your boot could have redefined RESET. Or overwritten the RESET code. Or 1000 more reasons. You cannot blaim RESET for that. As I happen to know that the RESET procedure is clean, I find this theory much more believable. I have found that I was using a RESET from TK3 on my Q40 and Q60. Hence my previous remarks were NOT relevant to SMSQE. However the bad news is that though I have now renamed the TK3 RESET to RASET which allows the SMSQE RESET to reappear it (the SMSQE RESET) still crashes the machine. This is true of v3.04 and 3.07. Pressing ALT/CONTROL/SHIFT/TAB is equally bad. I have checked the code for SMSQE's RESET and, as far as I can see, it has not been overwritten. George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] RESET in SMSQE
A small question/suggestion especialy for george gwilt, try not loading the floating point utilitiies which take advantage of the 68060 hardware floating point as they change the vector base register which in my opinion mucks ups the behaviour of the SMSQE soft reset which somewhere in the code assumes a zero vector base register. This comment also applies to the movep emulation code for the 68060 by mark swift plus any thing else which changes the vecto base register. A solution more than likely lies in the reset code on SMSQE which seems implicitly to assume a vector base register of zero. I might be wrong but an exlicit zero of the vector base register during soft reset under SMSQE might be a solution for the problem but a more fundemental look at the code might reveal where SMSQE is going wrong and and maybe lead to a solution. - David Gilham - The universe is a queer place ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] RESET in SMSQE
David Gilham wrote: A solution more than likely lies in the reset code on SMSQE which seems implicitly to assume a vector base register of zero. Very good point. The VBR doesn't seem to be set anywhere in the initialisation code, although it should. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] RESET in SMSQE
David you are right, I had the same problem as George with Reset, the problem is due to movep emulation rext file, for the reason you told before. Ciao Fabrizio - Original Message - From: David Gilham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] RESET in SMSQE A small question/suggestion especialy for george gwilt, try not loading the floating point utilitiies which take advantage of the 68060 hardware floating point as they change the vector base register which in my opinion mucks ups the behaviour of the SMSQE soft reset which somewhere in the code assumes a zero vector base register. This comment also applies to the movep emulation code for the 68060 by mark swift plus any thing else which changes the vecto base register. A solution more than likely lies in the reset code on SMSQE which seems implicitly to assume a vector base register of zero. I might be wrong but an exlicit zero of the vector base register during soft reset under SMSQE might be a solution for the problem but a more fundemental look at the code might reveal where SMSQE is going wrong and and maybe lead to a solution. - David Gilham - The universe is a queer place ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] RESET in SMSQE
- Original Message - From: Wolfgang Lenerz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] RESET in SMSQE On 23 Feb 2005 at 10:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The code for the keyword RESET in SMSQE seems to close all channels and then perform the assembler instruction RESET. () It definitely works here. It doesn't do what you say. Why has RESET not been reprogrammed? As a general rule, concerning SMSQE; the answer to such a question would be : Because you didn't do it. Does anyone use it? It definitey works here,and I use it. Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm I have just tried reset on SMSQE 3.07 on my QXL. On a clean machine, it works. However if I run my boot program and then reset it crashes. So there must be something wrong with reset. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] RESET in SMSQE
jms1 wrote: I have just tried reset on SMSQE 3.07 on my QXL. On a clean machine, it works. However if I run my boot program and then reset it crashes. So there must be something wrong with reset. Good observation, but jumping too fast to the conclusion. Problems in SMSQ/E are almost never this straight forward. For example an extension in your boot could have redefined RESET. Or overwritten the RESET code. Or 1000 more reasons. You cannot blaim RESET for that. As I happen to know that the RESET procedure is clean, I find this theory much more believable. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] RESET in SMSQE
On 24 Feb 2005 at 23:03, jms1 wrote: I have just tried reset on SMSQE 3.07 on my QXL. On a clean machine, it works. However if I run my boot program and then reset it crashes. So there must be something wrong with reset. Or your boot program. Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] RESET in SMSQE
On 24 Feb 2005 at 23:03, jms1 wrote: I have just tried reset on SMSQE 3.07 on my QXL. On a clean machine, it works. However if I run my boot program and then reset it crashes. So there must be something wrong with reset. just a little hint here: use FiFi on all files loaded by your boot program, to search for reset. tell us what you find. Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] RESET in SMSQE
The code for the keyword RESET in SMSQE seems to close all channels and then perform the assembler instruction RESET. This assembler instruction sets the (supervisor) stack equal to the first long word in ram and sets the PC to the second long word in ram. Unfortunately for those who have LRESPRd their versions of SMSQE on the Q40/60 this will not have the desired effect. The first five bytes of ram contain the length of a string (3) and the three bytes of the string (RES). The second long word of ram is not a good place to branch to. First of all the address is odd (not a good omen) and secondly there is no program there. At least that is what I surmised. To test this I actually typed RESET followed by ENTER and - the machine (Q60) stopped. Why has RESET not been reprogrammed? Does anyone use it? George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] RESET in SMSQE
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The code for the keyword RESET in SMSQE seems to close all channels and then perform the assembler instruction RESET. Hmm no, in my sources it doesn't (smsq_sbas_procs_reset_asm/ smsq_smsq_reset_asm). It branches to the same place CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+TAB jumps to. Why has RESET not been reprogrammed? Does anyone use it? Do you have another tool that replaces the SMSQ/E RESET command? Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] RESET in SMSQE
On 23 Feb 2005 at 10:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The code for the keyword RESET in SMSQE seems to close all channels and then perform the assembler instruction RESET. () It definitely works here. It doesn't do what you say. Why has RESET not been reprogrammed? As a general rule, concerning SMSQE; the answer to such a question would be : Because you didn't do it. Does anyone use it? It definitey works here,and I use it. Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] RESET in SMSQE
Wolfgang Lenerz schrieb: Does anyone use it? It definitey works here,and I use it. Wolfgang i use it too wolfgang mühlegger ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] RESET in SMSQE
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] wolfgang mühlegger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wolfgang Lenerz schrieb: Does anyone use it? It definitey works here,and I use it. Wolfgang i use it too wolfgang mühlegger I use it and it works fine with smsq/e 3. But it did not work with 2.x versions on my Q40. Michael Grunditz ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
