Re: [ql-users] was Turbo, now A4 A5

2005-08-13 Thread gwicks


- Original Message - 
From: David Tubbs

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Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Turbo

Thanks for the apology!


A4 A5

There is a troglodyte, living far out in the desert, running a solar 
powered  MDV only 128 QL. He does NOT have access to the Internet.


Is there anyone else that does not have a phone line and a PC, or access 
to the web from the office, a library or an Internet caff ?  If these 
resources are not utilised that does not mean they are unavailable.




This year Roy Wood and I are helping a man in his late 70's with a problem. 
He is a black box user who has used nothing more than Quill for many years. 
He now wants his  1/3rd lifetime's work converted to PC format to be 
available to his family. To do this he has bought a PC, QPC2, QPC Print, 
QL2PC Transfer and possibly also the Qmenu extensions. I recently spent 45 
minutes on the phone with him giving a telephone tutorial.


He employs a tutor to teach him how to use a PC, but has not yet mastered 
formatting a QL win disk and many other things. He is also still learning 
about emailing.


Up to a quarter of Quanta's members do not have access to email or the 
internet and have the right to help with their problems and a paper 
magazine.





But the real advantage of the down-loadable version is surely that any 
programme content, basic or assembler can used as is without having to 
type it all in  is that an I or an l or a 1 ?




Good point!

I think a straight forward WORD  doc is better than a pdf, more easily 
modifiable for printout, content, size and/or page order.




Have you compared file size .doc versus .pdf? As it happens I can print out 
more versatilely from .pdf than .doc. (Not all of us possess WORD. WORDPRO 
is a good alternative.)



And as for GWICKS quote :-
However no one on the Quanta Committee has experience of either so we 
would have to have external expertise.


Says it all in spades  why are they running a computer group ?



Another true story:

A member of the Quanta committee had a QL problem. He asked everyone he met 
for the solution, and no one, including many QL experts, could give him an 
answer. Then he asked a household name in the QL community and got his first 
definitive response:


If you don't know the answer to something as simple as that, then you are 
too stupid to use a computer!


I am sure that members  users interests would be better served by a 
coalition of traders, they have the expertise and an active scene is in 
their interest. Online conferenceing via Skype could replace travelling 
expenses too.




The traders can also be an ill disciplined bunch. Just try asking them for 
an advert in GIF or JPG format and see what you get back in return! (And 
that assumes you get a reply in the first place.)


Online conferencing is not as simple as its sounds. Jochen and I are trying 
to set up online facilities for urgent QL Today editorial conferences, but I 
am having problems with my server. The last Quanta committee meeting lasted 
for 4 hours. Would you really like to be sitting at your computer for that 
length of time? Sorry but  I like to have human contacts.


Wow! What a revelation! The Quanta Committee are human after all!

Best wishes,
Geoff 



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Re: [ql-users] was Turbo, now A4 A5

2005-08-13 Thread James Hunkins


On Aug 13, 2005, at 4:10 AM, gwicks wrote:
Online conferencing is not as simple as its sounds. Jochen and I are 
trying to set up online facilities for urgent QL Today editorial 
conferences, but I am having problems with my server. The last Quanta 
committee meeting lasted for 4 hours. Would you really like to be 
sitting at your computer for that length of time? Sorry but  I like to 
have human contacts.




On the other hand, it would allow some of us to participate who can't 
actually get there (small matter of an ocean in the way in my case).  I 
do phone and video conferences all the time and have taken to using 
video iChat nearly every day.  While obviously not as ideal on direct 1 
to 1 contact, it still is an opportunity that would be nice to have.


Cheers,
jim

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