I can't help François with this particular problem, but one situation
where I have encountered this kind of out of range error before (where
a supposedly matching size window and item result in out of range
error) is where the item is LEFT justified. In fact, often, left
justified is not truly
It seems to me if you expect to be able to see more than the window
width you would have to send material to a notional piece of paper in
the manner of a word processor or editor, to be viewed THROUGH your
window. Conten to be stored in memory as an array, line by line. As to
the third
At 16:57 30/06/2005 +0200, you wrote:
Hi all,
How can I avoid the folowing error:
Puts me in mind of the Irishman who, when asked for directions, said If I
was going there I wouldn't start from here.
'at line .. value out of range'
MAWDRAW#3\3,grille$,0,0,0,cel_breedte%,12,1,1
It seems
Dilwyn Jones writes:
If you use WMOV there is only the old method available. You
can't use any of the new methods. Sometimes you have to use
WMOV. For example, the Launchpad clock runs in a MW_LINKed
window so it has to be stopped before a move routine is
called to move the main display.
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 at 14:06:05, Dave P wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, Roy wood wrote:
Could be worse - could be Jochen and almost anything electrical. He is
the only person I know whose washing machine has a software fault.
No, he isn't. :)
My washer would sometimes
Am Tue, 8 Mar 2005 22:59:14 - hat Dilwyn Jones
[EMAIL PROTECTED] geschrieben:
Create a small menu, say one info window and one loose item. Do not
MCALL, just MDRAW then try to MWINDOW to the loose item followed by
MINPUT. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, sometimes it only
My little colour selection technique using PALETTE_QL seems to work OK
in the simple programs I've tried it in.
That might be, but all PALETTE_QL settings are global! You're changing
the colours for ALL jobs this way.
Yes, I forgot to mention that.
At least running mode 4 colour scheme
Hi Marcel,
Is this all? Nobody else any problems? I won't promise anything, but
if I don't know what's wrong I certainly cannot change it.
I promise that I will never ever see you as THE person to ask for
improvements of
EasyPtr ;) but I am happy that you do it :)
Okay then, one problem with
3) Application window scroll bar attributes cannot be set or
changed without specifying a pre-set menu too. Part of the problem
may be with the toolkit which seems to ignore or overwrite
attributes added by hand later.
This sounds a bit complicated, especially as all the application
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, Roy wood wrote:
Could be worse - could be Jochen and almost anything electrical. He is
the only person I know whose washing machine has a software fault.
No, he isn't. :)
My washer would sometimes stop mid-cycle, and the LCD would display
##2##2##2##2##2isread
The
I can just hear Roy muttering Dilwyn and his PC again...
Could be worse - could be Jochen and almost anything electrical. He
is the only person I know whose washing machine has a software
fault.
--
Roy Wood
The way Jochen has problems with domestic appliances, I'd be very
surprised if Andrea
The repairman who fixed it under warranty said the on-board
microcontroller had a faulty EPROM, and that he would have to get a
replacement. I offered, and he accepted, for me to download the
image, and
flash a 27512 I happened to have laying around. This gave me
opportunities
for abuse... (and
Is this all? Nobody else any problems? I won't promise anything,
but
if I don't know what's wrong I certainly cannot change it.
Think the only other things which spring to mind are:
You cannot create an application sub-window menu with MAWDRAW or
MAWSETUP which only contains one item in the
Rich Mellor wrote:
You cannot create an application sub-window menu with MAWDRAW or MAWSETUP
which only contains one item in the menu.
I need example for that, as simple as possible.
MITEM does not allow you to redraw the loose item - it should accept the ,
or \ separator in line with the
Wolfgang Uhlig schreef:
Am Sat, 05 Mar 2005 22:08:04 +0100 hat François Van Emelen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] geschrieben:
230 MDRAW#3,mysuqces$ :REMark mawdraw#3,4
Oh Francois, what's that? I don't know but one SuQcess and that's the one
of
me and Bob Spelten ;)
What's in a variable's name.
Line 230
Wolfgang Uhlig writes:
EasyMenu is not very good at displaying high colour sprites, you have to
fool it by putting a 4/8 mode sprite in front of each high colour
sprite.
This is not true! Only if you want to have the sprites in mode 4 or 8,
too.
Just to confuse things a bit more: Loose
I have been using this for quite some time now, even in my Email
reader. Easymenu can do much more than we first thought.
You miss the point. It can't do much of this without quite a lot of
lateral thinking and programming around limitations.
This is exactly what people want corrected.
--
P Witte wrote:
1) Manually added scaling flags are removed on re-loading a menu definition
and may even crash the program. 2) System sprites cant be shown and other
hicolour sprites are problematic. 3) Application window scroll bar
attributes cannot be set or changed without specifying a
Dilwyn Jones wrote:
1. I can't change the colour of the border or main window unless I
cover the main window with an info window. If Easyptr allowed, say,
MWINDOW #0,0 for the main outline it might then be possible to change
the main menu colour.
Use system palette colours in the menu and
Am Sun, 6 Mar 2005 13:34:19 - hat Dilwyn Jones
[EMAIL PROTECTED] geschrieben:
You totally miss the point of my email.
You Wrote:
It would be useful if the menu colours could be changed at runtime. At
the moment, once they are defined in the Easymenu layout, that's it,
the colours are fixed
François Van Emelen wrote:
Some functions/procedures need improvement. For example 'RPXL%'
(returns the pixel colour at a given position) only works in QL
colours.
This is an SMSQ/E limitation.
About TurboPtr: the demo George showed us in Eindhoven(QL2004)
didn't convince me to abandon
Dilwyn Jones wrote:
I'm not sure I can enter system palette colours in standard Easyptr
can I?
No, I thought you had the newer one, haven't really kept track of it.
Marcel
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Marcel Kilgus writes:
P Witte wrote:
1) Manually added scaling flags are removed on re-loading a menu
definition
and may even crash the program. 2) System sprites cant be shown and
other
hicolour sprites are problematic. 3) Application window scroll bar
attributes cannot be set or
I said I wasn't going to write more on this, but as this will be a bit
more positive, I thought I'd at least try to make amends for the
negative emails.
This listing shows one way of getting 8 colours of your choice in the
menus.
Using colours 0 to 7 (black, blue,...yellow, white) it uses the
- Original Message -
From: P Witte [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic
Snip
Although, in the fullness of time, the tools that George has
produced to go with TurboPtr, may become replacements
- Original Message -
From: Wolfgang Uhlig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic
P Witte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We can live without a good menu designer or a sprite editor,
but not without
P Witte schreef:
SNIP
Its a pity Albin is no longer interested in developing EP,
but thats life. It needent be such a big task, though. IMHO
EP could be split into three or four different projects: 1)
EasyMen, 2) EasySprite, 3) the toolkit, 4) C-stuff.
1) EasyMenu:
In fact I would be happy with
wolfgang mühlegger wrote:
but why did he do it then?
Just for fun.
and why did he give it to beta-testers then?
There were no beta testers. I just gave it to some people and said
look, mom, without hands.
Marcel
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- Original Message -
From: wolfgang mühlegger
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic
gwicks schrieb:
Nevertheless Marcel has already made a considerable improvement to
EasyPtr, but as yet it is only available to a few
gwicks schreef:
SNIP
When I last saw the upgraded version all it did was allow you to use GD2
colours directly, but nothing else. For example, if you use high
resolution sprites you have to load these into EasyMenu every time you
make changes to a menu.
This is not true. Once your window is
Geoff Wicks wrote:
As I understand it the history is as follows:
When QL-ers first started to program in GD2 colours, the possibility
of upgrading EasyPtr was raised including a lot of discussion on
this list. Just out of interest Marcel took a look at it and working
through the night produced a
gwicks wrote:
At this stage there was some doubt over the legal position, which in
itself led to a lot of misunderstanding because no one had thought
of asking Albin. I understand that he is quite happy for the program
to be upgraded.
Yes, he basically said that anything I choose to do is
Myself for another.
jim
On Mar 3, 2005, at 11:17 PM, François Van Emelen wrote:
Roy wood schreef:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], gwicks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Snip
Easyptr is still a commercial program sold by Jochen and I
On the subject of EasyPtr any news of a possible upgrade?
The upgrade
The question is would there be a market for an updated version. Marcel
does a lo of work on this kind of thing and gets little back for it. He
has the source files but I cannot, in all honesty, ask him to work for
nothing. He says that the code is not that easy to understand so he is
the
Easyptr is still a commercial program sold by Jochen and I
On the subject of EasyPtr any news of a possible upgrade?
The upgrade situation is not easy. I do have an updated version of
Easymenu and Easysprite but they are by no means releasable as Marcel
considers them unfinished.
I would definitely want to have an upgrade (and pay for it ofcourse) and
think that
we need it urgently.
So, as far as I am concerned, please stop discussing it, fix a price for
it and begin to DO it.
Wolfgang
Agreed, Wolfgang. QPCprint will appeal only to QPC2 users, so a small
Me too.
Fabrizio
- Original Message -
From: Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 1:08 AM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], gwicks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
- Original Message - From: Roy wood
Roy wood writes:
The upgrade situation is not easy. I do have an updated version of
Easymenu and Easysprite but they are by no means releasable as Marcel
considers them unfinished. The question is would there be a market for
an updated version. Marcel does a lo of work on this kind of thing
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wolfgang Uhlig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
SNIP
I am a liittle bit astonished because AFAIR there were many people in
Eindhoven
2004 already who pointed out that they would be willing to pay for an
upgraded
version of EasyPtr. Nevertheless nothing happens exept for
James Hunkins schrieb:
Myself for another.
jim
On Mar 3, 2005, at 11:17 PM, François Van Emelen wrote:
Roy wood schreef:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], gwicks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Snip
Easyptr is still a commercial program sold by Jochen and I
On the subject of EasyPtr any news of a possible
P Witte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We can live without a good menu designer or a sprite editor,
but not without a way of displaying and manipulating our
windows and menus from within programs, so for me that is
the main priority.
As to me, I can live without a sprite editor because it's possible to
- Original Message -
From: Roy wood
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 12:08 AM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic
As the person who raised this yet again I would also be prepared to pay for
an upgrade.
At QL2004 I asked Marcel specifically about his
gwicks schrieb:
As the person who raised this yet again I would also be prepared to pay
for an upgrade.
At QL2004 I asked Marcel specifically about his attitude to the EasyPtr
upgrade and he was quite definite that he did not want to be seen as
Mr. EasyPtr. I interpreted this to mean that he
- Original Message -
From: Roy wood
Subject: Re: [ql-users] movig sbasic
Easyptr is still a commercial program sold by Jochen and I
On the subject of EasyPtr any news of a possible upgrade?
Best Wishes,
Geoff
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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], gwicks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
- Original Message - From: Roy wood Subject: Re: [ql-users]
movig sbasic
Easyptr is still a commercial program sold by Jochen and I
On the subject of EasyPtr any news of a possible upgrade?
The upgrade situation is not easy.
Wolfgang Uhlig wrote:
Marcel wrote:
just came off the phone with Albin. In the course of the
conversation we recognised that we would have met tomorrow anyway at a
wedding of a mutual friend, so I will have some time to talk to him
and sort this out.
Any requests, suggestions?
Make him rewrite
Wolfgang Uhlig wrote:
Make him rewrite EasyPtr... :-)))
Not going to happen. He said if he were retired he'd probably do
something, but as it is, he isn't and has enough paying things to do.
Marcel
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