Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers
Roy wood wrote: >>Perhaps that was the root of the problem you went to the bank for in the >>first case?? > Oak A, I think it's time to leaf it out now, buddy. > Don't tangle with the pun meister! "Roy Wood, putting the pun in PUNishment since 19xx" ;-) Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Gilpin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes - Original Message - From: "Dilwyn Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers >>"Dear Mr Services," >> >>Tony >> > The counter clerk at the bank kept calling me 'Mr. Branch' so I > asked him if I could have a Branch Manager. Did he Twig what you were on about? JG Perhaps that was the root of the problem you went to the bank for in the first case?? Oak A, I think it's time to leaf it out now, buddy. Don't tangle with the pun meister! -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 at 17:21:06, John Gilpin wrote: (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) > >- Original Message - >From: "Dilwyn Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 4:05 PM >Subject: Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers > > >> >>"Dear Mr Services," >> >> >> >>Tony >> >> >> > The counter clerk at the bank kept calling me 'Mr. Branch' so I >> > asked him if I could have a Branch Manager. >> Did he Twig what you were on about? > >JG > >Perhaps that was the root of the problem you went to the bank for in the >first case?? Come on lads, Roy has the copyright on puns (8-)# Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers
- Original Message - From: "Dilwyn Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers > >>"Dear Mr Services," > >> > >>Tony > >> > > The counter clerk at the bank kept calling me 'Mr. Branch' so I > > asked him if I could have a Branch Manager. > Did he Twig what you were on about? JG Perhaps that was the root of the problem you went to the bank for in the first case?? John Gilpin. > Dilwyn Jones > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.3 - Release Date: 24/01/2005 > > ___ > QL-Users Mailing List > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm > ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers
"Dear Mr Services," Tony The counter clerk at the bank kept calling me 'Mr. Branch' so I asked him if I could have a Branch Manager. Did he Twig what you were on about? -- Dilwyn Jones -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.3 - Release Date: 24/01/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tony Firshman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes The best one I suppose, was a letter starting "Dear Mr Services," Tony The counter clerk at the bank kept calling me 'Mr. Branch' so I asked him if I could have a Branch Manager. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 at 21:47:30, Bill Waugh wrote: (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) > >snip > >> I think it is too... and informative :-P >> >>> I won't bore you with all the various misspellings of my name. >>> >>> The best one I suppose, was a letter starting >>> >>> "Dear Mr Services," >> Now THAT is funny :-) > >even funnier if they had presumed a few Christian names - Motorway, >Emergency, Special or perhaps Shed Erecting (;-) I have one more now - seven in total. I am even thinking of extending my office (shed) to make a print room. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers and BBS
I think it was a development of the Miracle hard disk. Derek - Original Message - From: "Jeremy Taffel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers and BBS Derek Stewart wrote: Hi, The MAKE_DIR command first appeared for the Miracle Hard drive, whic was the fisrt stable hard drive system for the QL, as I ran a BBS on a 40Mb Miracle Hard Drive for a long time. Maybe the command to make hard directories was incorporated in the Trump card Toolkit 2 rom, but it did notreally work on floppy drives... well the one I had. It was not till the Gold Card appeared, that I had a hard directory system on floppy disks. My trump card user manual which came with my gold card (see previous posting) gives a TKII update record up to V 2.13. It also has a disk (firmware) update record which goes to V1.21 (included RAM disk v1.03 AT v1.17). The manual cover the use of RAM disks and in the keyword list it includes DUP DDOWN, but not MK_DIR, so it seems fairly conclusive to me that the version of the Trump Card covered did not include either the keyword, or the level 2 drivers. I agree that both were available on the GC though. Jeremy -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.4 - Release Date: 25/1/05 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers and BBS
Derek Stewart wrote: Hi, The MAKE_DIR command first appeared for the Miracle Hard drive, whic was the fisrt stable hard drive system for the QL, as I ran a BBS on a 40Mb Miracle Hard Drive for a long time. Maybe the command to make hard directories was incorporated in the Trump card Toolkit 2 rom, but it did notreally work on floppy drives... well the one I had. It was not till the Gold Card appeared, that I had a hard directory system on floppy disks. My trump card user manual which came with my gold card (see previous posting) gives a TKII update record up to V 2.13. It also has a disk (firmware) update record which goes to V1.21 (included RAM disk v1.03 AT v1.17). The manual cover the use of RAM disks and in the keyword list it includes DUP DDOWN, but not MK_DIR, so it seems fairly conclusive to me that the version of the Trump Card covered did not include either the keyword, or the level 2 drivers. I agree that both were available on the GC though. Jeremy -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.4 - Release Date: 25/1/05 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers
snip I think it is too... and informative :-P I won't bore you with all the various misspellings of my name. The best one I suppose, was a letter starting "Dear Mr Services," Now THAT is funny :-) even funnier if they had presumed a few Christian names - Motorway, Emergency, Special or perhaps Shed Erecting (;-) All the best - Bill -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 19/01/05 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers
ÎÎÎ Thu, 27 Jan 2005 19:16:45 +,Î(Î) Dear Mr. Services :-) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ÎÎÏÎÏÎ/wrote: If you do not comprehend what is written in English there is no need to apply your own special misinterpretation an be so damned rude about it. I don't think he is being rude at all. I assume that he's referring to my statement: "Actually your statement doesn't even make sense (as it would if you were to change drives via DUP/DDOWN ie you... " althought that is a little hard to understand since he's quoting my "BTW: " line at the end. In any case I still do not understand where I was rude... but if I were I apologise anyway :-) He is imply responding to us not understanding Greek and mosspilling his name. I know he understands English better than we understand Greek. Sometimes ;-) hehe Regardless... if it were for what you mention (ie the Ffibys spelling) then I retract my apology ;-) To all who remember I adopted Dilwyn's tranliteration both as a joke and as a statement. I could always of course (to anyone that does not like Welsh) respond simply in Greek heehee I thought it was funny BTW. I think it is too... and informative :-P I won't bore you with all the various misspellings of my name. The best one I suppose, was a letter starting "Dear Mr Services," Now THAT is funny :-) (Look also at amended head of email;-) ) Tony Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 at 18:56:59, David Tubbs wrote: (ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) >At 19:59 26/01/2005 -0500, you wrote: > >>BTW after a small illness I am back (and back from Greece as well) :-P >> >> >>Ffibys Doughcause * > >If you do not comprehend what is written in English there is no need to >apply your own special misinterpretation an be so damned rude about it. I don't think he is being rude at all. He is imply responding to us not understanding Greek and mosspilling his name. I know he understands English better than we understand Greek. I thought it was funny BTW. I won't bore you with all the various misspellings of my name. The best one I suppose, was a letter starting "Dear Mr Services," Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers
At 19:59 26/01/2005 -0500, you wrote: BTW after a small illness I am back (and back from Greece as well) :-P Ffibys Doughcause * If you do not comprehend what is written in English there is no need to apply your own special misinterpretation an be so damned rude about it. DT * Bread because ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers and BBS
Hi, The MAKE_DIR command first appeared for the Miracle Hard drive, whic was the fisrt stable hard drive system for the QL, as I ran a BBS on a 40Mb Miracle Hard Drive for a long time. Maybe the command to make hard directories was incorporated in the Trump card Toolkit 2 rom, but it did notreally work on floppy drives... well the one I had. It was not till the Gold Card appeared, that I had a hard directory system on floppy disks. This seems a long time ago, running a BBS on on 768K Trump card with 40Mb hard drive, Qconnect, Amstrad SM2400 modem and Qbox BBS software. Apart from the over run problems in the Qconnect, it all seemd to work... then Pbox, Qubide, Hermes and USR Courier modem made the system so much faster. I still ike the idea of a BBS system, but I think maybe an Internet BBS would be a good idea. Do you think it would be worth the effort translating the BBS system to an Internet web site. Derek - Original Message - From: "Phoebus Dokos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 12:59 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers ??? Thu, 27 Jan 2005 00:00:36 +,?(?) David Tubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ??/wrote: At 16:48 26/01/2005 +, you wrote: MAKE_DIR was introduced not in a Toolkit 2 version (IIRC), but first appeared in the plug in replacement chip for the Trump Card. I therefore doubt that there is a Toolkit 2 image anywhere which contains the right code. I do have a copy of v2.12 ROM file which can be used with emulators, but again this cannot understand level 2 directories -- Rich Mellor It occurs to me you are looking for oranges in a bag of apples. DUP +DDOWN (TKII) were for navigating mdv's, I imagine MAK_DIR is needed for HDD's, certainly as a parallel to the DOS command. DUP and DDOWN is to navigate directories not MDVs ie if the MDV device has subdirectories it can navigate them as well. Actually your statement doesn't even make sense (as it would if you were to change drives via DUP/DDOWN ie you are on MDV1 and DUP will take you to MDV2 (which is not what happens anyway). MAKE_DIR applies to whichever device has Level 2 drivers. Floppies do for example and the RomDISQ does as TT's RAM disk... (so it is not only HDDs as you wrongly assume) BTW after a small illness I am back (and back from Greece as well) :-P Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers
ÎÎÎ Thu, 27 Jan 2005 00:00:36 +,Î(Î) David Tubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ÎÎÏÎÏÎ/wrote: At 16:48 26/01/2005 +, you wrote: MAKE_DIR was introduced not in a Toolkit 2 version (IIRC), but first appeared in the plug in replacement chip for the Trump Card. I therefore doubt that there is a Toolkit 2 image anywhere which contains the right code. I do have a copy of v2.12 ROM file which can be used with emulators, but again this cannot understand level 2 directories -- Rich Mellor It occurs to me you are looking for oranges in a bag of apples. DUP +DDOWN (TKII) were for navigating mdv's, I imagine MAK_DIR is needed for HDD's, certainly as a parallel to the DOS command. DUP and DDOWN is to navigate directories not MDVs ie if the MDV device has subdirectories it can navigate them as well. Actually your statement doesn't even make sense (as it would if you were to change drives via DUP/DDOWN ie you are on MDV1 and DUP will take you to MDV2 (which is not what happens anyway). MAKE_DIR applies to whichever device has Level 2 drivers. Floppies do for example and the RomDISQ does as TT's RAM disk... (so it is not only HDDs as you wrongly assume) BTW after a small illness I am back (and back from Greece as well) :-P Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers
At 16:48 26/01/2005 +, you wrote: MAKE_DIR was introduced not in a Toolkit 2 version (IIRC), but first appeared in the plug in replacement chip for the Trump Card. I therefore doubt that there is a Toolkit 2 image anywhere which contains the right code. I do have a copy of v2.12 ROM file which can be used with emulators, but again this cannot understand level 2 directories -- Rich Mellor It occurs to me you are looking for oranges in a bag of apples. DUP +DDOWN (TKII) were for navigating mdv's, I imagine MAK_DIR is needed for HDD's, certainly as a parallel to the DOS command. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm