Tue, 15 Feb 2005 15:07:04 +0100,() Norman Dunbar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote:
I was reading the archives and noticed that Rich Mellor was after a copy
of my BlackHole device driver - the one which 'does nothing' as someone
succinctly put it - and I was wondering if he (Rich) had managed to
Phoebus Dokos wrote:
Actually it is my belief that it should be part of the OS (as a nul device
like most OSes have)
Erm, what's wrong with SMSQ/E's NUL device?
Marcel
___
QL-Users Mailing List
http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Phoebus Dokos wrote:
One thing I can say about BlackHole is that it is extremely useful for
debugging or for silencing output especially with c68 compiled
programs (the ones with standard output ;-) )
Actually it is my belief that it should be part of the OS (as a nul
device like most OSes
Marcel Kilgus wrote:
Phoebus Dokos wrote:
Actually it is my belief that it should be part of the OS (as a nul device
like most OSes have)
Erm, what's wrong with SMSQ/E's NUL device?
Marcel
___
QL-Users Mailing List
http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Hi all,
there is a new beta version of the Printer Control Program (formerly known as
Proforma printe) on my website.
Thanks to P. Witte's extensive testing, this is now close to release, once I
implement one or two more features.
Please test it let me know.
Wolfgang
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 10:53:04 +0100, Wolfgang Lenerz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
there is a new beta version of the Printer Control Program (formerly
known as
Proforma printe) on my website.
Thanks to P. Witte's extensive testing, this is now close to release,
once I
implement one or
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wolfgang Lenerz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
SNIP
This is a real beta version, meaning that I hope to have most bugs out, the
doc is in sync with the facilities and it *should* now work with Qdos, which
doesn't have named pipes. That aspect is not testes (yet).
I am sure
On 3 Dec 2004 at 21:58, Duncan Neithercut wrote:
the GUI - I find that it does not list all printer drivers
correctly -
loses first the one so passes the driver ID one position out of
step to the filter. I only have 6 installed only the Epson stylus
ones.
Ooops, yes, done.
Also the
Phoebus Dokos wrote:
Thu, 02 Dec 2004 21:30:41 +0100,() Wolfgang Lenerz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote:
Phoebus () - I want to see who can decode this one :-)
Both and are OK on Thunderbird e-mail, but why is
Phoibos all in caps - is his name engraved in stone? AND why is Thu ?
Looks
Fri, 03 Dec 2004 11:27:38 +0100,() Tony Tebby
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote:
Phoebus Dokos wrote:
Thu, 02 Dec 2004 21:30:41 +0100,() Wolfgang Lenerz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote:
Phoebus () - I want to see who can decode this one :-)
Both and are OK on Thunderbird e-mail, but why is
Phoibos
No. Both remain selected so its
difficult to know what is selected.
Duncan Neithercut
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Wolfgang
Lenerz
Sent: 01 December 2004 19:29
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter
Hi all,
work
On 3 Dec 2004 at 21:58, Duncan Neithercut wrote:
Hi,
the GUI - I find that it does not list all printer drivers
correctly -
loses first the one so passes the driver ID one position out of
step to the filter. I only have 6 installed only the Epson stylus
ones.
Also the radio button Yes
On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 21:58:46 -, Duncan Neithercut
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
the GUI - I find that it does not list all printer drivers
correctly -
loses first the one so passes the driver ID one position out of
step to the filter. I only have 6 installed only the Epson stylus
ones.
Also
Is there an easy way of finding out what characters a font supports??
You could try 'ProWesS Fonts Utilities'.
Or for those using only Proforma, not ProWesS, the older SHOWPFF or whatever
the font viewing utility was called (supplied with pre-ProWesS Line Designs)
Dilwyn Jones
On 1 Dec 2004 at 23:22, Joachim Van der Auwera wrote:
Wolfgang Lenerz wrote:
- font to be used (doesn't make that much sense, it should probably be a
monspaced font, there is only one, courrier).
I distincly remember spending a lot of time manually creating a simple
font, I think it
Thu, 02 Dec 2004 21:30:41 +0100,() Wolfgang Lenerz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote:
On 1 Dec 2004 at 23:22, Joachim Van der Auwera wrote:
Wolfgang Lenerz wrote:
- font to be used (doesn't make that much sense, it should probably
be a
monspaced font, there is only one, courrier).
I distincly
Hi all,
work on the Proforma printing suite continues.
There is a new version on my website. This now contains the PFF device
which, hopefully, is close to completion, pending bug fixes of the bugs you
will find...
Anyway, it will now call up a (configurable) file or (configurable)
Hi all,
work on the Proforma printing suite continues.
There is a new version on my website. This now contains the PFF device
which, hopefully, is close to completion, pending bug fixes of the bugs you
will find...
Anyway, it will now call up a (configurable) file or (configurable)
- font to be used (doesn't make that much sense, it should probably
be a
monspaced font, there is only one, courrier).
What else can you think of?
Wolfgang
It might make sense if someone chooses to convert another monospaced
font at some point.
Well done for all the work you've put into
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 20:36:50 -, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
cut
It might make sense if someone chooses to convert another monospaced
font at some point.
Yes possibly... Might also want to provide an option in the GUI to select
the output colour !!
Well done for all the work you've
Wolfgang Lenerz wrote:
- font to be used (doesn't make that much sense, it should probably be a
monspaced font, there is only one, courrier).
I distincly remember spending a lot of time manually creating a simple
font, I think it was either called complete or builtin. Then
intention was to
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 23:22:16 +0100, Joachim Van der Auwera
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wolfgang Lenerz wrote:
- font to be used (doesn't make that much sense, it should probably be
a monspaced font, there is only one, courrier).
I distincly remember spending a lot of time manually creating a
Rich Mellor wrote:
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 23:22:16 +0100, Joachim Van der Auwera
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wolfgang Lenerz wrote:
- font to be used (doesn't make that much sense, it should probably
be a monspaced font, there is only one, courrier).
I distincly remember spending a lot of time
Hmm - just thought - if you allow for C strings, you need to ensure that
the character BEFORE the SER or PAR is not another letter, eg we could
replace a prompt: Print to (SER), but not You are a loser (both would
end with byte 0.
And yes, Joachim is correct - you do also need to be
Per Witte wrote:
Please keep talking!
:-)
Sadly, neither of the above will work as described in /this/ case
as, as someone already pointed out, the trap stores the calling
job's PC, and the matching rte scribbles over any PC value set in
the JCB (blithly supported by the scheduler).
I
Do all programs have a word length counter before the device name or
do some have a byte length one? And any programs known to use a device
name delimited by LF or whatever rather than the internal format with
length word/byte?
Good question - normally a word length. What about
On 27 Nov 2004 at 19:12, P Witte wrote:
At least the latter is not impossible.
Whats the workaround? The Open call exits via the scheduler.
Not the way I do it - I just call the open routines of the different device
drivers directly
Anyway, didn't the ancient PRT
device back then
I think that Wolfgang has put together an excellent proposal here which is
obviously very well thought out in the light of previous discussions.
Having given this problem some considerable thought myself, I do think
that Wolfgang's solution has some definite positive aspects, not least of
]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich
Mellor
Sent: 28 November 2004 12:57
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter
I think that Wolfgang has put together an excellent proposal here
which is
obviously very well thought out in the light of previous discussions.
Having given
Wolfgang Lenerz wrote:
Anyway, let me all know what you think of the above scheme, knowing
that I
could continue developemnt on the PF GUI and the PFF to implement all
of what
I have mentioned above.
Wow, Wolfgang, great work. I have to admit that your scheme sounds much
more sensible than
Joachim Van der Auwera writes:
Please remember, PROforma exists, has existed for almost ten years now
I installed ProWesS some years ago, but never really used it very often,
because what I always liked about the QL was its simplicity and efficiency.
This is in no way a critism of ProWesS,
Depends - someone might at some stage develop a program which can
output
both text and graphics.. I think there was an old utility which
already
could do this from a Quill DOC file - am thinking back to CGH
Services
days (late 80s)
Surely it would make more sense to send everything as
, November 27, 2004 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter
cut
Depends - someone might at some stage develop a program which can
output
both text and graphics.. I think there was an old utility which
already
could do this from a Quill DOC file - am thinking back to CGH
Services
PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter
On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 14:08:14 -, Duncan Neithercut
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Rich,
Whats wrong with a back ground job started at boot with low priority
as the intermediate.
Didn't say there was anything wrong with this - it sounded quite a
good
At 19:49 28/11/2004 +, you wrote:
Duncan - what has happened to your formatting?? Also, please don't
quote
the whole of an email - just the relevent parts as it makes it awkward
to
read.
For some reason your quoted text is coming thru unmarked - really hard to
tell what is new, or in this
Dilwyn Jones wrote:
The Filter is in effect a partial printer emulator. What you print
from
Quill, S*Basic, or Easel, etc, via a device (Ser, Par, etc) with or
without
printer drivers (printer_dat, gprt_dat) is what the Filter responds
to. But
instead of converting the incoming data into
Wolfgang Lenerz wrote:
The FILTER
===
Nice work there. Much more reasonable than most things that have been
floating around lately.
Marcel has pointed out on this list that the old PRTBUF device would
be suitable, however I feel this is not the case since that can only
send output
P Witte wrote:
In connection with the printer project, I wanted to run Proforma, but
couldnt get it to work,
Best way is either install ProWesS (make a copy of your boot and let the
program rip), or else you could simply have a look at the boot file on
the disk. It should IIRC be quite well
On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 21:01:26 -, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
cut
The filter only needs to respond to two different types of output:
ESC/P2
(for example, as this was the most commonly available and emulated
printer
in the QL's heyday) and, as a concession to Linedesign users, output
Rich Mellor wrote:
On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 21:01:26 -, Dilwyn Jones
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do all programs have a word length counter before the device name or
do some have a byte length one? And any programs known to use a device
name delimited by LF or whatever rather than the internal
John Hall writes:
John Hall wrote:
John Hall wrote:
I think you'll find that the JCB is only updated when a task
switch occurs...
When a TRAP#n is executed, the PC and SP are saved on the
supervisor stack, hence WL's earlier comment...
Oops! PC and SR, of course :-)
P Witte wrote:
The problem I was trying to solve relates to the fact that drivers cant
start jobs or open channels,
At least the latter is not impossible. Anyway, didn't the ancient PRT
device back then already solve most problems discussed here.
Marcel
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 13:06:10 +0100, Wolfgang Lenerz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
I've put the new version of the Proforma Ascii filter on my website.
This now includes the PFF device. (very primitive - for the time being
(?).
Please RTM.
As usual at:
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 17:00:24 +0100, Marcel Kilgus
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
P Witte wrote:
The problem I was trying to solve relates to the fact that drivers cant
start jobs or open channels,
At least the latter is not impossible. Anyway, didn't the ancient PRT
device back then already solve most
On 27 Nov 2004 at 16:02, Rich Mellor wrote:
Trouble is we need to foresee that not everyone will think to swap the
printer driver over.
No. If they don't swap - too bad for them.
If we can support it - why not I am happy to assist with writing the
programs, I don't expect it to all
Remember, each different GDI printer needs its own driver...
I have mentioned this so many times. ProForma as it stands will only
print to printers for which it has drivers and there are no ESC/P raster
drivers. The cheap printers have no emulations. Even the expensive
printers often have
Rich Mellor wrote:
On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 20:43:29 +0100, Wolfgang Lenerz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 25 Nov 2004 at 18:46, Rich Mellor wrote:
Just add a graphics filter. I'll let this stand as is.
I have no idea how easy it is to pass a PIC file to Proforma - Joachim??
Great to know that
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 01:33:47 -, P Witte [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Wolfgang Lenerz writes:
To to this within the device driver will be a non trivial task
because
you
wil have to open a filing system channel from withing the open call
of
a non
filing system device driver.
That's what
I have no idea how easy it is to pass a PIC file to Proforma - Joachim??
Great to know that PROforma has existsed for (I think) close to ten
years now, and still hardly anybody knows anything about it :-(
The term is more like knew rather than knows. I probably have forgotten
more about it
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 11:46:04 +0100, Joachim Van der Auwera
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rich Mellor wrote:
Trouble is Per, that you cannot do all this within a device driver
because it is running in supervisor mode.
I also understand that a non-directory device cannot open a channel to
a file
Rich Mellor wrote:
Does anyone have some source code I could look at for creating THINGs and
using them?? Need more than a simple example I guess - would of course
not disclose it to anyone without permission if it is for a commercial
product
1) Have a look at Jochen's THING articles
On 26 Nov 2004 at 1:33, P Witte wrote:
(...)
On the Open call the PFF device driver's primary functions are
decode the name
check the details
set up and configure a channel definition block
yes, indeed!
If all of the above are ok then, on exiting,
set the calling job's
On 25 Nov 2004 at 20:44, Rich Mellor wrote:
The trouble is locating them - if these printers are so readily available
at low prices, then what exactly are we developing this for as the QL can
already output PCL 3 (just not the later versions).
Well all I (innocently) did to get this started
On 26 Nov 2004 at 10:10, Rich Mellor wrote:
(...)
I wonder why it will not print from QPC2. ??
Me too!
If the same printer prints from the Q60, QPC should be able to handle it,
too.
Unless it's the way the printer port is set up in your bios (ECP EPP and
whatnot)
?
Wolfgang
On 26 Nov 2004 at 11:46, Joachim Van der Auwera wrote:
As the thing will be called in supervisor mode itself, it could just
keep track of some ready for use channels which are then passed to the
device driver when needed. Then the problem is fully solved. The thing
itself checks whether
Rich Mellor writes:
Or skip the Thing altogether and make its fuctionality part of the PFF
device driver:
On the Open call the PFF device driver's primary functions are
decode the name
check the details
set up and configure a channel definition block
If all of the
Rich Mellor writes:
Hmm - still hoping someone will put themselves forward to look at writing
the THING
Does anyone have some source code I could look at for creating THINGs and
using them?? Need more than a simple example I guess - would of course
not disclose it to anyone without
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 13:54:49 +0100, Wolfgang Lenerz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 25 Nov 2004 at 20:44, Rich Mellor wrote:
The trouble is locating them - if these printers are so readily
available
at low prices, then what exactly are we developing this for as the QL
can
already output PCL 3
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 14:12:46 +0100, Wolfgang Lenerz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 26 Nov 2004 at 11:46, Joachim Van der Auwera wrote:
As the thing will be called in supervisor mode itself, it could just
keep track of some ready for use channels which are then passed to the
device driver when
P Witte wrote:
Rich Mellor writes:
Hmm - still hoping someone will put themselves forward to look at writing
the THING
Does anyone have some source code I could look at for creating THINGs and
using them?? Need more than a simple example I guess - would of course
not disclose it to anyone
Joachim Van der Auwera writes:
A device driver can never setup a job.
You didnt read my algorithm: It doesnt. All it does is to CAUSE the
calling
job to do that. This is an accepted tequnique in Qdos.
Don't think so. I would like to know the details about how that would be
done.
How
Wolfgang Lenerz wrote:
I wonder why it will not print from QPC2. ??
Me too!
If the same printer prints from the Q60, QPC should be able to handle it,
too.
Unless it's the way the printer port is set up in your bios (ECP EPP and
whatnot)?
USB vs parallel connection? Just my guess.
John Hall wrote:
I think you'll find that the JCB is only updated when a task switch
occurs...
When a TRAP#n is executed, the PC and SP are saved on the
supervisor stack, hence WL's earlier comment...
Oops! PC and SR, of course :-)
In supervisor mode, the job's SP is in the USP...
Now I
- Original Message -
From: Rich Mellor
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter
Peter Graf is work on network drivers for the Qx0. What happens if an
application crashes while printing, is the PFF device block from further
use.
Glad to hear
On 26 Nov 2004 at 13:27, Rich Mellor wrote:
(...)
Best option is to throw some files at the filter once it is running on a
wide number of setups.
Everyone uses different translates where one character in Quill is
translated to various printer control codes, eg. to use italics, get both
the
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004, gwicks wrote:
If you want information from Peter, why don't you email him privately? I had
an extensive correspondence with him over QL2004 without any problems.
I have always found Peter to speak his own mind. He is always willing to
talk by email. I got off to a very
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wolfgang Lenerz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Me too!
If the same printer prints from the Q60, QPC should be able to handle it,
too.
Unless it's the way the printer port is set up in your bios (ECP EPP and
whatnot)
Tried all that. It prints fine from the PC and fine from
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Marcel Kilgus
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
USB vs parallel connection? Just my guess.
Nope. We tied that. See other posts
--
Roy Wood
Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB
Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501
web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 13:40:57 -0600 (CST), Dave P [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004, gwicks wrote:
If you want information from Peter, why don't you email him privately?
I had
an extensive correspondence with him over QL2004 without any problems.
I have always found Peter to speak
in market research? :- ))
Duncan Neithercut
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of gwicks
Sent: 25 November 2004 21:24
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter
- Original Message -
From: Rich Mellor
Sent: Thursday
] Proforma Filter
- Original Message -
From: Rich Mellor
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter
Peter Graf is work on network drivers for the Qx0. What happens if an
application crashes while printing, is the PFF device block from further
Hi think that I saw Marcel ask this but if not:
Lets say that we come up with a way to print to a modern printer. But
don't all the printers use USB now? How would they connect to the
non-QPC QLs (or QPC on older computers without USB)?
Cheers,
jim
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 12:49:40 -0800, James Hunkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi think that I saw Marcel ask this but if not:
Lets say that we come up with a way to print to a modern printer. But
don't all the printers use USB now? How would they connect to the
non-QPC QLs (or QPC on older
On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 at 21:23:49, gwicks wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
- Original Message - From: Rich Mellor
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter
Yes, the survey MAY shed some light on the subject - however, what's
the betting
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 21:43:33 +, Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 at 21:23:49, gwicks wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
- Original Message - From: Rich Mellor
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter
Yes
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 21:32:50 -, John Hall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John Hall wrote:
John Hall wrote:
I think you'll find that the JCB is only updated when a task
switch occurs...
When a TRAP#n is executed, the PC and SP are saved on the
supervisor stack, hence WL's earlier comment...
- Original Message -
From: Rich Mellor
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter
Fair enough, but all I want is for him to post a message to the mailing
list or even one of the magazines, letting us know what developments are
happening every now
, November 25, 2004 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter
Yes, the survey MAY shed some light on the subject - however, what's
the betting that we get no more than 40 replies.
What's wrong with 40 replies? It may surprise you but a lot of
professional market research uses samples
Yes, even Quill should be able to write to PFF as long as you enter it as
'_PFF' in the printing dialogue if it won't accept just PFF. Quill can even
accommodate unusual names like _n1_PAR for printing IIRC.
Shouldn't be too difficult to write a program which looks for and automatically
Rich Mellor wrote:
Wouldnt it be better for the filter Thing to run the filters as and when
needed? Less resource hungry and could possibly simplify the filters
themselves?
Possibly - however, the problem (as always) lies in the FILTER THING
knowing where the various filters are located in order
Wolfgang Lenerz wrote:
For the tilme being, I'll amend my filter prog so that it expects input from
the pipe. When there is no more, the job will just hang.
I hope you mean sleep :-)
A question: do people really want to have several filter jobs in the machien
at the same tile, i.e. have output
Rich Mellor wrote:
OK - good news - but does this mean that QDOS Classic will not work - I
seem to recall that QDOS Classic does not support the pointer
environment, though I could be wrong
I am not sure PROforma will run without ptr_gen (I am pretty sure it
needs hot_rext).
Hmm - didn't
Wolfgang Lenerz wrote:
On 24 Nov 2004 at 20:21, Rich Mellor wrote:
OK that should fit on a Trump Card, especially if the FILTER THING can
give the device driver the option of sending the output to a file instead
of a pipe.
To to this within the device driver will be a non trivial task because
On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 14:11:19 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, even Quill should be able to write to PFF as long as you enter it
as '_PFF' in the printing dialogue if it won't accept just PFF. Quill
can even accommodate unusual names like _n1_PAR for printing IIRC.
Shouldn't be too difficult
I am glad to see that this has at least inspired some interest and
hopefully we will see the beginnings of some work towards an actual
product - although we still have no confirmation that Proforms can output
to a Windows only printer - if not, we may be in trouble. Surely someone
has access
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 21:00:25 -, Duncan Neithercut
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Also willing to help out :
Have you thought of starting with the source code of Norman
Dunbars Black_Hole device publised in QLToday 1996
Duncan Neithercut
Anyone got a copy please??
--
Rich Mellor
RWAP Services
26
-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich
Mellor
Sent: 25 November 2004 16:06
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 21:00:25 -, Duncan Neithercut
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Also willing to help out :
Have you thought
On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 at 15:52:10, Rich Mellor wrote:
(ref:
[EMAIL PROTECTED])
1) Some programs on the QL only allow you to print to ser1 or PAR and
do not allow you to send data to a file.
2) It is more user friendly to have a printing process which is
invisible to the user. If the user has to
Like SPLF tk2 ?
-Message d'origine-
De : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Rich
Mellor
Envoyé : jeudi 25 novembre 2004 16:52
À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Objet : Re: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter
(...)
Joachim then identified a third problem if we are to use a PFF device
On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 17:48:32 +0100, Wolfgang Lenerz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 25 Nov 2004 at 16:09, Joachim Van der Auwera wrote:
Wolfgang Lenerz wrote:
On 24 Nov 2004 at 20:21, Rich Mellor wrote:
OK that should fit on a Trump Card, especially if the FILTER THING can
give the device driver
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rich Mellor wrote:
Finally, the other problem to be addressed is how the QL will communicate
with the printer. Admittedly more and more printers have USB only
connection which means that they currently cannot be connected to a native
QL or the Qx0. However,
On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 17:48:32 +0100, Wolfgang Lenerz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 25 Nov 2004 at 15:52, Rich Mellor wrote:
I am glad to see that this has at least inspired some interest and
hopefully we will see the beginnings of some work towards an actual
product - although we still have no
On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 18:33:16 GMT, Tarquin Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
In message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rich Mellor wrote:
Finally, the other problem to be addressed is how the QL will
communicate
with the printer. Admittedly more and more printers have USB only
connection which means that they
On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 at 18:51:31, Rich Mellor wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
use the later versions of SMSQ/e).
With such a small community, any divisions and arguments about Quanta
are just more reason for people to forget about the QL entirely. We
should all strive to work together, even if
Try telling Norman Dunbar nothing happens with his software!
;o)
Dilwyn Jones
Its on Dilwyn Jones PD CDROM
If you dont have that let me know I can zip you a copy.
All it does its create a device to which you can send
print output. Does nothing with it.
Tested it last night on QPC2 with QD
On 25 Nov 2004 at 18:46, Rich Mellor wrote:
If Proforma cannot output to these printers - is there much point in
persuing this further as people will still be struggling to find printers
which are compatible with the QL...
I disagree (again...).
I'd never buy a GDI printer, and there are
Wolfgang Lenerz wrote:
On 25 Nov 2004 at 16:09, Joachim Van der Auwera wrote:
Wolfgang Lenerz wrote:
On 24 Nov 2004 at 20:21, Rich Mellor wrote:
To to this within the device driver will be a non trivial task because you
wil have to open a filing system channel from withing the open call of a non
On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 20:43:29 +0100, Wolfgang Lenerz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 25 Nov 2004 at 18:46, Rich Mellor wrote:
If Proforma cannot output to these printers - is there much point in
persuing this further as people will still be struggling to find
printers
which are compatible with the
Well , if one told me what these were, I'd probably have done it
already...
Have a look at the standard Quill output for starters - Dilwyn will
have a
copy of the complete Epson ESC/P programming manual somewhere for
download, but it is large. Text87 output is a lot more troublesome
as it
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wolfgang Lenerz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
On 25 Nov 2004 at 15:52, Rich Mellor wrote:
I am glad to see that this has at least inspired some interest and
hopefully we will see the beginnings of some work towards an actual
product - although we still have no
1 - 100 of 164 matches
Mail list logo
