Re: [Ql-Users] EasyMenu

[François Van Emelen via Ql-Users]

Op 3/04/2019 om 23:52 schreef Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users:

During the German ZX meeting that has become some sort of last refuge
for us QL fans, too, a new EasyMenu was created, fixing a small bug
that resulted in long startup time on the Q68. I don't think the bug
has other ill effects, but updating certainly will not do any harm:

https://www.kilgus.net/smsqe/easyptr/

Marcel

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thanks.

François Van Emelen



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Re: [Ql-Users] EasyMenu

[Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users]

Derek wrote:
> EasyMenu has always been slow to startup on all QL platforms.

It takes about 2 seconds on an unexpanded Minerva QL, so I wouldn't
say this was generally the case.

It took 20 seconds or so on a Q68, which was not the Q68's fault at
all but a mere coincidence.

All the best, Marcel

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Re: [Ql-Users] EasyMenu

[Derek via Ql-Users]

Hi Marcel,

EasyMenu has always been slow to startup on all QL platforms.

I thank you for the bug fix.

Regards,

Derek

On 3 April 2019 22:52:04 BST, Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users 
 wrote:
>During the German ZX meeting that has become some sort of last refuge
>for us QL fans, too, a new EasyMenu was created, fixing a small bug
>that resulted in long startup time on the Q68. I don't think the bug
>has other ill effects, but updating certainly will not do any harm:
>
>https://www.kilgus.net/smsqe/easyptr/
>
>Marcel
>
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Re: [Ql-Users] EasyMenu

[Giorgio Garabello via Ql-Users]

No, it's freeware


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2018-03-07 11:27 GMT+01:00 simon629--- via Ql-Users <
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> Hi everyone can you help me is EasyMenu still payware OK Thanks
>
> simon629Simon Foster
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Re: [Ql-Users] EasyMenu

[simon629--- via Ql-Users]

Hi everyone can you help me is EasyMenu still payware OK Thanks 

simon629Simon Foster
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Re: [Ql-Users] EASYMENU - Not so easy!

[Dilwyn Jones]

This is an outside chance only,. to be thught of a a last resort.

Have you resized any component such as an inf window containing a text 
object without first resizing the text bject? The error meesage you see is 
not what i would expect in this case, but i have had this happen that i 
resized something and it either fails to load, or laded but only displaying 
items up the point of error.


With specialist knowledge it might be possible to patch such things, but 
this is definitely not a job for the inexperienced. As Marcel suggested 
defining a new menu from scratch might actually  be quicker than hunting for 
vague errors like this.


(apologies for typos, i have a problem with this keyboard)

Dilwyn

-Original Message- 
From: John Gilpin

Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 6:04 PM
To: ql-users
Subject: [Ql-Users] EASYMENU - Not so easy!

Some weeks ago, I asked if anyone could assist me with a problem I am
having, - The menu I developed about a year ago in EasyMenu, will not go
back into the programme giving an error report - "Menu file is too big
to go into the available Work Space! Press any Key.

The only suggestion I had was to try using MenuConfig on the EASYMENU
programme and make the Work Space as large as it will go. I have done
this but the only options available in MenuConfig for Work Space are:-
"none"  "small" and "big". Having tried all three options, I am still
unable to get the menu file back into the prog so that I can edit it.

My only solution seems to be to develop the Menu again - What a bind!!

Has anyone got any serious answers and/or suggestions?

Thanks in anticipation.:-[

Kind Regards,

John Gilpin.
QUANTA Membership Secretary
and QUANTA Treasurer
membership @quanta.org.uk
treasurer @quanta.org.uk

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Re: [Ql-Users] EASYMENU - Not so easy!

[Bob Spelten]

Op Mon, 09 May 2016 19:04:06 +0200 schreef John Gilpin  
:


Some weeks ago, I asked if anyone could assist me with a problem I am  
having, - The menu I developed about a year ago in EasyMenu, will not go  
back into the programme giving an error report - "Menu file is too big  
to go into the available Work Space! Press any Key.


The only suggestion I had was to try using MenuConfig on the EASYMENU  
programme and make the Work Space as large as it will go. I have done  
this but the only options available in MenuConfig for Work Space are:-   
"none"  "small" and "big". Having tried all three options, I am still  
unable to get the menu file back into the prog so that I can edit it.


My only solution seems to be to develop the Menu again - What a bind!!

Has anyone got any serious answers and/or suggestions?

Thanks in anticipation.:-[

In your original email you said to be working with EasyPTR4 but the  
options "big, small, none" are for EasyMenu v3 and not v4.

So trying to fit a v4 menu into a v3 EasyMenu may not be a good thing.
In v4 you can specify width and height up to 4096 (as Francois suggested)  
although I am not sure what happens if you config more than the screen  
allows, probably v4 addapts.



Bob

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Re: [Ql-Users] EASYMENU - Not so easy!

[Timothy Swenson]

John,

Here is a couple of suggestions that I have:

1.  Try EasyMenu in a different environment.  If running on a BBQL, try 
it with QPCII or SMSQmulator.  You might be different behavior.


2.  Post the menu file somewhere and see if someone else can reproduce 
the problem.


Tim Swenson
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Re: [Ql-Users] EASYMENU - Not so easy!

[Marcel Kilgus]

John Gilpin wrote:
> Some weeks ago, I asked if anyone could assist me with a problem I am 
> having, - The menu I developed about a year ago in EasyMenu, will not go
> back into the programme giving an error report - "Menu file is too big
> to go into the available Work Space! Press any Key.

Send me the file. But no promises, properly debugging this probably
takes more time than recreating the menu from scratch, but I'll have a
quick look nonetheless.

Marcel

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[Ql-Users] EASYMENU - Not so easy!

[John Gilpin]

Some weeks ago, I asked if anyone could assist me with a problem I am 
having, - The menu I developed about a year ago in EasyMenu, will not go 
back into the programme giving an error report - "Menu file is too big 
to go into the available Work Space! Press any Key.


The only suggestion I had was to try using MenuConfig on the EASYMENU 
programme and make the Work Space as large as it will go. I have done 
this but the only options available in MenuConfig for Work Space are:-  
"none"  "small" and "big". Having tried all three options, I am still 
unable to get the menu file back into the prog so that I can edit it.


My only solution seems to be to develop the Menu again - What a bind!!

Has anyone got any serious answers and/or suggestions?

Thanks in anticipation.:-[

Kind Regards,

John Gilpin.
QUANTA Membership Secretary
and QUANTA Treasurer
membership @quanta.org.uk
treasurer @quanta.org.uk

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Re: [ql-users] Easymenu menus

[Dilwyn Jones]

DetectTitle% only seems to appear at the start of the file, though I 
guess I could add something like

IF DetectTitle%=0 THEN RETurn 0

or

IF DetectTitle%=0 THEN BarDetected% = 0

in the relevant places. Doesn't worry me much, they are easy enough to 
change by hand in Easymenu.


Any possibility of a function in Easymenu to automatically set all 
elements' colours to the selected palette entry number e.g. one click 
would set all outline, info window, info object and application 
windows to the colour palette values for those elements ? That would 
allow an old menu to be be updated quickly and easily and make it much 
easier to convert menus. [Ouch...don't hit me...I was only asking 
:-) ]


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Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Easymenu menus



Dilwyn Jones wrote:

Some blank info windows get converted as titles.


DetectTitle% = 0


Thank you for your help.


You're welcome :-)

Marcel

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Re: [ql-users] Easymenu menus

[Dilwyn Jones]

Dilwyn Jones wrote:

One for the Easymenu users on this list.

Has anyone by any chance written a routine which will patch a 
menu's

original colours with system palette numbers?


Yes, I did something like that for converting existing binaries to 
the

new format. It's probably not good enough for a general release, but
will send it per mail.

Alternatively, if anyone has info on the Easymenu menus format I 
might

have a bash at writing one myself if it is a practical proposition.


Actually there is no Easymenu format. The files consist of a 
normal

Window Definition as described in the QPTR manual, plus a very small
header.

Marcel
Many thanks. I'll tweak the routine to do the simpler job I want of 
it.


Some blank info windows get converted as titles. Doesn't suit my 
easymenu menus, so I'll probably change it a little for my own use. 
Clear enough code even though all the POKE_W commands make it look 
frightening at first. With a bit of help fromt he QPTR guide the 
format is easy enough to follow.


Thank you for your help.

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Re: [ql-users] Easymenu menus

[Marcel Kilgus]

Dilwyn Jones wrote:
 Some blank info windows get converted as titles.

DetectTitle% = 0

 Thank you for your help.

You're welcome :-)

Marcel

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[ql-users] Easymenu menus

[Dilwyn Jones]

One for the Easymenu users on this list.

Has anyone by any chance written a routine which will patch a menu's 
original colours with system palette numbers?


Alternatively, if anyone has info on the Easymenu menus format I might 
have a bash at writing one myself if it is a practical proposition. 
Potential problems might be if colour numbers are stored as bytes in 
the old Easyptr and words in the new system. If the menus carry 
information as to object type, it is probably possible to partly 
automate conversion.


I need to finish converting the Launchpad menus to Wman2 system 
palette and just wondered if soemone might have come up with a method 
of conversion.


Equally, if someone knows it is a non-starter of an idea, let me know 
to help prevent me wasting any time on it!


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Re: [ql-users] Easymenu menus

[Wolfgang Uhlig]

Has anyone by any chance written a routine which will patch a menu's  
original colours with system palette numbers?


I don't quite understand what you mean. Just leave the old colours but  
give them the numbers of

the system palette?
If this is what you mean, I don't see the point. Personally, if I was busy  
with old menus, I'd tend

to give them a new style with a new set of colours anyway.

Wolfgang
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