Re: Infamous internic

1999-08-12 Thread Anand Buddhdev
On Thu, Aug 12, 1999 at 02:12:08AM +, Cris Daniluk wrote: I don't know if people are aware of thi (as I dont know that I've heard it before), but it appears InterNIC users qmail for some or all of their mail, based on email headers which I've viewed. Can anyone else confirm this? If so,

Re: Performance

1999-08-12 Thread craig
just to throw in my 2 cents- We find we need about 15 PCs per 10,000,000 emails shipped daily. This is based on P400s running RH Linux 6, with 128M memory and SCSI drives. However, we do virus scan mail which kind of clouds the throughput issue somewhat. Alex

Quotas

1999-08-12 Thread Dimitri SZAJMAN
Hi, I have a few questions about quotas. - I use qmail for POP account, so the mail of each user is in /home/user/Mailbox. I would like to add a quota of like 10 Mb. How can I do that. Is it easy ? - If the mail received is like 15 Mb, it will be denied. But will it be denied before being sent

ownership of programs that execute in /var/qmail/alias?

1999-08-12 Thread John Conover
As per the "standard" qmail installation for uucp, I have a /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-uucp-default of: '|preline -d /usr/bin/uux - -gC -a"${SENDER:-MAILER-DAEMON}" uucphost!rmail "($DEFAULT@$HOST)"' when there is outgoing email to uucphost, what program executes the uux command, and what is

Alias question...

1999-08-12 Thread Ang Sei Heng
A quick question: Is it possible to convert incoming email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] in qmail? If yes, how? Or... is there any document that discuss this in detail? Thanks, Sei Heng

qmail Digest 12 Aug 1999 10:00:01 -0000 Issue 726

1999-08-12 Thread qmail-digest-help
qmail Digest 12 Aug 1999 10:00:01 - Issue 726 Topics (messages 28838 through 28865): make errors 28838 by: "Mark Sherman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28839 by: "Petr Novotny" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28840 by: "Mark Sherman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28841 by: Van Liedekerke Franky

Re: Alias question...

1999-08-12 Thread Ang Sei Heng
Thank! It work! Sei Heng On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, you wrote: On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Ang Sei Heng wrote: A quick question: Is it possible to convert incoming email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] in qmail? If yes, how? Or... is there any document

Re: Quotas

1999-08-12 Thread Jeff Hayward
On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Sam wrote: - If the mail received is like 15 Mb, it will be denied. But will it be denied before being sent to my SMTP server or after ? After. Unless you set an incoming limit using control/databytes. -- Jeff Hayward

virtual domains+users+IMAP

1999-08-12 Thread Murat Arslan
Hi all, I'm writing a bunch of codes to handle a web-mail gateway service. Everything is ok, but the virtual domains, users and the IMAP parts.. I added somedomain.com to /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts and somedomain.com:guy-some to /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains Sent signal HUP to

Re: Quotas

1999-08-12 Thread Dimitri SZAJMAN
At 07:42 12/08/99 -0500, you wrote: On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Sam wrote: - If the mail received is like 15 Mb, it will be denied. But will it be denied before being sent to my SMTP server or after ? After. Unless you set an incoming limit using control/databytes. in

Re: Infamous internic

1999-08-12 Thread Russell Nelson
Cris Daniluk writes: I don't know if people are aware of thi (as I dont know that I've heard it before), but it appears InterNIC users qmail for some or all of their mail, based on email headers which I've viewed. Can anyone else confirm this? If so, this is a pretty significant qmail

DNS paranoia

1999-08-12 Thread Simon Rae
I'm having a few problems with qmail (1.03 on Linux) returning 5.1.2 errors for mail destined to various sites. This just happens occasionally for hosts/domains which definitely do exist. I'm suspecting it could be due to DNS timeouts while querying our DNS servers due to line traffic. Does this

Re: DNS paranoia

1999-08-12 Thread James Raftery
On Thu, Aug 12, 1999 at 02:15:17PM +0100, Simon Rae wrote: line traffic. Does this sound feasible? Is there anything I can do to remedy this apart from splash out extra cash on a line upgrade (assuming this is the problem)? You (c|s)hould run a nameserver on your qmail machine. It's makes

Re: virtual domains+users+IMAP

1999-08-12 Thread Murat Arslan
On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Murat Arslan wrote: Hi all, I'm writing a bunch of codes to handle a web-mail gateway service. Everything is ok, but the virtual domains, users and the IMAP parts.. I made qmail understand the .qmail-info file. But now it gives the error:

vchkpw + SQL

1999-08-12 Thread Jonathan Herbert
Hi there, I've ran into a strange situation where i'd like to be able to utilize the features of the vhckpw suite (virtualhost multiple domains on a single IP, single UID, etc), but would also like to use a SQL backend for pop password checking, and whatever else. I'm not sure if something of

Re: problems compiling

1999-08-12 Thread James P Kannengieser
Putting /usr/ccs/bin in my path worked well. Thanks for the advice. However, I am having a similar problem further along during the compiling process. Now when I run make setup check, I get this message. ./load auto-str substdio.a error.a str.a /usr/ucb/cc: language optional software package

Re: Infamous internic

1999-08-12 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
Cris Daniluk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on 12 August 1999 at 02:12:08 + I don't know if people are aware of thi (as I dont know that I've heard it before), but it appears InterNIC users qmail for some or all of their mail, based on email headers which I've viewed. Can anyone else confirm

Always, always!

1999-08-12 Thread Russell Nelson
James Raftery writes: On Thu, Aug 12, 1999 at 02:15:17PM +0100, Simon Rae wrote: line traffic. Does this sound feasible? Is there anything I can do to remedy this apart from splash out extra cash on a line upgrade (assuming this is the problem)? You (c|s)hould run a nameserver on

Re: ownership of programs that execute in /var/qmail/alias?

1999-08-12 Thread Russell Nelson
John Conover writes: As per the "standard" qmail installation for uucp, I have a /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-uucp-default of: '|preline -d /usr/bin/uux - -gC -a"${SENDER:-MAILER-DAEMON}" uucphost!rmail "($DEFAULT@$HOST)"' when there is outgoing email to uucphost, what program

Re: vchkpw + SQL

1999-08-12 Thread seafox eng. de software LTDA
Hi... What is your SQL Server?? If is Oracle, i'have a implementation for vchkpw-3.4.1... Regards, Gilberto Bottaro - Original Message - From: Jonathan Herbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 11:38 AM Subject: vchkpw + SQL Hi there, I've

Re: virtual domains+users+IMAP

1999-08-12 Thread Ken Jones
Murat Arslan wrote: Hi all, I'm writing a bunch of codes to handle a web-mail gateway service. Everything is ok, but the virtual domains, users and the IMAP parts.. I added somedomain.com to /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts and somedomain.com:guy-some to /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains

Re: vchkpw + SQL

1999-08-12 Thread Jonathan Herbert
On Thu, Aug 12, 1999 at 11:49:35AM -0300, seafox eng. de software LTDA wrote: Hi... What is your SQL Server?? If is Oracle, i'have a implementation for vchkpw-3.4.1... Actually, i'm using MySQL. I imagine this would add an arguably unnecessary amount of overhead to the entire thing, but

Re: vchkpw + SQL

1999-08-12 Thread Ken Jones
Jonathan Herbert wrote: Hi there, I've ran into a strange situation where i'd like to be able to utilize the features of the vhckpw suite (virtualhost multiple domains on a single IP, single UID, etc), but would also like to use a SQL backend for pop password checking, and whatever

ip based accounting

1999-08-12 Thread Michael Mertel
Hi there, I thought I understand the logging concept of qmail, but it teached me something different. OK, here my wishlist: 1) IP based accounting I need to know which subnet caused how much traffic. The one and only place where I see an IP address is my logfile generated by tcpserver, but

Re: vchkpw + SQL

1999-08-12 Thread Richard Antecki
Wouldn't a centralised auth daemon (a la vmailmgr) be better for this sort of thing? It removes the additional overhead of connecting to the database for each auth request. Another problem is server stability (for the ultra-paranoid). An alternative is to update a db file from the database

Re: vchkpw + SQL

1999-08-12 Thread Jonathan Herbert
On Thu, Aug 12, 1999 at 10:59:54AM -0500, Ken Jones wrote: As it stands, my POP server isn't exactly getting hammered anyhow.. The guy running it said it is faster. Hrm, thats interesting. I've seen strange things with MySQL, things you'd expect to be slow are occasionally fast, and

Re: Quotas

1999-08-12 Thread Sam
Jeff Hayward writes: On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Sam wrote: - If the mail received is like 15 Mb, it will be denied. But will it be denied before being sent to my SMTP server or after ? After. Unless you set an incoming limit using control/databytes. Nope. Your server will

just curious

1999-08-12 Thread Mate Wierdl
Where does a message go if the local part is missing? I did echo |mailsubj "test" '@localhost' and the logs show 1999-08-12 12:15:22.929224 new msg 38769 1999-08-12 12:15:22.929253 info msg 38769: bytes 224 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] qp 5226 uid 500 1999-08-12 12:15:22.932768 starting delivery

Re: Quotas

1999-08-12 Thread Tomasz Papszun
On Thu, 12 Aug 1999 at 14:43:38 +0200, Dimitri SZAJMAN wrote: At 07:42 12/08/99 -0500, you wrote: On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Sam wrote: - If the mail received is like 15 Mb, it will be denied. But will it be denied before being sent to my SMTP server or after ? After. Unless

Re: just curious

1999-08-12 Thread Timothy L. Mayo
On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Mate Wierdl wrote: Where does a message go if the local part is missing? To the bit-bucket. I did echo |mailsubj "test" '@localhost' and the logs show 1999-08-12 12:15:22.929224 new msg 38769 1999-08-12 12:15:22.929253 info msg 38769: bytes 224 from [EMAIL

Re: Always, always!

1999-08-12 Thread Simon Rae
I'm running BIND on the qmail box. It does the DNS for our LAN and queries our ISP's servers for outgoing mail etc. Simon Russell Nelson wrote: James Raftery writes: On Thu, Aug 12, 1999 at 02:15:17PM +0100, Simon Rae wrote: line traffic. Does this sound feasible? Is there anything I

POP newbie issues, almost fixed (but not quite)...

1999-08-12 Thread Hawke Robinson
Thanks to everyone's helpful suggestions, I'm now able to fully get and send email properly, except for one other item... From the time I send an email (whether it's from the same server I'm retrieving email, or if from a host elsewhere), it takes around 10+ minutes before I'm able to retrieve

Re: ownership of programs that execute in /var/qmail/alias?

1999-08-12 Thread Mark Delany
At 11:21 AM Thursday 8/12/99, Russell Nelson wrote: John Conover writes: As per the "standard" qmail installation for uucp, I have a /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-uucp-default of: '|preline -d /usr/bin/uux - -gC -a"${SENDER:-MAILER-DAEMON}" uucphost!rmail "($DEFAULT@$HOST)"'

Re: POP newbie issues, almost fixed (but not quite)...

1999-08-12 Thread Chris Johnson
On Thu, Aug 12, 1999 at 10:53:16AM -0600, Hawke Robinson wrote: Thanks to everyone's helpful suggestions, I'm now able to fully get and send email properly, except for one other item... From the time I send an email (whether it's from the same server I'm retrieving email, or if from a host

ip based accounting (2)

1999-08-12 Thread Michael Mertel
Hi there, after having a few frustrating hours I cannot see any option to force qmail or any related program to tell me which IP address sent a message in which size. sendmail is usually providing me with this information as relay= and size= in the from= line of my syslog output. If someone

Re: ip based accounting (2)

1999-08-12 Thread Russell Nelson
Michael Mertel writes: after having a few frustrating hours I cannot see any option to force qmail or any related program to tell me which IP address sent a message in which size. sendmail is usually providing me with this information as relay= and size= in the from= line of my

Solved: qmail-bigrem limits linux

1999-08-12 Thread Fred Lindberg
Dear Russell, Thanks for your input. The limiting factor for my redhat linux 2.2.5 installation was a per user process limit of 256. The reason I sometimes got 256 or 257 concurrency is that reporting is not exactly synchronous with forking. Thus, in addition to increasing the number of file

Re: Quotas

1999-08-12 Thread Jeff Hayward
On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Sam wrote: Unless you set an incoming limit using control/databytes. Nope. Your server will still dutifully receive every byte of a 30 megabyte mailbomb. Qmail will stop writing to the disk when it hits the limit, and will eventually reject the message

Re: Quotas

1999-08-12 Thread Jeff Hayward
Yes, control/databytes, if present, is the maximum message size which the qmail-smtpd program will accept. Set it at least as large as your largest user quota. See 'man qmail-smtpd' for details. -- Jeff On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Dimitri SZAJMAN wrote: At 07:42 12/08/99 -0500, you wrote: On

RE: Infamous internic

1999-08-12 Thread Daniluk, Chris
I think it is quite a big surprise :) When 80% of the world uses Sendmail... It's safe to assume that Internic used to use sendmail because they've been around since before qmails exsistence, and sendmail was really it when they were new. I'd be shocked if there were too many more sites that had

RE: Infamous internic

1999-08-12 Thread Mark Delany
At 04:46 PM Thursday 8/12/99, Daniluk, Chris wrote: ... mail can't afford to be late, because of the nature of what they do. I think it may be good to put up a list of sites such as this that use qmail. Hotmail and InterNIC both are very large volume sites and it's a good answer to "Who uses

Re: Solved: qmail-bigrem limits linux

1999-08-12 Thread Johannes Erdfelt
On Thu, Aug 12, 1999, Fred Lindberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your input. The limiting factor for my redhat linux 2.2.5 installation was a per user process limit of 256. The reason I sometimes got 256 or 257 concurrency is that reporting is not exactly synchronous with forking.

Re: Always, always!

1999-08-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Russell Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: *Always* run a nameserver on your qmail machine, even if it's caching-only. Er... if it's handling a reasonably high volume of mail. If it's only churning out a message or two every ten minutes, I wouldn't bother; BIND is a huge memory hog and also a

RE: Infamous internic

1999-08-12 Thread Russell Nelson
Daniluk, Chris writes: I think it is quite a big surprise :) When 80% of the world uses Sendmail... According to Dan's latest survey (http://pobox.com/~djb/surveys/smtpsoftware3.txt), (which isn't very "latest"), it's now down to 63%. -- -russ nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://russnelson.com

RE: Infamous internic

1999-08-12 Thread Mark Delany
At 05:31 PM Thursday 8/12/99, Russell Nelson wrote: Daniluk, Chris writes: I think it is quite a big surprise :) When 80% of the world uses Sendmail... According to Dan's latest survey (http://pobox.com/~djb/surveys/smtpsoftware3.txt), (which isn't very "latest"), it's now down to 63%.

Re: Infamous internic

1999-08-12 Thread B. Bogart
I have to put my two cents in here. Everyone seems impressed that InterNIC uses qmail. It has been mentioned repeatedly that their mail is important and cannot afford to be late. In my experience mail from InterNIC is always late or never arrives. Yes, it seems that they should have a

newbie Problems - qmail-pw2u

1999-08-12 Thread AP - Darvin Zuch
I'm running FreeBSD and think I have qmail up ... finally. All the documentation I've found says I should useqmail-pw2u to create users. ie.. sh /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pw2u When I do (as root), I get an error .. qmail-pw2u: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected Any helpful Ideas? Thanks in

Re: just curious

1999-08-12 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Aug 12, 1999 at 12:32:07PM -0400, "Timothy L. Mayo" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Mate Wierdl wrote: On the contrary! qmail successfully delivered the message to the user named "". It threw it on the floor like you asked it to. :) This behavior seems to be broken.

RE: Infamous internic

1999-08-12 Thread David Harris
B. Bogart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Of course, this is based on my own experience. I can only assume that others have had similar experiences. Although it is possible that I am the only one who has these problems, it does not seem likely. Internic has caused a fair amount of pain and

Re: Performance

1999-08-12 Thread D. J. Bernstein
Johannes Erdfelt writes: Only 76k per qmail-remote process was unique. Most of that, by the way, is bloat from the dynamic linker and the BIND resolver library. You can eliminate the dynamic linker (except under Solaris) by compiling statically. Eliminating BIND is more difficult. ---Dan

Re: Infamous internic

1999-08-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Daniluk, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Plus that doesn't count the 35 million customers that they send mass mailings to (minus those who checked no). The parenthetical qualification is a lovely thought, but unfortunately isn't particularly well-reflected in reality. They have to really

Re: Infamous internic

1999-08-12 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
B. Bogart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes on 10 August 1999 at 21:49:22 -0700 I have to put my two cents in here. Everyone seems impressed that InterNIC uses qmail. It has been mentioned repeatedly that their mail is important and cannot afford to be late. In my experience mail from InterNIC is

Re: Infamous internic

1999-08-12 Thread Scott D. Yelich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: Which is no more valid a data point than any other single observation, but since Ben is explicitly assuming that other people's experience is the same as his (which we all do, and is the right assumption in the

Re: Infamous internic

1999-08-12 Thread David Villeger
At 06:36 PM 8/12/99 -0600, Scott D. Yelich wrote: On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: Which is no more valid a data point than any other single observation, but since Ben is explicitly assuming that other people's experience is the same as his (which we all do, and is the right

Re: Performance

1999-08-12 Thread Sam
D. J. Bernstein writes: Johannes Erdfelt writes: Only 76k per qmail-remote process was unique. Most of that, by the way, is bloat from the dynamic linker and the BIND resolver library. You can eliminate the dynamic linker (except under Solaris) by compiling statically. Eliminating BIND

Re: Quotas

1999-08-12 Thread Daemeon Reiydelle
Thank you Mr. Moderator. Jeff, thank you for pointing that out. The issue of such a mailbomb is a piece of information an overworked admin installing qmail for the first time might not consider. Jeff Hayward wrote: On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Sam wrote: Unless you set an incoming limit using

Re: just curious

1999-08-12 Thread Rogerio Brito
On Aug 12 1999, Mate Wierdl wrote: Where does a message go if the local part is missing? (...) So the delivery is not successful, but where did the message go? AFAIK, it's silently discarded. And this is the behavior upon which some programs may depend. BTW, the