Re: Bogus popularity claims for Sendmail

2001-01-18 Thread Russell Nelson
D. J. Bernstein writes: Russell Nelson writes: arrange with some Internet provider to put a traffic analyzer somewhere on their backbone, There's a huge amount of mail that doesn't cross any backbones. Can that mail truly be called "Internet" mail? There's also a huge amount of

Re: Bogus popularity claims for Sendmail

2001-01-17 Thread D. J. Bernstein
Russell Nelson writes: arrange with some Internet provider to put a traffic analyzer somewhere on their backbone, There's a huge amount of mail that doesn't cross any backbones. There's also a huge amount of mail that isn't sent by ISP mail servers: for example, deliveries from dedicated

Re: Bogus popularity claims for Sendmail

2001-01-16 Thread Gjermund Sorseth
Mark Delany write: I would (...) just use the 250 responses from the remote SMTP servers. I wouldn't bother chasing down the MX and then probing it, from the perspective of Sendmail vs qmail vs the-rest, the queue-id responses are sufficiently distinct with a few

Re: Bogus popularity claims for Sendmail

2001-01-16 Thread Gjermund Sorseth
Out of these 62,786 remote SMTP servers, 16,658 are running sendmail (27%) and 5098 are running qmail (8%). Perhaps it is also interesting to look at how many of the messages were delivered to what type of server. Out of the 3,016,454 messages in the sample, 484,010 were delivered to

Re: Bogus popularity claims for Sendmail

2001-01-16 Thread Mark Delany
Excellent stats, Gjermund. Are you scripts suitable for general use? Can they be easily modified to identify some of the missing 65% and 73% respectively? Your latter numbers are more useful, 100 machines running sendmail and accepting 1 email each "handle" less traffic than 1 machine running

Re: Bogus popularity claims for Sendmail

2001-01-15 Thread Mark Delany
On Sat, Jan 13, 2001 at 10:16:34PM -, D. J. Bernstein wrote: I've set up a web page to combat Sendmail Inc.'s false advertising on this topic: http://cr.yp.to/surveys/sendmail.html Sendmail dropped below 50% of the Internet's SMTP servers---including idle workstations---last year;

Re: Bogus popularity claims for Sendmail

2001-01-14 Thread Jurjen Oskam
On 13 Jan 2001 22:16:34 -, "D. J. Bernstein" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suspect that qmail now handles more Internet mail deliveries than Sendmail does, although I don't know a good way to measure this. With this in mind, isn't it a great time to promote QMTP? For example, by using the

Bogus popularity claims for Sendmail

2001-01-13 Thread D. J. Bernstein
I've set up a web page to combat Sendmail Inc.'s false advertising on this topic: http://cr.yp.to/surveys/sendmail.html Sendmail dropped below 50% of the Internet's SMTP servers---including idle workstations---last year; qmail has climbed past 10%. I suspect that qmail now handles more Internet

Re: Bogus popularity claims for Sendmail

2001-01-13 Thread Russell Nelson
D. J. Bernstein writes: I've set up a web page to combat Sendmail Inc.'s false advertising on this topic: http://cr.yp.to/surveys/sendmail.html Sendmail dropped below 50% of the Internet's SMTP servers---including idle workstations---last year; qmail has climbed past 10%. I suspect

Re: Bogus popularity claims for Sendmail

2001-01-13 Thread Ricardo Cerqueira
On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 12:02:52AM -0500, Russell Nelson wrote: D. J. Bernstein writes: Sendmail dropped below 50% of the Internet's SMTP servers---including idle workstations---last year; qmail has climbed past 10%. I suspect that qmail now handles more Internet mail deliveries