Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb/wrote:
> You want to hand-hold all the PHBs who can barely put together a
> Powerpoint presentation, and tell them how to install a unix filter?
Why don't you tell them to get a proper mail user agent? Throwing away
email is not really the MTA's task.
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Claus
>> On Sat, 18 Dec 1999 18:00:47 GMT,
>> Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
S> Troy Frericks writes:
>> If somebody sent a memo to "A-project" and "Management-A", and I was
>> a member of both lists, I would expect to receive two emails so I
>> could get them archived in my appropriate mail
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>On Sat, 18 Dec 1999 23:19:10 -0500 (EST) , Russell Nelson writes:
>> Why would this happen after installing eliminate-dups? That's the
>> beauty of qmail. If you don't want dups, you don't have to receive
>> them. And if you do want a separate delivery to multiple ext
No, you install it by default and only tell the ones (usually your more
informed users) that need to how to override the filter for themselves.
On Sun, 19 Dec 1999, Sam wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Dec 1999, Russell Nelson wrote:
>
> > Sam writes:
> > > Troy Frericks writes:
> > >
> > > > If somebod
Sam writes:
> Well, that's still 90% better than what Qmail does. And, with mailing
> lists being managed in one place, that goes up to 100%. There is no
> concept of a "workgroup" versus "enterprise" server.
Think "university politics", and translate "workgroup" into "department".
> Elimi
Sam writes:
> On Sat, 18 Dec 1999, Russell Nelson wrote:
> > Why would this happen after installing eliminate-dups?
>
> You want to hand-hold all the PHBs who can barely put together a
> Powerpoint presentation, and tell them how to install a unix filter?
If you can't figure out how to make
Russell Nelson writes:
> Sam writes:
> > Are you really saying that it is now necessary to jump through hoops in
> > order to support Qmail on the back-end? Why should I figure out anything,
> > just for the sake of switching to Qmail? There's no need for me to figure
> > out how to make it
Sam writes:
> Are you really saying that it is now necessary to jump through hoops in
> order to support Qmail on the back-end? Why should I figure out anything,
> just for the sake of switching to Qmail? There's no need for me to figure
> out how to make it easy. It's already easy: sendmai
Russell Nelson writes:
> Sam writes:
> > On Sat, 18 Dec 1999, Russell Nelson wrote:
> > > Why would this happen after installing eliminate-dups?
> >
> > You want to hand-hold all the PHBs who can barely put together a
> > Powerpoint presentation, and tell them how to install a unix filter?
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On 20 Dec 99, at 5:18, Sam wrote:
> Are you really saying that it is now necessary to jump through hoops in
> order to support Qmail on the back-end? Why should I figure out anything,
> just for the sake of switching to Qmail? There's no need for me
On Sun, 19 Dec 1999 00:36:52 -0500 (EST) , Sam writes:
> You want to hand-hold all the PHBs who can barely put together a
> Powerpoint presentation, and tell them how to install a unix filter?
>
> Life's too short.
IIRC, Russ's suggestion was to change the default
delivery for the qmail instal
On Sat, 18 Dec 1999 23:19:10 -0500 (EST) , Russell Nelson writes:
> Why would this happen after installing eliminate-dups? That's the
> beauty of qmail. If you don't want dups, you don't have to receive
> them. And if you do want a separate delivery to multiple extensions,
> you can have that
On Sat, 18 Dec 1999, Russell Nelson wrote:
> Sam writes:
> > Troy Frericks writes:
> >
> > > If somebody sent a memo to "A-project" and "Management-A", and I was a
> > > member of both lists, I would expect to receive two emails so I could get
> > > them archived in my appropriate mail fold
Sam writes:
> Troy Frericks writes:
>
> > If somebody sent a memo to "A-project" and "Management-A", and I was a
> > member of both lists, I would expect to receive two emails so I could get
> > them archived in my appropriate mail folder (. I would hope you could
> > disable this 'feature
Troy Frericks writes:
> If somebody sent a memo to "A-project" and "Management-A", and I was a
> member of both lists, I would expect to receive two emails so I could get
> them archived in my appropriate mail folder (. I would hope you could
> disable this 'feature' in sendmail if you wanted.
At 08:45 PM 12/17/99 , Sam wrote:
>[snip]
>Also aliasing as in mailing lists. One nice feature of sendmail is that
>it dedups addresses after expanding them.
>
>This is one reason Qmail will never be used in any enterprise-scale
>system. The large international 800 pound gorilla I currently cons
At 10:00 17/12/1999 -0800, Peter C. Norton wrote:
>Post.Office is simple, it runs under NT, any idiot can set it up, and it's
>user interface is better then the current web-configurators for
>qmail/sendmail/anything else I've seen. It's also crappy. Delivery is
how about postfix and exim, they
Sam writes:
> Now, you can't run something like that with Qmail and ezmlm.
http://www.qmail.org/eliminiate-dups . Run qmail-start as follows:
qmail-start '|eliminate-dups Mailbox
./Mailbox'
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On 17 Dec 1999, Petr Novotny wrote:
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> On 17 Dec 99, at 7:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > The inability to do header rewriting without making
> > two trips through the queue causes a severe performance
> > hit, if you are doing anything other
"Peter C. Norton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Post.Office is simple, it runs under NT, any idiot can set it up, and it's
>user interface is better then the current web-configurators for
>qmail/sendmail/anything else I've seen.
Those are the pluses.
>It's also crappy. Delivery is slow, can't gr
> According to the new book "Programming Internet Email" by Wood at
> O'Reilly, qmail does not satisfy the needs of a large company with
> complex needs---only sendmail does. See bottom of page 17.
Don't just tease us: what's his reasoning? Not gonna go out & buy the book
right now just to find
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> From: Mate Wierdl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Shawn P. Stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Qmail List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 11:02 AM
> Subject: Re: Sendmail vs Qmail?
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> > On Fri, Dec 17, 1999 at 10:35
Why is postoffice so popular?
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From: Mate Wierdl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Shawn P. Stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 11:02 AM
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> On Fri, Dec 17, 199
On Fri, Dec 17, 1999 at 10:35:09AM -0600, Shawn P. Stanley wrote:
> As for the intentions of RedHat when trying to purchase Corel, I thought it
> had more to do with WordPerfect and other related office tools. Such tools
> are everything in the Linux vs. Microsoft market share war.
Sorry, I thou
other related office tools. Such tools
are everything in the Linux vs. Microsoft market share war.
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From: Mate Wierdl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Qmail List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: Sendmail vs Qmail?
> Acc
According to the new book "Programming Internet Email" by Wood at
O'Reilly, qmail does not satisfy the needs of a large company with
complex needs---only sendmail does. See bottom of page 17.
> According to Dan's surveys, "everyone" is 65% and dropping.
It seems that the droppage is due to pe
On 17 Dec 1999 13:34:39 - , "Petr Novotny" writes:
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> On 17 Dec 99, at 7:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > The inability to do header rewriting without making
> > two trips through the queue causes a severe performance
> > hit, if you are doi
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On 17 Dec 99, at 7:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The inability to do header rewriting without making
> two trips through the queue causes a severe performance
> hit, if you are doing anything other than low volume.
Rewriting headers of all messages
On 17 Dec 1999 08:10:26 - , "Petr Novotny" writes:
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> On 16 Dec 99, at 20:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I would list a few things in sendmail's favor:
> >
> > 1) The ability to rewrite headers "up front" without
> > requiring double deli
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On 16 Dec 99, at 20:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I would list a few things in sendmail's favor:
>
> 1) The ability to rewrite headers "up front" without
> requiring double delivery (once to a rewriting
> program, then again to the destination).
Ni
Ram Prasad writes:
> Can any one give the way to setup and use Qmail in easy english,
> point-by-point. I am not an expert but would like to use qmail
I'm working on a qmail book (although most recently I've been
Mr. World Traveller), but until that gets done, the next best thing is
Dave Sill's
Can any one give the way to setup and use Qmail in easy english,
point-by-point. I am not an expert but would like to use qmail
Darren Foo writes:
> Does Sendmail have any advantages over qmail? I'm trying to convince
> people to switch to qmail, but they're view is: Everyone uses sendmail,
> so we should too.
According to Dan's surveys, "everyone" is 65% and dropping.
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On Thu, 16 Dec 1999 15:07:00 -0800 , Darren Foo writes:
> Does Sendmail have any advantages over qmail? I'm trying to convince
> people to switch to qmail, but they're view is: Everyone uses sendmail,
> so we should too.
I would list a few things in sendmail's favor:
1) The ability to rew
At 19:06 16/12/99 -0500, Sam wrote:
>Qmail is not always the best solution for everyone, so you have to
>evaluate your individual needs, to see which mailer is a better fit for
>you.
>
>Qmail is faster in some (but not all) situations, plus it demands far less
>in terms of CPU and I/O resources.
Another thing. If something DOES have a security hole in it, ie. qmail and
sendmail at the same time, i can pretty much guarantee you that since
sendmail is on the larger percentage of machines it will be the first one
that the scr1pt k1ddez target and exploit.
(the modularity of qmail makes it m
> Does Sendmail have any advantages over qmail? I'm
> trying to convince people to switch to qmail, but they're
> view is: Everyone uses sendmail, so we should too.
Sendmail's biggest advantage is that pretty much every UNIX admin has at
least a passing familiarity with it. It's better kno
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