Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-30 Thread Brett Randall
> "Jeroen" == Jeroen ten Berge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't think they have your personal email adres, maybe they have a > bunch of mailgroups which they spam ? Nah...they'd have his address. My e-mail has been spam-free for the last 8 months, and now I'm starting to receive more...

RE: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-30 Thread Jeroen ten Berge
I don't think they have your personal email adres, maybe they have a bunch of mailgroups which they spam ? -Original Message- From: Stephen Bosch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 7:12 PM To: qmail Subject: Re: people are definately starting to ha

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-30 Thread Ask Bjoern Hansen
On Sun, 29 Oct 2000, Felix von Leitner wrote: [...] > PS: If anyone is interested in a mailing list about technical qmail > issues, please tell me. Please. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - more than 70M impressions per day,

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-30 Thread Stephen Bosch
"James T. Perry" wrote: > > Alexander Jernejcic wrote: > > > > hi, > > only for my interest: was this from Money Maker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ? > > i received that today. Oh, crap... you mean to tell me that the qmail list is the reason I'm suddenly getting spammed? God help me... and I kept my

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-29 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Brett Randall on 28 Oct 2000 22:28:51 +1100: > A better alternative, IMHO, is to use a certain anti-spam e-mail > address (someone on this list uses it but I can't remember who) that > only lasts like a week, and then its gone. This gives most ppl enuf > time to reply. This won't cut do

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-29 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun, 29 Oct 2000 01:00:11 MST: > > and have your *real* address that you give out to people who you want to > > have a stable address be user-@domain and be careful about > > revealing that . :) > > That's a good idea Russ. It is a very good idea, however, you ha

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-29 Thread markd
On Sat, Oct 28, 2000 at 04:55:14PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > markd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Indeed this is an excellent strategy - if done properly. The problem is, > > a lot of people don't have the ability to capture all addresses in a > > domain - and of course user-random@domain i

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread Jack McKinney
Big Brother tells me that Brett Randall wrote: > > "Martin" == Martin Jespersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > A better alternative, IMHO, is to use a certain anti-spam e-mail > address (someone on this list uses it but I can't remember who) that That would be I. For mailing lists, it

RE: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread Austad, Jay
Why are you such an asshole? Who's the owner of this list? I'm getting sick of hearing Felix's shit. -Original Message- From: Felix von Leitner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 6:56 PM To: Qmail mailing list Subject: Re: people are definat

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread Russ Allbery
markd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Indeed this is an excellent strategy - if done properly. The problem is, > a lot of people don't have the ability to capture all addresses in a > domain - and of course user-random@domain is trivially defeated by a > competent slicer and dicer if user@domain is

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread Felix von Leitner
Thus spake Martin Jespersen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Nice to see that people are able to be constructive around here *pats Felix on his >little head* While we are talking about "constructive", please construct yourself a gut and shoot yourself, idiot. Felix

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread Martin Jespersen
Nice to see that people are able to be constructive around here *pats Felix on his little head* Felix von Leitner wrote: > > Thus spake Martin Jespersen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > Martin> is there any chance that the list's admin would consider > > > Martin> removing the header info that shows

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread Martin Jespersen
"Robin S. Socha" wrote: > > Martin> is there any chance that the list's admin would consider > Martin> removing the header info that shows the adress of the sender > Martin> before sending it on to the list? > > That's a *very* stupid idea. > Sorry for pointing this out to your ego, but that

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread Alex Pennace
On Sat, Oct 28, 2000 at 09:37:08PM +0900, James T. Perry wrote: > Alexander Jernejcic wrote: > > > > hi, > > only for my interest: was this from Money Maker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ? > > i received that today. > > > > ;) a > > YUP! Ditto. PGP signature

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 28 October 2000 at 07:48:59 -0700 > > >> through a command that checks the References in the e-mail, and if > > > markd> That's not a bad idea. Allbut the original harvester will not > > markd> have that information - assuming most lists are

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread markd
> >> through a command that checks the References in the e-mail, and if > markd> That's not a bad idea. Allbut the original harvester will not > markd> have that information - assuming most lists are sold/shared > markd> sans original content. > > My Perl is a bit rusty and I'm not game to t

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread Brett Randall
> "markd" == markd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Here's a crazy idea: And it puts the pressure on crap MUA's, too :) >> Use the user-random@domain format, but have the e-mail piped >> through a command that checks the References in the e-mail, and if >> it contains a valid reference to an e

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread markd
On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 12:32:47AM +1100, Brett Randall wrote: > > "markd" == markd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > markd> As you say, it relies on MUAs faithfully reproducing > markd> References. Fortunately for us .qmail types, mess822 provides > markd> reliable access to header fields

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread Robin S. Socha
>> "Brett" == Brett Randall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> "Martin" == Martin Jespersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Martin> is there any chance that the list's admin would consider Martin> removing the header info that shows the adress of the sender Martin> before sending it on to the li

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread Brett Randall
> "markd" == markd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: markd> As you say, it relies on MUAs faithfully reproducing markd> References. Fortunately for us .qmail types, mess822 provides markd> reliable access to header fields for those who want to markd> implement that idea. I might even look int

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread markd
> Here's a crazy idea: And it puts the pressure on crap MUA's, too :) > Use the user-random@domain format, but have the e-mail piped through a > command that checks the References in the e-mail, and if it contains a > valid reference to an e-mail that was posted from your own mail relay, > then it

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread Brett Randall
> "markd" == markd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: markd> Hmm. Lemme get this right. You're telling me that people markd> modify their email addresses so that spammers cannot markd> automatically harvest them yet you then say that Gnus has code markd> that automatically processes them? Are a

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread markd
On Sat, Oct 28, 2000 at 10:28:51PM +1100, Brett Randall wrote: > Martin> is there any chance that the list's admin would consider > Martin> removing the header info that shows the adress of the sender > Martin> before sending it on to the list? > I wouldn't recommend this...how then can we

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread James T. Perry
Alexander Jernejcic wrote: > > hi, > only for my interest: was this from Money Maker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ? > i received that today. > > ;) a YUP! cheers, jamie ps maybe I should start including all spam-email addresses I have received in the past in my signature so they could harvest thei

RE: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread Alexander Jernejcic
hi, only for my interest: was this from Money Maker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ? i received that today. ;) a == Alexander Jernejcic email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] begin LOVE-LETTER-UND-NIX-DAZUGELERNT.txt.vbs I am a Signature, not a Virus! end ==

Re: people are definately starting to harvest emailadresses on this list...

2000-10-28 Thread Brett Randall
> "Martin" == Martin Jespersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Martin> Hi all I have now gotten spam to two of my adresses that i Martin> have only used publicly on this list. Ditto...and only in the last month. I am getting some degree of spam now. Martin> is there any chance that the list'