Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Jake Vickers
Maxwell Smart wrote: OK, now I'm confused. Does this mean that if the box is not ticked that SPAM mail will make it to your POP3 inbox marked as SPAM? CJ All mail is scanned unless you create an exclusion in your tcp.smtp or other similar method to turn off spam scanning. The only thing

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Eric Shubert
Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: OK, now I'm confused. Does this mean that if the box is not ticked that SPAM mail will make it to your POP3 inbox marked as SPAM? CJ All mail is scanned unless you create an exclusion in your tcp.smtp or other similar method to turn off spam

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Maxwell Smart
So where does the SPAM go if the tick is not checked? Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: OK, now I'm confused. Does this mean that if the box is not ticked that SPAM mail will make it to your POP3 inbox marked as SPAM? CJ All mail is scanned unless you create an exclusion in your

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Jake Vickers
Maxwell Smart wrote: So where does the SPAM go if the tick is not checked? If it scores above your threshold in simscan, then it goes to /dev/null Otherwise it goes to the user's Inbox. - Qmailtoaster is

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Jake Vickers
Eric Shubert wrote: Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: OK, now I'm confused. Does this mean that if the box is not ticked that SPAM mail will make it to your POP3 inbox marked as SPAM? CJ All mail is scanned unless you create an exclusion in your tcp.smtp or other similar method

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Maxwell Smart
I think just the clarification that it goes /dev/null whether it's checked or not. The pertinent information for me is it's not going to make it to the POP3 client regardless if it's ticked or not. CJ Jake Vickers wrote: Eric Shubert wrote: Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: OK,

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Eric Shubert
Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: So where does the SPAM go if the tick is not checked? If it scores above your threshold in simscan, then it goes to /dev/null I hate to nit pick, but to be more accurate I believe it's rejected as spam. In any case, the recipient can never see it.

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Maxwell Smart
So, if I am understanding this correctly. There is no way to filter it and have it make it to the POP3 Inbox marked as SPAM? Eric Shubert wrote: Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: So where does the SPAM go if the tick is not checked? If it scores above your threshold in simscan, then

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Eric Shubert
The spambox option simply moves stuff marked as spam to the spam folder. This option is really only appropriate for Imap/Squirrelmail, because once it's moved, POP3 can no longer see it. If you need to filter POP3 email, that has to be done by the client. Maxwell Smart wrote: So, if I am

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Jake Vickers
Eric Shubert wrote: Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: So where does the SPAM go if the tick is not checked? If it scores above your threshold in simscan, then it goes to /dev/null I hate to nit pick, but to be more accurate I believe it's rejected as spam. In any case, the

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Jake Vickers
Maxwell Smart wrote: So, if I am understanding this correctly. There is no way to filter it and have it make it to the POP3 Inbox marked as SPAM? What are you trying to accomplish? Email that comes in is scanned by Spamassassin. If it scores above the score you defined in

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Eric Shubert
Jake Vickers wrote: Eric Shubert wrote: Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: So where does the SPAM go if the tick is not checked? If it scores above your threshold in simscan, then it goes to /dev/null I hate to nit pick, but to be more accurate I believe it's rejected as spam. In

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Jake Vickers
Eric Shubert wrote: Jake Vickers wrote: Eric Shubert wrote: Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: So where does the SPAM go if the tick is not checked? If it scores above your threshold in simscan, then it goes to /dev/null I hate to nit pick, but to be more accurate I believe it's

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Aleksander Podsiadly
W dniu 11.08.2009 20:49, Eric Shubert pisze: Jake Vickers wrote: I'd really like to be clear on this, so I understand the inner workings. My understanding is that yes, the SMTP session remains open during the simscan phase. If the score is over the threshold in the simcontrol file

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Maxwell Smart
Yes, but it gets moved to a Spambox that can only be accessed via webmail. I am asking if a Spambox can be created in your POP3 client (Thunderbird) instead of having to access it via webmail to see if anything of importance has been marked as SPAM and doesn't make it to my POP3 client. I

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Maxwell Smart
OK, That's how I understood it works. This is what I was trying to clarify. Eric Shubert wrote: The spambox option simply moves stuff marked as spam to the spam folder. This option is really only appropriate for Imap/Squirrelmail, because once it's moved, POP3 can no longer see it. If you

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Jake Vickers
Maxwell Smart wrote: Yes, but it gets moved to a Spambox that can only be accessed via webmail. I am asking if a Spambox can be created in your POP3 client (Thunderbird) instead of having to access it via webmail to see if anything of importance has been marked as SPAM and doesn't make it to my

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Maxwell Smart
Got it. I was able to set up Thunderbird as an IMAP client and it works perfectly including the Sent and SPAM folders. Are there advantages to one over the other? CJ Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: Yes, but it gets moved to a Spambox that can only be accessed via webmail. I am

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Eric Shubert
Jake Vickers wrote: Eric Shubert wrote: Jake Vickers wrote: Eric Shubert wrote: Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: So where does the SPAM go if the tick is not checked? If it scores above your threshold in simscan, then it goes to /dev/null I hate to nit pick, but to be more

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Eric Shubert
IMAP is the future, POP3 is the past. ;) When you have your email on an IMAP-accessible server, you can access it with any IMAP-capable client from virtually anywhere. Do you need to share your email account between your desktop and notebook? No problem. Would you like to pull up your email

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Maxwell Smart
After installing an IMAP account and a POP3 in Thunderbird for the same account I can totally see the benefits and how it works. CJ Eric Shubert wrote: IMAP is the future, POP3 is the past. ;) When you have your email on an IMAP-accessible server, you can access it with any IMAP-capable

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Maxwell Smart
Hey thanks for all your help. I have a much better understanding of the setup and the difference between IMAP and POP3. Using Thunderbird for IMAP was a snap and I can now view all folders on the server in my client including the SPAM folder.

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Eric Shubert
Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: Hey thanks for all your help. I have a much better understanding of the setup and the difference between IMAP and POP3. Using Thunderbird for IMAP was a snap and I can now view all folders on the server in my client including the SPAM folder.

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Maxwell Smart
Thanks for the heads up on Outlook. I can see where it can be resource intensive on the server. I don't have enough clients for it to be an issue at the moment, other than I would have to increase their quota. Only one of my customers has requested it. I am certain the others don't even

Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still

2009-08-11 Thread Jake Vickers
Eric Shubert wrote: It has to get a copy of the message to scan. It does not return a successful delivery command to the sending server until the scanning process is complete (the remote server thinks the receiving server it still receiving the message). If it fails any of the tests, a

[qmailtoaster] Greylisting - What is possible in Qmail-Toaster?

2009-08-11 Thread Mike Canty
Can anyone please let me know what is available for Greylisting with Qmail-Toaster Cheers Mike Canty Mike Canty IT Operations Manager - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group

Re: [qmailtoaster] Greylisting - What is possible in Qmail-Toaster?

2009-08-11 Thread Eric Shubert
Mike Canty wrote: Can anyone please let me know what is available for Greylisting with Qmail-Toaster Cheers Mike Canty Mike Canty IT Operations Manager One word: spamdyke. Does greylisting and a whole lot more. -- -Eric 'shubes'

Re: [qmailtoaster] Greylisting - What is possible in Qmail-Toaster?

2009-08-11 Thread Eric Shubert
Mike Canty wrote: Can anyone please let me know what is available for Greylisting with Qmail-Toaster Cheers Mike Canty Mike Canty IT Operations Manager qtp-install-spamdyke is in qmailtoaster-plus package. See the QTP site and the wiki for more, and you might need to reference the

Re: [qmailtoaster] Greylisting - What is possible in Qmail-Toaster?

2009-08-11 Thread Eric Shubert
Be sure to read through http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Spamdyke, and use the README file for the nitty gritty. Mike Canty wrote: Eric, Once again, thanks for your assistance. I had already installed qtp, but I needed to run the qtp-install-spamdyke script to activate. Cheers

RE: [qmailtoaster] Greylisting - What is possible in Qmail-Toaster?

2009-08-11 Thread Mike Canty
Eric, Once again, thanks for your assistance. I had already installed qtp, but I needed to run the qtp-install-spamdyke script to activate. Cheers -Original Message- From: news [mailto:n...@ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Eric Shubert Sent: Wednesday, 12 August 2009 10:46 AM To:

[qmailtoaster] mailman wiki page

2009-08-11 Thread Eric Shubert
I came across a few bugs in the mailman toaster configuration. After some pretty extensive testing, I think the toaster mailman setup is pretty solid. The wiki page (http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Mailman) has been updated with the changes. If you've thought about trying mailman on

RE: [qmailtoaster] connection refused from clients sending email

2009-08-11 Thread Glen Vickers
Problem solved. And yes, I bought yet another Tee shirt. My fricken router blew!!! So it happened to be something rather simple. Got the RMA today and all is fine. Glen Yea, there's only so much you can do remotely. At this point a local visit is needed. I'm sure you're going to

Re: [qmailtoaster] connection refused from clients sending email

2009-08-11 Thread Maxwell Smart
Great news. Glen Vickers wrote: Problem solved. And yes, I bought yet another Tee shirt. My fricken router blew!!! So it happened to be something rather simple. Got the RMA today and all is fine. Glen Yea, there's only so much you can do remotely. At this point a local