Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: spam email routing query
Interesting, I have a script that does just that (move files about in the maildir) and it has not lead to problems yet. Though, I can definitely understand how it might be problematic. I gotta watch out for that. If you want to be on the safe side, I guess Eric's suggestion of using dovecot's lda is the thing to do. Martin Am 08.07.2010 um 11:47 schrieb Andreas Galatis: Hi Eric, As far as I learned it is never a good idea to copy (or delete) messages directly in the Maildir if you use dovecot. I had a script deleting old mails from a clients Maildir running via cron. The first day the script deleted old messages, the client could not access the last listpage from squirrelmail. I think the dovecot- index files where irritated because of missing files. At least you would have to delete the dovecot-files in the concerned directory (they will be rebuilt) Andreas Am Donnerstag, 8. Juli 2010 04:18:51 schrieb Eric Shubert: Rajesh M wrote: hi eric when the email arrives in the spam box its headers contained the delivered to email id in the header so my script will know where to which email id the message is to be delivered. so my concern about bcc is resolved. my second question is as such which would be better Define better. ;) Simply move the email from the centralized spambox to the inbox of that email id Or use the qmail-queue program to reroute the message back to the queue for delivery. As usual, there's more than one way. i don't want the email time stamps changed during this process. Which time stamps are you referring to? On further thinking about this, I wouldn't do either. If you have dovecot installed, I would use dovecot's deliver program. Otherwise, I'd use the maildrop program. You should realize though that at some point dovecot's lda (deliver) is likely going to replace maildrop. With either program, I don't expect you'd need to do any parsing of the message in your script - just pass it on to the lda. I could be wrong about this though. You could move the file to the appropriate inbox yourself and I believe that would work, but using the lda would be 'better'. The lda really should know what's going into the mailbox, for indexing and quota purposes. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com -- Corporation. An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility. Bierce, Ambrose - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] Re: spam email routing query
Yes, it can be problematic. At the same time though, dovecot is very robust, and is capable of recovering from inconsistencies such as this automatically (all by itself). I would expect performance hits when dovecot needs to rebuild indexes and such, but I would not expect a failure of any kind. If it fails, I'd consider it a bug (and I expect Timo the author would as well). If you run into problems however, I think Andreas's remedy of deleting the dovecot-files should indeed clear things up. I'd try to check first though to be sure that dovecot isn't in the middle of rebuilding things already. Not sure how I'd do that off hand (ps?/lsof?). -- -Eric 'shubes' Martin Waschbuesch wrote: Interesting, I have a script that does just that (move files about in the maildir) and it has not lead to problems yet. Though, I can definitely understand how it might be problematic. I gotta watch out for that. If you want to be on the safe side, I guess Eric's suggestion of using dovecot's lda is the thing to do. Martin Am 08.07.2010 um 11:47 schrieb Andreas Galatis: Hi Eric, As far as I learned it is never a good idea to copy (or delete) messages directly in the Maildir if you use dovecot. I had a script deleting old mails from a clients Maildir running via cron. The first day the script deleted old messages, the client could not access the last listpage from squirrelmail. I think the dovecot- index files where irritated because of missing files. At least you would have to delete the dovecot-files in the concerned directory (they will be rebuilt) Andreas Am Donnerstag, 8. Juli 2010 04:18:51 schrieb Eric Shubert: Rajesh M wrote: hi eric when the email arrives in the spam box its headers contained the delivered to email id in the header so my script will know where to which email id the message is to be delivered. so my concern about bcc is resolved. my second question is as such which would be better Define better. ;) Simply move the email from the centralized spambox to the inbox of that email id Or use the qmail-queue program to reroute the message back to the queue for delivery. As usual, there's more than one way. i don't want the email time stamps changed during this process. Which time stamps are you referring to? On further thinking about this, I wouldn't do either. If you have dovecot installed, I would use dovecot's deliver program. Otherwise, I'd use the maildrop program. You should realize though that at some point dovecot's lda (deliver) is likely going to replace maildrop. With either program, I don't expect you'd need to do any parsing of the message in your script - just pass it on to the lda. I could be wrong about this though. You could move the file to the appropriate inbox yourself and I believe that would work, but using the lda would be 'better'. The lda really should know what's going into the mailbox, for indexing and quota purposes. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com -- Corporation. An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility. Bierce, Ambrose - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: spam email routing query
After having deleted some Mails and the user accesses the concerned folder via squirrelmail he gets a failure notice saying the imap-connection was interrupted. In the logs I see the error message saying time went back, therefore dovecot was stopped. The error message is false, time is not manipulated, I run ntpd on all servers. So I tried stopping the deleteoldmails script and have no more problems with the folders, neither with time going back. Since I use dovecot, my client can easily show all messages in the Folder and delete the oldest himself, through squirrelmail. With courier it was too slow to see large amount of Mails. Andreas Yes, it can be problematic. At the same time though, dovecot is very robust, and is capable of recovering from inconsistencies such as this automatically (all by itself). I would expect performance hits when dovecot needs to rebuild indexes and such, but I would not expect a failure of any kind. If it fails, I'd consider it a bug (and I expect Timo the author would as well). If you run into problems however, I think Andreas's remedy of deleting the dovecot-files should indeed clear things up. I'd try to check first though to be sure that dovecot isn't in the middle of rebuilding things already. Not sure how I'd do that off hand (ps?/lsof?). -- -Eric 'shubes' Martin Waschbuesch wrote: Interesting, I have a script that does just that (move files about in the maildir) and it has not lead to problems yet. Though, I can definitely understand how it might be problematic. I gotta watch out for that. If you want to be on the safe side, I guess Eric's suggestion of using dovecot's lda is the thing to do. Martin Am 08.07.2010 um 11:47 schrieb Andreas Galatis: Hi Eric, As far as I learned it is never a good idea to copy (or delete) messages directly in the Maildir if you use dovecot. I had a script deleting old mails from a clients Maildir running via cron. The first day the script deleted old messages, the client could not access the last listpage from squirrelmail. I think the dovecot- index files where irritated because of missing files. At least you would have to delete the dovecot-files in the concerned directory (they will be rebuilt) Andreas Am Donnerstag, 8. Juli 2010 04:18:51 schrieb Eric Shubert: Rajesh M wrote: hi eric when the email arrives in the spam box its headers contained the delivered to email id in the header so my script will know where to which email id the message is to be delivered. so my concern about bcc is resolved. my second question is as such which would be better Define better. ;) Simply move the email from the centralized spambox to the inbox of that email id Or use the qmail-queue program to reroute the message back to the queue for delivery. As usual, there's more than one way. i don't want the email time stamps changed during this process. Which time stamps are you referring to? On further thinking about this, I wouldn't do either. If you have dovecot installed, I would use dovecot's deliver program. Otherwise, I'd use the maildrop program. You should realize though that at some point dovecot's lda (deliver) is likely going to replace maildrop. With either program, I don't expect you'd need to do any parsing of the message in your script - just pass it on to the lda. I could be wrong about this though. You could move the file to the appropriate inbox yourself and I believe that would work, but using the lda would be 'better'. The lda really should know what's going into the mailbox, for indexing and quota purposes. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com -- Corporation. An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility. Bierce, Ambrose - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: spam email routing query
I never have such problems with e.g. horde or Mail on Mac OS X. Could that be IMAP client-related as well? But then I am investigating how to replace my manual operations with dovecot's deliver. I don't want to end up having such problems as well. Martin Am 08.07.2010 um 18:58 schrieb Andreas Galatis: After having deleted some Mails and the user accesses the concerned folder via squirrelmail he gets a failure notice saying the imap-connection was interrupted. In the logs I see the error message saying time went back, therefore dovecot was stopped. The error message is false, time is not manipulated, I run ntpd on all servers. So I tried stopping the deleteoldmails script and have no more problems with the folders, neither with time going back. Since I use dovecot, my client can easily show all messages in the Folder and delete the oldest himself, through squirrelmail. With courier it was too slow to see large amount of Mails. Andreas Yes, it can be problematic. At the same time though, dovecot is very robust, and is capable of recovering from inconsistencies such as this automatically (all by itself). I would expect performance hits when dovecot needs to rebuild indexes and such, but I would not expect a failure of any kind. If it fails, I'd consider it a bug (and I expect Timo the author would as well). If you run into problems however, I think Andreas's remedy of deleting the dovecot-files should indeed clear things up. I'd try to check first though to be sure that dovecot isn't in the middle of rebuilding things already. Not sure how I'd do that off hand (ps?/lsof?). -- -Eric 'shubes' Martin Waschbuesch wrote: Interesting, I have a script that does just that (move files about in the maildir) and it has not lead to problems yet. Though, I can definitely understand how it might be problematic. I gotta watch out for that. If you want to be on the safe side, I guess Eric's suggestion of using dovecot's lda is the thing to do. Martin Am 08.07.2010 um 11:47 schrieb Andreas Galatis: Hi Eric, As far as I learned it is never a good idea to copy (or delete) messages directly in the Maildir if you use dovecot. I had a script deleting old mails from a clients Maildir running via cron. The first day the script deleted old messages, the client could not access the last listpage from squirrelmail. I think the dovecot- index files where irritated because of missing files. At least you would have to delete the dovecot-files in the concerned directory (they will be rebuilt) Andreas Am Donnerstag, 8. Juli 2010 04:18:51 schrieb Eric Shubert: Rajesh M wrote: hi eric when the email arrives in the spam box its headers contained the delivered to email id in the header so my script will know where to which email id the message is to be delivered. so my concern about bcc is resolved. my second question is as such which would be better Define better. ;) Simply move the email from the centralized spambox to the inbox of that email id Or use the qmail-queue program to reroute the message back to the queue for delivery. As usual, there's more than one way. i don't want the email time stamps changed during this process. Which time stamps are you referring to? On further thinking about this, I wouldn't do either. If you have dovecot installed, I would use dovecot's deliver program. Otherwise, I'd use the maildrop program. You should realize though that at some point dovecot's lda (deliver) is likely going to replace maildrop. With either program, I don't expect you'd need to do any parsing of the message in your script - just pass it on to the lda. I could be wrong about this though. You could move the file to the appropriate inbox yourself and I believe that would work, but using the lda would be 'better'. The lda really should know what's going into the mailbox, for indexing and quota purposes. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com -- Corporation. An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility. Bierce, Ambrose - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need
[qmailtoaster] Re: spam email routing query
Andreas Galatis wrote: After having deleted some Mails and the user accesses the concerned folder via squirrelmail he gets a failure notice saying the imap-connection was interrupted. In the logs I see the error message saying time went back, therefore dovecot was stopped. The error message is false, time is not manipulated, I run ntpd on all servers. So I tried stopping the deleteoldmails script and have no more problems with the folders, neither with time going back. Since I use dovecot, my client can easily show all messages in the Folder and delete the oldest himself, through squirrelmail. With courier it was too slow to see large amount of Mails. Andreas Please post/ask about this on the dovecot list. I'm interested to see what Timo has to say about it, and what the proper procedure would be. -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: spam email routing query
On 07/08/2010 12:58 PM, Andreas Galatis wrote: After having deleted some Mails and the user accesses the concerned folder via squirrelmail he gets a failure notice saying the imap-connection was interrupted. In the logs I see the error message saying time went back, therefore dovecot was stopped. The error message is false, time is not manipulated, I run ntpd on all servers. So I tried stopping the deleteoldmails script and have no more problems with the folders, neither with time going back. Since I use dovecot, my client can easily show all messages in the Folder and delete the oldest himself, through squirrelmail. With courier it was too slow to see large amount of Mails. Do you have the mailstore on an NFS volume, especially in conjunction with a VM of some type? - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: spam email routing query
From what I read in the deliver documentation, it cannot (unlike maildrop) take an email from standard input or a file? At least that is how I read the documentation. If that's true I do not see how it could be used for this type of scripting. Anyone can confirm / correct my observation? Martin Am 08.07.2010 um 11:51 schrieb Martin Waschbuesch: Interesting, I have a script that does just that (move files about in the maildir) and it has not lead to problems yet. Though, I can definitely understand how it might be problematic. I gotta watch out for that. If you want to be on the safe side, I guess Eric's suggestion of using dovecot's lda is the thing to do. Martin Am 08.07.2010 um 11:47 schrieb Andreas Galatis: Hi Eric, As far as I learned it is never a good idea to copy (or delete) messages directly in the Maildir if you use dovecot. I had a script deleting old mails from a clients Maildir running via cron. The first day the script deleted old messages, the client could not access the last listpage from squirrelmail. I think the dovecot- index files where irritated because of missing files. At least you would have to delete the dovecot-files in the concerned directory (they will be rebuilt) Andreas Am Donnerstag, 8. Juli 2010 04:18:51 schrieb Eric Shubert: Rajesh M wrote: hi eric when the email arrives in the spam box its headers contained the delivered to email id in the header so my script will know where to which email id the message is to be delivered. so my concern about bcc is resolved. my second question is as such which would be better Define better. ;) Simply move the email from the centralized spambox to the inbox of that email id Or use the qmail-queue program to reroute the message back to the queue for delivery. As usual, there's more than one way. i don't want the email time stamps changed during this process. Which time stamps are you referring to? On further thinking about this, I wouldn't do either. If you have dovecot installed, I would use dovecot's deliver program. Otherwise, I'd use the maildrop program. You should realize though that at some point dovecot's lda (deliver) is likely going to replace maildrop. With either program, I don't expect you'd need to do any parsing of the message in your script - just pass it on to the lda. I could be wrong about this though. You could move the file to the appropriate inbox yourself and I believe that would work, but using the lda would be 'better'. The lda really should know what's going into the mailbox, for indexing and quota purposes. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com -- Corporation. An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility. Bierce, Ambrose - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com -- “Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.” Benjamin Franklin - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] Re: spam email routing query
I haven't looked at the deliver documentation much, let alone recently. I don't mean to sound like a broken record, but would you like to ask on the dovecot list? (dove...@dovecot.org) That list has been pretty active lately, and the people there are very helpful. -- -Eric 'shubes' Martin Waschbuesch wrote: From what I read in the deliver documentation, it cannot (unlike maildrop) take an email from standard input or a file? At least that is how I read the documentation. If that's true I do not see how it could be used for this type of scripting. Anyone can confirm / correct my observation? Martin Am 08.07.2010 um 11:51 schrieb Martin Waschbuesch: Interesting, I have a script that does just that (move files about in the maildir) and it has not lead to problems yet. Though, I can definitely understand how it might be problematic. I gotta watch out for that. If you want to be on the safe side, I guess Eric's suggestion of using dovecot's lda is the thing to do. Martin Am 08.07.2010 um 11:47 schrieb Andreas Galatis: Hi Eric, As far as I learned it is never a good idea to copy (or delete) messages directly in the Maildir if you use dovecot. I had a script deleting old mails from a clients Maildir running via cron. The first day the script deleted old messages, the client could not access the last listpage from squirrelmail. I think the dovecot- index files where irritated because of missing files. At least you would have to delete the dovecot-files in the concerned directory (they will be rebuilt) Andreas Am Donnerstag, 8. Juli 2010 04:18:51 schrieb Eric Shubert: Rajesh M wrote: hi eric when the email arrives in the spam box its headers contained the delivered to email id in the header so my script will know where to which email id the message is to be delivered. so my concern about bcc is resolved. my second question is as such which would be better Define better. ;) Simply move the email from the centralized spambox to the inbox of that email id Or use the qmail-queue program to reroute the message back to the queue for delivery. As usual, there's more than one way. i don't want the email time stamps changed during this process. Which time stamps are you referring to? On further thinking about this, I wouldn't do either. If you have dovecot installed, I would use dovecot's deliver program. Otherwise, I'd use the maildrop program. You should realize though that at some point dovecot's lda (deliver) is likely going to replace maildrop. With either program, I don't expect you'd need to do any parsing of the message in your script - just pass it on to the lda. I could be wrong about this though. You could move the file to the appropriate inbox yourself and I believe that would work, but using the lda would be 'better'. The lda really should know what's going into the mailbox, for indexing and quota purposes. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com -- Corporation. An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility. Bierce, Ambrose - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] Disclaimer Once Again
Hi Everyone, Sorry for bringing once again this topic on highlight, but today my client also asked me to add disclaimer to all outgoing mails at server level. I saw all the earlier post, all do n dont's for the same. Don't know whether some got succeeded in the same or not. Was thinking how it can be done. While searching got info about altermime ( http://www.pldaniels.com/altermime/). Next thing was where we can implement altermime with our existing toaster package, it should be time of sending mail may be with qmail-send or qmail-remote. Now qmail-remote wrapper is used in DKIM package to add DKIM signatures in Mail headers, so I need some help from you guys to modify the script so while adding DKIM signature it will also add a disclaimer to outgoing mail. I don't whether I'm thinking in right direction or not. I just thought of DKIM as it is the time when mail is open to add DKIM signature. So please help me. Thanks and regards, Amit
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: spam email routing query
You know, sometimes I am just way too slow it seems. :-) Am 08.07.2010 um 20:29 schrieb Eric Shubert: I haven't looked at the deliver documentation much, let alone recently. I don't mean to sound like a broken record, but would you like to ask on the dovecot list? (dove...@dovecot.org) That list has been pretty active lately, and the people there are very helpful. -- -Eric 'shubes' Martin Waschbuesch wrote: From what I read in the deliver documentation, it cannot (unlike maildrop) take an email from standard input or a file? At least that is how I read the documentation. If that's true I do not see how it could be used for this type of scripting. Anyone can confirm / correct my observation? Martin Am 08.07.2010 um 11:51 schrieb Martin Waschbuesch: Interesting, I have a script that does just that (move files about in the maildir) and it has not lead to problems yet. Though, I can definitely understand how it might be problematic. I gotta watch out for that. If you want to be on the safe side, I guess Eric's suggestion of using dovecot's lda is the thing to do. Martin Am 08.07.2010 um 11:47 schrieb Andreas Galatis: Hi Eric, As far as I learned it is never a good idea to copy (or delete) messages directly in the Maildir if you use dovecot. I had a script deleting old mails from a clients Maildir running via cron. The first day the script deleted old messages, the client could not access the last listpage from squirrelmail. I think the dovecot- index files where irritated because of missing files. At least you would have to delete the dovecot-files in the concerned directory (they will be rebuilt) Andreas Am Donnerstag, 8. Juli 2010 04:18:51 schrieb Eric Shubert: Rajesh M wrote: hi eric when the email arrives in the spam box its headers contained the delivered to email id in the header so my script will know where to which email id the message is to be delivered. so my concern about bcc is resolved. my second question is as such which would be better Define better. ;) Simply move the email from the centralized spambox to the inbox of that email id Or use the qmail-queue program to reroute the message back to the queue for delivery. As usual, there's more than one way. i don't want the email time stamps changed during this process. Which time stamps are you referring to? On further thinking about this, I wouldn't do either. If you have dovecot installed, I would use dovecot's deliver program. Otherwise, I'd use the maildrop program. You should realize though that at some point dovecot's lda (deliver) is likely going to replace maildrop. With either program, I don't expect you'd need to do any parsing of the message in your script - just pass it on to the lda. I could be wrong about this though. You could move the file to the appropriate inbox yourself and I believe that would work, but using the lda would be 'better'. The lda really should know what's going into the mailbox, for indexing and quota purposes. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com -- Corporation. An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility. Bierce, Ambrose - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail:
Re: [qmailtoaster] Disclaimer Once Again
hi all i am also facing the same problem as rajesh.at my place of work i am required to add a disclaimer for all out going emails.i have looked at the previous posts regarding disclaimer..i added a plugin on squirrel mail to add a disclaimer to all out going emails from webmail but the main challenge if for the users using email clients (disclaimer can be added as a signature).i need to do it at the server level(if possible at the server level then i can remove the squirrel mail plugin) your assistance is highly appreciated regards Nishant Amin. On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Amit a...@ikf.co.in wrote: Hi Everyone, Sorry for bringing once again this topic on highlight, but today my client also asked me to add disclaimer to all outgoing mails at server level. I saw all the earlier post, all do n dont's for the same. Don't know whether some got succeeded in the same or not. Was thinking how it can be done. While searching got info about altermime (http://www.pldaniels.com/altermime/). Next thing was where we can implement altermime with our existing toaster package, it should be time of sending mail may be with qmail-send or qmail-remote. Now qmail-remote wrapper is used in DKIM package to add DKIM signatures in Mail headers, so I need some help from you guys to modify the script so while adding DKIM signature it will also add a disclaimer to outgoing mail. I don't whether I'm thinking in right direction or not. I just thought of DKIM as it is the time when mail is open to add DKIM signature. So please help me. Thanks and regards, Amit - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] Re: Disclaimer Once Again
I haven't set up the DKIM wrapper (yet), so I'm not much help at this point. I think Amit's on the right track though. The disclaimer (or whatever common text) should be added just before the DKIM signature. Is that wrapper on the wiki somewhere, or is it only in the video? -- -Eric 'shubes' nishant amin wrote: hi all i am also facing the same problem as rajesh.at my place of work i am required to add a disclaimer for all out going emails.i have looked at the previous posts regarding disclaimer..i added a plugin on squirrel mail to add a disclaimer to all out going emails from webmail but the main challenge if for the users using email clients (disclaimer can be added as a signature).i need to do it at the server level(if possible at the server level then i can remove the squirrel mail plugin) your assistance is highly appreciated regards Nishant Amin. On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Amit a...@ikf.co.in wrote: Hi Everyone, Sorry for bringing once again this topic on highlight, but today my client also asked me to add disclaimer to all outgoing mails at server level. I saw all the earlier post, all do n dont's for the same. Don't know whether some got succeeded in the same or not. Was thinking how it can be done. While searching got info about altermime (http://www.pldaniels.com/altermime/). Next thing was where we can implement altermime with our existing toaster package, it should be time of sending mail may be with qmail-send or qmail-remote. Now qmail-remote wrapper is used in DKIM package to add DKIM signatures in Mail headers, so I need some help from you guys to modify the script so while adding DKIM signature it will also add a disclaimer to outgoing mail. I don't whether I'm thinking in right direction or not. I just thought of DKIM as it is the time when mail is open to add DKIM signature. So please help me. Thanks and regards, Amit - -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Disclaimer Once Again
On 07/08/2010 06:45 PM, Eric Shubert wrote: I haven't set up the DKIM wrapper (yet), so I'm not much help at this point. I think Amit's on the right track though. The disclaimer (or whatever common text) should be added just before the DKIM signature. Is that wrapper on the wiki somewhere, or is it only in the video? Only in the video. You can google to find the wrapper and an outline on how to set it up. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Disclaimer Once Again
Hi Eric, I had made a step by step process of setting DKIM from Jake videos. Do you want me to uplaod it on wiki then do let me know. Regards, Amit On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:59 AM, Jake Vickers j...@qmailtoaster.com wrote: On 07/08/2010 06:45 PM, Eric Shubert wrote: I haven't set up the DKIM wrapper (yet), so I'm not much help at this point. I think Amit's on the right track though. The disclaimer (or whatever common text) should be added just before the DKIM signature. Is that wrapper on the wiki somewhere, or is it only in the video? Only in the video. You can google to find the wrapper and an outline on how to set it up. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group ( www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Disclaimer Once Again
Or watch Jake's video here (it's the only one I happen to have lying around because I watched it several times and did not want to re-download it every time): http://martin.waschbuesch.de/ep19-full.mov Martin Am 09.07.2010 um 00:45 schrieb Eric Shubert: I haven't set up the DKIM wrapper (yet), so I'm not much help at this point. I think Amit's on the right track though. The disclaimer (or whatever common text) should be added just before the DKIM signature. Is that wrapper on the wiki somewhere, or is it only in the video? -- -Eric 'shubes' nishant amin wrote: hi all i am also facing the same problem as rajesh.at my place of work i am required to add a disclaimer for all out going emails.i have looked at the previous posts regarding disclaimer..i added a plugin on squirrel mail to add a disclaimer to all out going emails from webmail but the main challenge if for the users using email clients (disclaimer can be added as a signature).i need to do it at the server level(if possible at the server level then i can remove the squirrel mail plugin) your assistance is highly appreciated regards Nishant Amin. On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Amit a...@ikf.co.in wrote: Hi Everyone, Sorry for bringing once again this topic on highlight, but today my client also asked me to add disclaimer to all outgoing mails at server level. I saw all the earlier post, all do n dont's for the same. Don't know whether some got succeeded in the same or not. Was thinking how it can be done. While searching got info about altermime (http://www.pldaniels.com/altermime/). Next thing was where we can implement altermime with our existing toaster package, it should be time of sending mail may be with qmail-send or qmail-remote. Now qmail-remote wrapper is used in DKIM package to add DKIM signatures in Mail headers, so I need some help from you guys to modify the script so while adding DKIM signature it will also add a disclaimer to outgoing mail. I don't whether I'm thinking in right direction or not. I just thought of DKIM as it is the time when mail is open to add DKIM signature. So please help me. Thanks and regards, Amit - -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com -- “Majority rule only works if you're also considering individual rights. Because you can't have five wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for supper.” Larry Flynt - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
