Re: Continuous Build Server. Was: NEED HELP: getting the trunk back in order

2007-03-09 Thread Rupert Smith
The distributed build is not to make it run faster. It is so that the build process can build the c++ on a linux box, and the .net build on a windows box. Both can be tied together under a common build stamp. They can be interop tested (by calling scripts on both boxes). If the tests pass, the bu

Re: Continuous Build Server. Was: NEED HELP: getting the trunk back in order

2007-03-09 Thread Alan Conway
Rupert Smith wrote: On 3/9/07, Alan Conway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: distcc for make) not the continuous build system. "Native" make integration sounds nice but integration via ant is so straightforward that I can't imagine what additional value it provides. Well go ahead and write a distrib

Re: Continuous Build Server. Was: NEED HELP: getting the trunk back in order

2007-03-09 Thread Robert Godfrey
The only issue is the credit which AntHill may/may not require and where it needs to be placed. If it is on an apache web site then we need some sort of official OK. If this is a requirement of the AntHill license then we need the OK on this before we move from evaluation of AntHill to actual us

Re: Continuous Build Server. Was: NEED HELP: getting the trunk back in order

2007-03-09 Thread Rupert Smith
On 3/9/07, Robert Godfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 1. is AntHill offering a license for any of the contributors to run a continuous build against the apache subversion project? 2. is there any restriction on the number of continuous build systems thus set up? 3. if individual contributors / org

Re: Continuous Build Server. Was: NEED HELP: getting the trunk back in order

2007-03-09 Thread Rupert Smith
On 3/9/07, Alan Conway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: distcc for make) not the continuous build system. "Native" make integration sounds nice but integration via ant is so straightforward that I can't imagine what additional value it provides. Well go ahead and write a distributed build system via

Re: Continuous Build Server. Was: NEED HELP: getting the trunk back in order

2007-03-09 Thread Alan Conway
Robert Godfrey wrote: Is the continuous build set up part of the project though? That is, even if we use AntHillPro (or any other solution) for our own continuous build... there's nothing stopping anyone else setting up their own continous build using any technology they like. (Although if the

Re: Continuous Build Server. Was: NEED HELP: getting the trunk back in order

2007-03-09 Thread Robert Godfrey
Is the continuous build set up part of the project though? That is, even if we use AntHillPro (or any other solution) for our own continuous build... there's nothing stopping anyone else setting up their own continous build using any technology they like. (Although if they do so can I strongly r

Re: Continuous Build Server. Was: NEED HELP: getting the trunk back in order

2007-03-09 Thread Alan Conway
Martin Ritchie wrote: Does apache have windows build machines. We really need to build on windows (.net) and RHEL 3 & 4 for c++ as well as java. Then interop test the result. The guys from AntHillPro have said we can have a licence we just need to sort out how/where we use it. I'm wary about the

Re: Continuous Build Server. Was: NEED HELP: getting the trunk back in order

2007-03-08 Thread Rupert Smith
On 3/8/07, Daniel Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I just want to bring this up Make sure you send a note to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as well as legal@ and possibly the incubator PMC's before making any final desision. There are several "free for use with open source projects" that we really shou

Re: Continuous Build Server. Was: NEED HELP: getting the trunk back in order

2007-03-08 Thread Rupert Smith
Yup, ideally on a machine that all committers have (secure) access to, can provide web interface to the anthill web console, and can spam us with broken build emails. Until then, we'll just have to experiment with a machine behind the firewall. We are not in a position to provide a machine open to

Re: Continuous Build Server. Was: NEED HELP: getting the trunk back in order

2007-03-08 Thread Martin Ritchie
Does apache have windows build machines. We really need to build on windows (.net) and RHEL 3 & 4 for c++ as well as java. Then interop test the result. The guys from AntHillPro have said we can have a licence we just need to sort out how/where we use it. On 08/03/07, Daniel Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Continuous Build Server. Was: NEED HELP: getting the trunk back in order

2007-03-08 Thread Daniel Kulp
On Thursday 08 March 2007 09:13, Marnie McCormack wrote: > This is interesting - I wasn't aware that Apache had hardware for > supporting project specific continuous build environments (and I guess > people to support it ) ? There is a continuum vm setup that several java projects are using: http

Re: Continuous Build Server. Was: NEED HELP: getting the trunk back in order

2007-03-08 Thread Marnie McCormack
This is interesting - I wasn't aware that Apache had hardware for supporting project specific continuous build environments (and I guess people to support it ) ? On 3/8/07, Daniel Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I just want to bring this up Make sure you send a note to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Continuous Build Server. Was: NEED HELP: getting the trunk back in order

2007-03-08 Thread Daniel Kulp
I just want to bring this up Make sure you send a note to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as well as legal@ and possibly the incubator PMC's before making any final desision. There are several "free for use with open source projects" that we really shouldn't be using do to reverse-marketing stipulatio

Re: Continuous Build Server. Was: NEED HELP: getting the trunk back in order

2007-03-08 Thread Rupert Smith
I upgraded in the hope of fixing my problems with svn. It didn't solve that problem but it did at least stay up for longer than it used to. On 3/8/07, Marnie McCormack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In previous projects we had a lot of problems with cruisecontrol falling over, very frequently. It ma

Re: Continuous Build Server. Was: NEED HELP: getting the trunk back in order

2007-03-08 Thread Marnie McCormack
In previous projects we had a lot of problems with cruisecontrol falling over, very frequently. It may be that the current release is more stable than previously though. Bfn, Marnie

Re: Continuous Build Server. Was: NEED HELP: getting the trunk back in order

2007-03-08 Thread Rupert Smith
Still, I think we should accept the AntHill licence because it is without doubt a superior product. I need to chase them up about it, but was hoping to some back to them with an enthusiastic response from the qpid developers first. Accepting the licence doesn't commit us to it forever, we can try

Re: Continuous Build Server. Was: NEED HELP: getting the trunk back in order

2007-03-07 Thread Alan Conway
Nuno Santos wrote: Will also need to check regarding the licensing issue... our plan was to use CruiseControl but I see in the chart that you mentioned -- very useful, btw -- that it doesn't directly support "make", so we have to see if we can somehow integrate the C++ build with CruiseControl,

Re: Continuous Build Server. Was: NEED HELP: getting the trunk back in order

2007-03-07 Thread Nuno Santos
Rupert Smith wrote: The only condition they asked for is that we put an acknowledgement on the project web site. If RedHat are going to supply a box or two (need Windows and Linux), available on the internet, that would be ideal. I was thinking of getting it running here and figuring out if I can

Re: Continuous Build Server. Was: NEED HELP: getting the trunk back in order

2007-03-06 Thread Rupert Smith
The only condition they asked for is that we put an acknowledgement on the project web site. As for the number of machines, whether the licence must be attached to a particular IP address or something, I'm not yet sure. I'll chase up the request and find out. If RedHat are going to supply a box

Re: Continuous Build Server. Was: NEED HELP: getting the trunk back in order

2007-03-06 Thread Robert Godfrey
+1 on the free license - but what are the conditions on its use? Obviously any continuous build system will have to be hosted on some equipment. How many installations is the license offer good for? If an instance is to be hosted inside the company which employs one of the contributors what are

Continuous Build Server. Was: NEED HELP: getting the trunk back in order

2007-03-06 Thread Rupert Smith
I have tried out a few different build servers. I started by looking at this feature matrix (probably not entirely complete or up to date): http://damagecontrol.codehaus.org/Continuous+Integration+Server+Feature+Matrix As you can see there are two that have more green ticks than the others. Anth