[q] Moving to Google Groups
After reading discussion over the weekend, let me clarify a few things. Google Groups functions as an email group, so the format of posting and receiving messages can be exactly the same as you're used to. In addition, you can read, search, and reply to messages online, something you couldn't do with our old email system. Nobody is required to use Google/Gmail to join the list. You can use any email address. And better yet, you can now control your own subscription - single message mode, digest, even set it to no email when you go on vacation. Or you could just read online if you prefer. Some people are having problems posting via email, just as has been the case with Maclaunch. Your email address has to match the subscribed one - most list servers won't see [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the same thing. If you have trouble posting, check the headers to see how your From: and Reply-to: are configured. There have been some objections to Google based on their willingness to provide a restricted search engine in China (among other countries) and abide by national laws rather than opt out of the Chinese market. If you want to boycott Google, consider that Apple Computer, General Motors, and most international businesses also elect to work within the constraints of Chinese law so they can reach the Chinese market and/or use Chinese labor. Neither Google nor the Chinese government puts any restrictions on the political views of participants of our email lists. We chose Google Groups because the provide a much more flexible service with greater user control than any of the mail list software we've run across. Further, politics is explicity listed as an area not to be debated on our lists, along with religion and Windows advocacy. We are building helpful Mac communities, so we try to avoid divisive issues. -- Dan Knight, president /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Cobweb Publishing, Inc.\ / No HTML/RTF in email http://cobwebpublishing.com X No Word docs in email http://lowendmac.com / \ Respect Open Standards http://reformed.net -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
[q] Moving to Google Groups
Fans of 680x0 Macs, we've successfully launched our first two email lists using Google Groups - one for Macintel models and one for the Mac mini. As of this afternoon, we've turned off our three Maclone lists, which have also transitioned to Google Groups. Advantages: You can browse messages online, where they are threaded. You can manage your subscription yourself. Lots more room for the archive. And Google Groups doesn't automatically include your email address in your postings. Today we begin moving Compact Macs, Vintage Macs, and Quadlist to Google Groups. Google Groups will not replace the current lists until early next week, but I wanted to give everyone a chance to subscribe. To join the list and set your mode (single messages, digest, etc.), point your browser to http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs When the list goes live, [EMAIL PROTECTED] will be the posting address. I'm updating the Vintage Macs List FAQ to reflect these changes. I look forward to seeing most of you there next week. Dan Knight, listmom -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: [q] Moving to Google Groups
Hi, y'all! Quoting Dan Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Fans of 680x0 Macs, we've successfully launched our first two email lists using Google Groups - one for Macintel models and one for the Mac mini. As of this afternoon, we've turned off our three Maclone lists, which have also transitioned to Google Groups. Advantages: You can browse messages online, where they are threaded. You can manage your subscription yourself. Lots more room for the archive. And Google Groups doesn't automatically include your email address in your postings. Today we begin moving Compact Macs, Vintage Macs, and Quadlist to Google Groups. Google Groups will not replace the current lists until early next week, but I wanted to give everyone a chance to subscribe. To join the list and set your mode (single messages, digest, etc.), point your browser to http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs Hey, Dan, the link above appears to be leftover from the message you sent to the vintage-macs list. Willi -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: [q] Moving to Google Groups
My reply follows quote. On 1/27/06, at 4:32 PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, Dan, the link above appears to be leftover from the message you sent to the vintage-macs list. All the lists he mentioned (Compact Macs, Vintage Macs, and Quadlist) will be grouped into one list called the vintage macs list -- Thanks, Paul (pjspop @ bresnan.net) soon to be former QuadList PCI PowerMacs nanny -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: [q] Moving to Google Groups
Steve, I'm willing to give the Google Groups a try. I have avoided reflectors in the past because they seemed to attract spam but this service appears better protected. Macs are neat and I've used them since 1986 or so but they are more fun when one can converse with others who also appreciate them. The second thing is that with the choice of message delivery methods, we can now adjust the mail flow into our mail boxes and that is much better. If one goes out of town for a few days one can turn off mail flow or put into digest form without leaving the list. Most of the time I prefer to read it from the web and not mess with regular email but the choice is still there. I signed up with Google a few minutes ago and look forward to full activation. One thing is that I didn't mention is that I haven't tried it with the Quadra or with one of the older SE's from my herd of Macs. We'll see how it works with them a little later. cheers! al On Jan 27, 2006, at 3:50 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: I predict you will lose members by doing this move. The way it is set up now is vastly superior to the way google groups is set up as you can save the messages you want in your own email box and you don't have to hut through the whole group to find something. Steve On 1/27/06, Dan Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fans of 680x0 Macs, we've successfully launched our first two email lists using Google Groups - one for Macintel models and one for the Mac mini. As of this afternoon, we've turned off our three Maclone lists, which have also transitioned to Google Groups. Advantages: You can browse messages online, where they are threaded. You can manage your subscription yourself. Lots more room for the archive. And Google Groups doesn't automatically include your email address in your postings. Today we begin moving Compact Macs, Vintage Macs, and Quadlist to Google Groups. Google Groups will not replace the current lists until early next week, but I wanted to give everyone a chance to subscribe. To join the list and set your mode (single messages, digest, etc.), point your browser to http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs When the list goes live, [EMAIL PROTECTED] will be the posting address. I'm updating the Vintage Macs List FAQ to reflect these changes. I look forward to seeing most of you there next week. Dan Knight, listmom -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com -- The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: [q] Moving to Google Groups
does this mean that the lists will all turn into some forum-like stuff and will stop working like standard maillists? I hope not :-( /tina -- *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* Tina Holm, Pederstrup Djurs, DK. http://nehaia.dk *^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^*^^* -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: [q] Moving to Google Groups
On Jan 27, 2006, at 5:12 PM, Tina Holm wrote: does this mean that the lists will all turn into some forum-like stuff and will stop working like standard maillists? I hope not :-( /tina A lot of discussion activities have moved to web forum formats, which I am not fond of either. Some do retain the email type capabilities and I think Google groups does. Perhaps those of us that like will find new messages from people who like like a forum based messages. At the age of our Macs forums or email probably serves more for camaraderie than for support. It has been a long time since I have had trouble with my Quadra 840. There remains things I wish with it though. With the way the internet is moving perhaps soon the old Quadras will be the last place where we have local data. bill -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com