Re: [q] Sorry, I won't do google groups

2006-01-31 Thread James Fraser
on 1/29/06 4:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 but half the time the Google page causes my browser (Mozilla) to freeze or
 quit. So I was  disappointed to read of the move of some Low-end lists to
Google groups. Even so, I tried to sign on but Google says (quite incorrectly)
that I don't have  cookies enabled and cannot sign up.

I *think* that this might be a bug in Mozilla.  I ass-ume you're using the
WaMCom version (1.3.1)?

IIRC, I went through shades of the same thing in '04 when I lost my mind
(IMO) and signed up for gmail.  It seemed that with Mozilla, if I downloaded
it and left it alone (i.e. did not disable cookies or mess about with any
of the cookies options), I could go to sites requiring cookies with no
problem.  

In the case of gmail, though, I encountered the same problem you did.  I had
selected the disable cookies option before faffing about with gmail.  Even
after I enabled cookies and left the browser wide open, I still got the same
you need to enable cookies message.  Rebooting the machine produced no
change.  At that point, I simply decided that I was done fooling around with
gmail and wrote it off.

 So has it come to the point where even an email list about vintage macs
 requires OSX and the latest browser? If that is really the case, I'll be
 saying goodbye as well.

I dunno about the latest borwser bit.  WaMCom Mozilla turns 3 years old in
July this year (if I'm not mistaken).  In Internet terms, it's ancient.

As much as I enjoy wringing the most out my older hardware, it seems that
there's a point of diminishing returns.  Me, I'm hoping I can use the WaMCom
Mozilla for another couple years, but I readily acknowledge that this might
be Wishful Thinking on my part because there are already some things I can't
do with it. :/

Best,

James Fraser


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Re: [q] Sorry, I won't do google groups

2006-01-31 Thread NODEraser
I have used Gmail on my PB 520 with Netscape (don't remember if it's
version 3 or 4)  without many problems. Every now and then I'll get a
broken pipe error, but not too often.

On 1/31/06, James Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 on 1/29/06 4:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  but half the time the Google page causes my browser (Mozilla) to freeze or
  quit. So I was  disappointed to read of the move of some Low-end lists to
 Google groups. Even so, I tried to sign on but Google says (quite 
 incorrectly)
 that I don't have  cookies enabled and cannot sign up.

 I *think* that this might be a bug in Mozilla.  I ass-ume you're using the
 WaMCom version (1.3.1)?

 IIRC, I went through shades of the same thing in '04 when I lost my mind
 (IMO) and signed up for gmail.  It seemed that with Mozilla, if I downloaded
 it and left it alone (i.e. did not disable cookies or mess about with any
 of the cookies options), I could go to sites requiring cookies with no
 problem.

 In the case of gmail, though, I encountered the same problem you did.  I had
 selected the disable cookies option before faffing about with gmail.  Even
 after I enabled cookies and left the browser wide open, I still got the same
 you need to enable cookies message.  Rebooting the machine produced no
 change.  At that point, I simply decided that I was done fooling around with
 gmail and wrote it off.

  So has it come to the point where even an email list about vintage macs
  requires OSX and the latest browser? If that is really the case, I'll be
  saying goodbye as well.

 I dunno about the latest borwser bit.  WaMCom Mozilla turns 3 years old in
 July this year (if I'm not mistaken).  In Internet terms, it's ancient.

 As much as I enjoy wringing the most out my older hardware, it seems that
 there's a point of diminishing returns.  Me, I'm hoping I can use the WaMCom
 Mozilla for another couple years, but I readily acknowledge that this might
 be Wishful Thinking on my part because there are already some things I can't
 do with it. :/

 Best,

 James Fraser


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Re: [q] Sorry, I won't do google groups.

2006-01-29 Thread Simon Kershaw

Paul Stamsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote


On 1/28/06, at 12:54 PM -0800, Stephen Jones wrote:


Indeed many of us are now boycotting google due to their capitulation

(snip)

 The above subject is off-topic for all low-end-mac lists.


How is it off topic to comment on the rehosting of the group?

simon
who rather wonders if that's the same sort of censorship that the 
Chinese have forced Google to do :-)


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Re: [q] Sorry, I won't do google groups

2006-01-29 Thread Ken
My Reply follows quote. On 29/01/2006 16:39 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:  

I've been following Quadlist nearly since the beginning, and more recently 
PCI-List. 
Last December I signed up for a Gmail account as a back-up , but half 
the 
time the Google page causes my browser (Mozilla) to freeze or quit. So I was 
disappointed to read of the move of some Low-end lists to Google groups. 
Even 
so, I tried to sign on but Google says (quite incorrectly) that I don't have 
cookies enabled and cannot sign up. 
So has it come to the point where even an email list about vintage macs 
requires OSX and the latest browser? If that is really the case, I'll be 
saying 
goodbye as well.
So long, and thanks for all the fish!
E. Holub
(C650, Q840, Q950, D2300, PM 8500, PM 9600, WGS 9650)

Well, I signed up via email using Claris EMailer 2. No need to go to
the web at all.

Ken

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Re: [q] Sorry, I won't do google groups

2006-01-29 Thread Megalonyx
I've been following Quadlist nearly since the beginning, and more recently 
PCI-List. 
Last December I signed up for a Gmail account as a back-up , but half the 
time the Google page causes my browser (Mozilla) to freeze or quit. So I was 
disappointed to read of the move of some Low-end lists to Google groups. Even 
so, I tried to sign on but Google says (quite incorrectly) that I don't have 
cookies enabled and cannot sign up. 
So has it come to the point where even an email list about vintage macs 
requires OSX and the latest browser? If that is really the case, I'll be saying 
goodbye as well.
So long, and thanks for all the fish!
E. Holub
(C650, Q840, Q950, D2300, PM 8500, PM 9600, WGS 9650)

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Re: [q] Sorry, I won't do google groups.

2006-01-29 Thread Paul Stamsen
My reply follows quote.

On 1/29/06, at 8:55 PM +, Simon Kershaw wrote:

How is it off topic to comment on the rehosting of the group?

It is off-topic to comment on the politics of google.

 And to deliberately retain the subject is asking for trouble IMHO.

I will send Simon a copy of the rules so he can read for himself. Anyone
else should go to the Low end macs website as noted in the footers.

 So far nobody's been banned. All further on-list comments will be though,
I've let enough time pass for the digesters to get the message.

 (I won't debate this issue, but maybe Dan will. He's at Dan Knight
[EMAIL PROTECTED]. But feel free to contact me at my e-mail below.


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[q] Sorry, I won't do google groups.

2006-01-28 Thread Stephen Jones
Indeed many of us are now boycotting google due to their capitulation  
to the Chinese beliefs that:


1. Their citizens should be protected from truth and opinion
2. That dogs and cats are perfect substitutes for animal fur
3. That mandatory abortions rather than mandatory sterilization is  
appropriate

4. That yellow, blue and green rivers flowing into Russia are OK
5. That the Japanese still owe them 'something'
6. That after the tsunami land grabbing in SE Asia rather than  
helping victims was cool

7. That drilling for oil in Japanese waters is their right
8. That Tibet does not exist
9. That imports from the US should have a 25% tariff
10. That exports to the US should have a 2% tariff
11. That Taiwan should be brought back into the 'mother land'

et cetera ..

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Re: [q] Sorry, I won't do google groups.

2006-01-28 Thread Paul Stamsen
My reply follows quote.

On 1/28/06, at 12:54 PM -0800, Stephen Jones wrote:

Indeed many of us are now boycotting google due to their capitulation
(snip)


 The above subject is off-topic for all low-end-mac lists.

Further comments on this or similar threads (including any spurious free
speech claims) will result in immediate banning on this and the PCI
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