Re: [qubes-devel] What are we gonna do about Intel's move to kill off LegacyBios before 2020?

2018-03-31 Thread Thierry Laurion
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Re: [qubes-devel] What are we gonna do about Intel's move to kill off LegacyBios before 2020?

2018-03-29 Thread taii...@gmx.com
I believe soon we will be seeing an "Intel will be forcing Secure Boot by 2025" news article with all the usual talking head idiots saying that such a thing is fine because red hat provides a signed kernel and grub so you can "still run linux" (their linux, not yours) I believe by 2030 only

Re: [qubes-devel] What are we gonna do about Intel's move to kill off LegacyBios before 2020?

2018-03-16 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 03/16/2018 11:52 AM, 'awokd' via qubes-devel wrote: On Fri, March 16, 2018 2:50 pm, taii...@gmx.com wrote: As always I suggest encouraging the xen developers to accept help (from raptor and IBM) to port xen to POWER When I felt them out on it, I got the impression they were welcoming help

Re: [qubes-devel] What are we gonna do about Intel's move to kill off LegacyBios before 2020?

2018-03-16 Thread Yuraeitha
On Friday, March 16, 2018 at 4:52:47 PM UTC+1, awokd wrote: > On Fri, March 16, 2018 2:50 pm, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > > > As always I suggest encouraging the xen developers to accept help (from > > raptor and IBM) to port xen to POWER > > When I felt them out on it, I got the impression they

Re: [qubes-devel] What are we gonna do about Intel's move to kill off LegacyBios before 2020?

2018-03-16 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-devel
On Fri, March 16, 2018 2:50 pm, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > As always I suggest encouraging the xen developers to accept help (from > raptor and IBM) to port xen to POWER When I felt them out on it, I got the impression they were welcoming help from anybody on porting Xen to POWER.

Re: [qubes-devel] What are we gonna do about Intel's move to kill off LegacyBios before 2020?

2018-03-16 Thread taii...@gmx.com
Lets not use Intel's terms here, use "BIOS" instead of "LegacyBIOS" UEFI is not at all better. Remember folks if something is truly a good thing people don't need to be forced to use it. As always I suggest encouraging the xen developers to accept help (from raptor and IBM) to port xen to

Re: [qubes-devel] What are we gonna do about Intel's move to kill off LegacyBios before 2020?

2018-03-16 Thread Yuraeitha
On Friday, March 16, 2018 at 2:07:09 PM UTC+1, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 05:42:30AM -0700, Yuraeitha wrote: > > This is some months old news now from November 2017, and may already be in > > the plans to fix,

Re: [qubes-devel] What are we gonna do about Intel's move to kill off LegacyBios before 2020?

2018-03-16 Thread Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 05:42:30AM -0700, Yuraeitha wrote: > This is some months old news now from November 2017, and may already be in > the plans to fix, however, I'm putting this forward as I'm not aware of any > existing discussions on the

[qubes-devel] What are we gonna do about Intel's move to kill off LegacyBios before 2020?

2018-03-16 Thread Yuraeitha
This is some months old news now from November 2017, and may already be in the plans to fix, however, I'm putting this forward as I'm not aware of any existing discussions on the matter, this is only an insurance so that we're not caught un-prepared for Intel's frustrating lock-in move. I