[qubes-users] Re: Hello, can someone please help me with my first qubes computer?

[Malin Fylking]

Okay, thanks for the help.
Sounds like this computer will be a good first Qubes OS computer for me to 
learn on then.

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[qubes-users] Re: Hello, can someone please help me with my first qubes computer?

[Drew White]

On Friday, 18 August 2017 12:07:08 UTC+10, Malin Fylking  wrote:
> Was thinking about bugs / crashes because of the hardware.
> Do you think it's a good computer for Qubes OS?

It's functional.

As per all PC's, you will have crashes every now and again because they use 
SystemD instead of SysV.

Which is why I have been trying to get a Slackware version working properly, 
but still tough to convert everything to get it installed and working.

If you remember to kill off the QubesVM Manager every now and again, as well as 
pause your guests (Fedora based) when you are going AFK overnight or for a 
while, then that will lessen the amount of crashes you will have.

I use an HP 4650b with Qubes, and that functions fine with 8 GB RAM and a Quad 
Core i7. 

Since it had Win7 on it, you can install Win7 into a Guest, then register using 
your key. So that is one good thing.

I run Qubes on a lot of older hardware as well as some not so old hardware.

My PC that I run it on has 24 GB RAM and a hyperthreaded Hex Core Xeon.

And I have this thing loaded to bare. I run 15+ Guests most of the time.
That includes 1 NetVM and 2 ProxyVMs.

My PC only locks every now and again when I have something that is built into 
Qubes go haywire. 

Don't run FF under Fedora and leave it for the weekend. That will lock things 
up if you have too many things open.
Close the Qubes Manager When you are going away overnight even. My Qubes 
Manager, when I boot starts about 1 GB RAM. After a day, it's used 75% of the 
Dom0 RAM. When it hits 80% or more, it generally locks the PC and I have to 
force a restart by powering off, not shutting down cleanly.

So if you base your Laptop off the PC that I use and how hard I run it, you can 
get an idea of what you could do with your Laptop and the stability.


My 4thread laptop with 8 GB RAM. I can typically run 4-5 guests without hastle.
XEN is very good at management that way. NetVM and ProxyVM running with only 
512MB RAM, 1 thread max. so that leaves 7GB for everything Else. I have my Dom0 
set to 2 GB RAM. So that leaves 5 for Guests.
I customised my Laptop version for maximum efficiency since it's not the 
workhorse my Desktop is. It's just a portable version for general work.

My Desktop runs with 5 monitors at times. Generally I just run 2-3 depending on 
what I am doing and how much I am working on. I have it set for 7 virtual 
desktops.

I have my own person self-built Qubes Suite working and doing most of the 
things I need it to do.
Typically I have about 80 windows open at any one time on a slow day.

Hope that this information is useful for you.

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[qubes-users] Re: Hello, can someone please help me with my first qubes computer?

[Malin Fylking]

Was thinking about bugs / crashes because of the hardware.
Do you think it's a good computer for Qubes OS?

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Re: [qubes-users] Win 7, Qubes 3.2, qubes-windows-tools 3.2.2-3 struggles

[Drew White]

On Tuesday, 15 August 2017 03:19:03 UTC+10, Daniel Nelson  wrote:
> Thanks for all the additional notes.  Everything you did perfectly matched 
> what I've done  except that I also had to copy the win7.conf and edit it to 
> change the video from "xen" to "cirrus," which is also pretty well documented 
> in various places.  I had to do this both during Windows install, and then 
> again during QWT install, but it worked as advertised.
> The one thing I've not done too much fiddling with is the resolution.  I've 
> tried 1024x768 without joy.  I will continue to investigate further with 
> different resolutions, and I will try also to more permanently change the 
> video driver in use.
> 
> Thanks again!

Why do you all have to change from Xen to Cirrus in the config?

I use XEN as my video. And I have no issue with many graphical things now.

Only time I have issues is when I try to start the Windows Guest when I'm 
running 5 monitors. As long as I start it with only 1, then proceed to add the 
rest, it's fine. But I've said all this before so I swill not repeat it all 
over again.

But that's the only real issue I have with the video side of it.

So I am just curious as to why so many people I see are having to change to 
Cirrus from XEN?

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[qubes-users] Re: Windows 7 problems (R3.2)

[Drew White]

On Friday, 11 August 2017 03:38:04 UTC+10, hugon...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> Installed everything, had to use this method 
> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2488, and now it "works". 

The issues people have are not existant in that github post.

All you have to do is create a template and load the iso/dvd in and perform the 
install.

During the install, make sure to say LET ME CHOOSE LATER when it asks you about 
windows updates otherwise you will encounter the memory leak in wusa.

If you are running Qubes 3.2, not an RC, then it will run seamless and near 
perfect for Windows 7.

I run Windows 1 through Windows 8 perfectly. Windows 7 is the only one that I 
run Seamless though, because the tools are not designed for any other version 
(at this time)

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[qubes-users] Re: Windows 7 problems (R3.2)

[Drew White]

On Friday, 11 August 2017 03:38:04 UTC+10, hugon...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> Installed everything, had to use this method 
> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2488, and now it "works". 
> 
> If I start the VM in Seemless GUI, it goes on but doesn't open any 
> application (with and without debug mode on). 

This happens with Windows HVM if you install a version of the tools with the 
bug, version pre 3 or 3.0.2 or later (unless resolved)
If you are running multiple monitors this will also occurr.

> If I start the VM without Seemless GUI, it only goes on with debug mode on, 
> otherwise it'll follow the above pattern.
 
If this happens then that means you have not got it turned off in the TEMPLATE?
Run the qvm-prefs on the template and the appvm.

If seamless is on in the template, then the appvm will have seamless whether or 
not you want it on or off.

> Also, 2nd problem, I've installed MS Office, I've copied the shortcuts to the 
> "All Programs" folder and I'm unable to find them in the "Applications" tab 
> in the VM config. Is there anything I can do? Also, other installed 
> programmes don't appear on the list, it's not just Office.

If it isn't in the template, then you need to run the "qvm-sync-appmenus" on 
the template.
If it is not a template then it will not run.

Otherwise, you can get the menu editor and add in your own shortcuts, instead 
of using their method that does not work correctly for Windows. (Nothing ever 
works right for Windows)

> 
> Thanks for your time!
> 
> Hugo

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[qubes-users] Re: Several issues

[Drew White]

4. Qubes VM Manager is still getting worse..
  - I updated, and the RAM usage for it went through the roof.
  - After not long it consumed 90% of Dom0 RAM availability.

  - You have a memory leak in it somewhere, or else it isn't cleaning up the 
trash properly.
  - I only have 27 templates, 13 standalone, 31 app vms, 5 proxy vm, 3 netvm.

  - What is it that is happenning in the manager to cause it to consume so much 
RAM?
>- I am NOT running the graphs for CPU or RAM over time, so that's one 
issue that should not be there.

5. Firewall rules need to be able to be turned off/on at will, still having 
them in the list is good, but being able to turn them off when one needs to, 
would be an advantage.
   - e.g. I have 12 rules. I want 10 active all the time and 2 to be able to be 
turned on and off when I need them to be on.
   - Just simple check box's would be good.

6. The Manager has this stupid "enter the machine name to delete" when I try to 
delete a guest. I clicked the remove vm for a reason, a simple confirmation 
dialogue would suffice.
   - Add in a ADVANCED USER feature that I suggested a year ago.




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[qubes-users] Re: Hello, can someone please help me with my first qubes computer?

[Drew White]

On Friday, 18 August 2017 09:13:14 UTC+10, Malin Fylking  wrote:
> Intel Core i7-5600U Processor (2.60GHz), 
> 20.0GB RAM, 256GB SSD, 
> Windows 7 Professional 
> 14.0in 1920x1080 Multitouch, 
> Intel HD Graphics 5500, 
> 720p HD Camera, 
> Media Card Reader, 
> UltraNav (), Ethernet, 
> Intel Wireless 7265AC(2x2)+BT4.0 M.2 Combo, 
> Bluetooth 4.0, 
> 3 Cell Li-Polymer
> Model ID: 20bx001cus
> 
> Will this run Qubes OS and be "safe"?

Yes it will run it, and quite well.

How "safe" do you want to be?
What "safe" are you referring to?
  - Crashing?
  - Locking?
  - Malware?
  - Hackers?

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[qubes-users] Several issues

[Drew White]

Hi folks,

been a while since I have been here because there have not been many issues I 
could not overcome or workaround easily.

There have been a few issues recently that I have no workaround for.

1. The restoration utility.
  - Instead of being thinly allocated, the images are now thick.
  - Where they used to take up 7 GB on a 60GB maximum image, they now consume 
the full 60 GB when restored.

2. The USB-VM causes my laptop to have no USB available to it apart from the 
keyboard and mouse that are built in.
  - I can't see any other things.
  - Everything that is plugged in turns on then turns off and then is 
unaccessable via the usb-vm.
  - When there is no usb-vm everything works properly through dom0.

3. I can't install SysV init. I don't want SystemD. If I wanted windows I would 
use Windows instead of Linux.
  - Has anyone got a successful Slackware version running yet please?

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Q4.0 upgrade path ? Guesstimate when does it turn into "stable" ? 3) re: security advisorys, is there ever any suggestion what to do about them?

[yreb-qusw]

On 08/17/2017 06:25 AM, Ted Brenner wrote:

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 1:23 AM, yreb-qusw  wrote:


On 08/15/2017 05:13 PM, yreb-qusw wrote:


Q4.0 upgrade path ?  am I eventually going to have to reinstall  as Q4.0
or will it be 3.2  be 'upgradeable' ?







One of the pages
has a
schedule. I believe there are 5 weeks between release candidates with a
maximum of 3 candidates. So that would be 15 weeks before stable? RC1 was
July 31st. So stable could be November 13th at the latest? This is my best
guess.




Will It be requiring reinstall or will there be some way  to upgrade 
withOUT reinstalling ,  would you happen to know?


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[qubes-users] Network setup - TORVM-VPNVM

[james . buttler1975]

I'm just starting to use qubes os and I'm trying to understand how it all works.

If I wanted to setup the system to route all my traffic through tor and then 
that tor traffic through a vpn 

Would I simply setup a TORVM with Its netVM being the vpnvm ?

Or can a netVM not have its own netVM? 

Thanks for the help

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[qubes-users] Hello, can someone please help me with my first qubes computer?

[Malin Fylking]

Intel Core i7-5600U Processor (2.60GHz), 
20.0GB RAM, 256GB SSD, 
Windows 7 Professional 
14.0in 1920x1080 Multitouch, 
Intel HD Graphics 5500, 
720p HD Camera, 
Media Card Reader, 
UltraNav (), Ethernet, 
Intel Wireless 7265AC(2x2)+BT4.0 M.2 Combo, 
Bluetooth 4.0, 
3 Cell Li-Polymer
Model ID: 20bx001cus

Will this run Qubes OS and be "safe"?

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Re: [qubes-users] latest qubes update cause network problems

[Kolja Weber]

Thanks for the hint.
Ethernet works for me too, i will try to blacklist the driver.
> On 08/17/2017 03:56 AM, Kolja Weber wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> at first: thanks for the great work on qubes, it is amazing.
>>
>> i discover since the last update on 3.2 problems with my network in case
>> i suspend my T550 to ram. All VMs wake up fine including the network VM
>> but it doesent reconize any wlan (no networks show up), lan not tested yet.
>>
>> Vm restart doesent solve it, only way to get it back is a full reboot.
>> Any changes in the xen kernel related to wlan driver?
>>
>> Kolja
> I appear to have this same problem as well. Ethernet works, but after
> suspend wifi breaks. It looks like it's this issue:
> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3008
>

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[qubes-users] Re: Using USB device with Windows 7 HVM?

[Sven Semmler]

On 08/17/2017 12:53 PM, Yethal wrote:
> Issue might be resolved by adding iommu=no-igfx to GRUB config

Thank you very much Yethal!

Yes, it resolved my graphics issues. I am now able to run Qubes with
VT-d enabled. :-)

I am also able to assign the USB controller to the Windows HWM! :-)

That means I can use USB either exclusively in the Windows HWM or via
sys-usb with all the other AppVMs and an external mouse. That's a
compromise I can live with.

Again, thank you. I could have used a second laptop running windows to
capture data, but this is far more convenient.

/Sven


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[qubes-users] Re: Using USB device with Windows 7 HVM?

[Yethal]

W dniu środa, 16 sierpnia 2017 22:39:21 UTC+2 użytkownik Sven Semmler napisał:
> On 08/16/2017 02:53 PM, Yethal wrote:
> > 1. VT-d is not enabled on your machine. In this case go to bios and 
> > enable it.
> 
> It isn't. I am running Qubes 3.2 on a DELL Latitude E6410 ... which has
> the issue that he Intel Graphics stop working as soon as VT-d is
> enabled. At least that was the case for the installer. I will confirm
> whether I can enable it after the install, but the HCL comment for the
> E6410 doesn't make me optimistic:
> 
> > Intel graphics unusable with enabled VT-d
> 
> Thank you for pointing this out.
> 
> /Sven
> 
> 
> [1] https://www.qubes-os.org/hcl/#hardware-laptops

Issue might be resolved by adding iommu=no-igfx to GRUB config

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[qubes-users] Re: Build a power efficent and silent desktopsystem for Qubes-OS

[Yethal]

W dniu czwartek, 17 sierpnia 2017 05:31:39 UTC+2 użytkownik ludwig jaffe 
napisał:
> Am Mittwoch, 16. August 2017 06:30:39 UTC-4 schrieb bored lord:
> > Hello Guys,
> > 
> > i sitting here next to a Desktop PC which is almost as loud as a freaking 
> > datacenter. Due to my old gaming habbits its not supposed to be silent, nor 
> > energyefficent.
> > 
> > I am in love with qubes-os for my daily struggles and tasks ;-).
> > 
> > But, i'd appreciate to have a system which won't start up every fan 
> > possible once i start another vm.
> > 
> > So i am looking forward to build a small, energyefficent and silent system, 
> > which will run qubes-os ootb without any problems.
> > 
> > As i happen to be a dad now, busy splitting my time between family, 
> > projects and work. I'd appreciate your guys help for building a 
> > micro/miniATX PC for Qubes OS
> > 
> > Specs:
> > 
> > - +16GB RAM
> > - +512GB SSD
> > - if possible a small nvidia-card for cuda and some occasional gaming. (not 
> > mandatory), 
> > - Dual-Head-Graphics (uHD) is Mandatory
> > - WIFI (Mandatory)
> > 
> > i'd love to build it by using a case comparable to the Thermaltake 
> > CA-1D5-00S1WN-00 Black SPCC Micro ATX 
> > (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2F84EA2140)
> > 
> > 
> > Any ideas? i'd really appreciate your help.
> 
> MORE RAM!
> 
> 16GB is not enough.
> Have 32GB or more as there are many VMs to play with. All of them eat a lot 
> of RAM.
> Think about 4GB per VM if you use 64Bit OS. The 64Bit systems are more 
> wasteful
> with memory as most things are now 8-byte aligned, so any variable uses 
> 8-byte even if it is shorter like char or uint32. Maybe there are some 
> space-optimized libraries but for performance reasons, as 64bit machine works 
> with bigger natural address spacing, the data in RAM will be aligned for the 
> 64bit machine, eating almost double of it!
> Or use 32bit VM Guests for some minor stuff.
> 
> Memory is like engine displacement it can only be substituted by more engine 
> displacement or more memory, respectively

Yeah, got to agree here, there are no diminishing returns when it comes to RAM 
on Qubes OS

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Re: [qubes-users] latest qubes update cause network problems

[Micah Lee]

On 08/17/2017 03:56 AM, Kolja Weber wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> at first: thanks for the great work on qubes, it is amazing.
> 
> i discover since the last update on 3.2 problems with my network in case
> i suspend my T550 to ram. All VMs wake up fine including the network VM
> but it doesent reconize any wlan (no networks show up), lan not tested yet.
> 
> Vm restart doesent solve it, only way to get it back is a full reboot.
> Any changes in the xen kernel related to wlan driver?
> 
> Kolja

I appear to have this same problem as well. Ethernet works, but after
suspend wifi breaks. It looks like it's this issue:
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3008

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Re: [qubes-users] X230 2325-YBN + Coreboot

[David Hobach]

On 08/16/2017 06:09 PM, Rusty Bird wrote:

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Finsh:

are there by chance any known Problems with the X230 2325-YBN + Coreboot with 
cubes os?


If it's R3.2 and you're using SeaBIOS, check out the last paragraph of
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2553#issuecomment-284367521


For 4.0rc1 there's currently also some issue with the iommu=no-gfx boot 
option. Try removing that.


Other than that we'd need more info for support.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Q4.0 upgrade path ? Guesstimate when does it turn into "stable" ? 3) re: security advisorys, is there ever any suggestion what to do about them?

[Ted Brenner]

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 1:23 AM, yreb-qusw  wrote:

> On 08/15/2017 05:13 PM, yreb-qusw wrote:
>
>> Q4.0 upgrade path ?  am I eventually going to have to reinstall  as Q4.0
>> or will it be 3.2  be 'upgradeable' ?
>>
>>
>> Guesstimate when does it turn into "stable" ?
>>
>>
>> 3) re: security advisorys, is there ever any suggestion what to do about
>> them?
>> .or just keep upgrading dom0  and  magically  some of them get fixed ?
>>
>>
>> seem like obvious questions to me , sorry if they are basic
>>
>
>
One of the pages
has a
schedule. I believe there are 5 weeks between release candidates with a
maximum of 3 candidates. So that would be 15 weeks before stable? RC1 was
July 31st. So stable could be November 13th at the latest? This is my best
guess.


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[qubes-users] Update upgrade the whole system

[srv-net-foren]

Hello
i have Qubes-R4.0-rc1-x86_64 - if there is a update how do i have to 
update/upgrade the whole System?

have a nice day

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[qubes-users] Re: X230 2325-YBN + Coreboot

[Finsh]

Update: RustyBird, it worked.

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[qubes-users] latest qubes update cause network problems

[Kolja Weber]

Hello,

at first: thanks for the great work on qubes, it is amazing.

i discover since the last update on 3.2 problems with my network in case
i suspend my T550 to ram. All VMs wake up fine including the network VM
but it doesent reconize any wlan (no networks show up), lan not tested yet.

Vm restart doesent solve it, only way to get it back is a full reboot.
Any changes in the xen kernel related to wlan driver?

Kolja


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[qubes-users] Noobish Question about Language config.

[Finsh]

Hello Guys,
 
i have a noobish Question.I installed Qubes on a PC with english keyboard 
layout, and then put the Harddrive in one with a Germany layout.I wan the 
system Language to be english(ts German now) , but the Keyboard Layout to be 
German.

so i simply changed the Keyboard settings with the System Tools and the 
systemlanguage with the command line:

as root:
nano /etc/locale.conf
LANG="en_US.utf-8"
source /etc/locale.conf

However, when i boot the system, i still have to type The diskpassword and 
usser-pw with an English Layout for the first time, and the systemtools Menü is 
still German.
Is it because i only change the language for root? How do i change it for 
non-privileged user ?

echo

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[qubes-users] HCL - Thinkpad T430

[AnDee Lim]

Hello Qubes Team,

Awesome work so far!

I had issues with the official USB/DVD installer, tried everything, UEFI,
no UEFI, disabling virtualization etc. Finally installer worked when I used
the Fedora livecd generator discussed here instead.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/qubes-users/4VsKdxnKHBk

Other than installation, everything works near perfectly!

nota bene - thinkpad CPU is non-default, upgraded to i7-3632QM

Hope this helps!
naede

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