Re: [qubes-users] Re: The NitroPC Pro is Qubes-certified!
On 9/7/23 1:38 PM, Leo28C wrote: > Is it "not certified" as in it doesn't run at all, or is it just to stop > people from paying an extra 3 grand when the OS is software-rendered? > When Nitrokey asked for the NitroPC Pro to be Qubes-certified, they did not ask for any discrete graphics configurations to be included in the evaluation, so the Qubes hardware certification team has not tested any such configuration. On 9/7/23 5:15 PM, Sven Semmler wrote: > Certification includes giving one machine to the Qubes OS team, so it can be > used in ongoing regression testing. It appears Nitrokey has provided the > variant without the discrete GPU [...] > This is correct, except that it is actually two units: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/certified-hardware/#hardware-certification-process -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/d04e85fb-dc7b-d55c-4429-0a07e7791af8%40qubes-os.org.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: The NitroPC Pro is Qubes-certified!
Certification includes giving one machine to the Qubes OS team, so it can be used in ongoing regression testing. It appears Nitrokey has provided the variant without the discrete GPU, which makes sense since Nvidia GPU usually are quite troublesome for FOSS in general and Qubes OS in particular. Nitrokey is also selling this machine with Ubuntu targeting maybe people with scientific (GPU) needs (or maybe even gaming). -- https://keys.openpgp.org/vks/v1/by-fingerprint/0C276715E93D4CE54007BDBF54EB584E8668B05F -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/5f65073d-2e38-9485-ce87-b04b5bd121e9%40SvenSemmler.org.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: The NitroPC Pro is Qubes-certified!
Is it "not certified" as in it doesn't run at all, or is it just to stop people from paying an extra 3 grand when the OS is software-rendered? Nitro folk might want to consider testing a Windows passthrough qube with them fancy GPUs they have... if it actually works then they could totally market the machine to paranoid gamers and raise the price. I know I would give up one of my extremities for a machine that can play my favorite games, run my favorite qubes, and most crucially, do it all without any filthy gubbyment-sponsored hardware-level spyware. Hell, I could replace my entire home lab with a single machine. Just an idea ;D On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 3:28 AM Andrew David Wong wrote: > On 9/6/23 10:57 AM, Andrew David Wong wrote: > > Dear Qubes Community, > > > > It is our pleasure to announce that the [NitroPC Pro]( > https://shop.nitrokey.com/shop/product/nitropc-pro-523) is [officially > certified](https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/certified-hardware/) for Qubes OS > Release 4! > > > > ## The NitroPC Pro: a secure, powerful workstation > > > > The [NitroPC Pro](https://shop.nitrokey.com/shop/product/nitropc-pro-523) > is a workstation for high security and performance requirements. The > open-source [Dasharo coreboot](https://github.com/Dasharo/coreboot) > firmware ensures high transparency and security while avoiding backdoors > and security holes in the firmware. The device is certified for > compatibility with Qubes OS 4.X by the Qubes developers. Carefully selected > components ensure high performance, stability, and durability. The Dasharo > Entry Subscription guarantees continuous firmware development and fast > firmware updates. > > > > [![Photo of NitroPC Pro]( > https://www.qubes-os.org/attachment/posts/nitropc-pro.jpg)](https://shop.nitrokey.com/shop/product/nitropc-pro-523 > ) > > > > Here's a summary of the main component options available for this > mid-tower desktop PC: > > > > | Component| Options > | > > |- | > | > > | Motherboard | MSI PRO Z690-A DDR5 (Wi-Fi optional) > | > > | Processor| 12th Generation Intel Core i5-12600K or > i9-12900K| > > | Memory | 16 GB to 128 GB DDR5 > | > > | NVMe storage (optional) | Up to two NVMe PCIe 4.0 x4 SSDs, up to > 2 TB each | > > | SATA storage (optional) | Up to two SATA SSDs, up to 7.68 TB > each | > > | Integrated graphics | Intel UHD 770 > | > > | Discrete graphics (optional) | Nvidia Geforce RTX 4070 or 4090 > | > > | Wireless (optional) | Wi-Fi 6E, 2400 Mbps, > 802.11/a/b/g/n/ac/ax, Bluetooth 5.2 | > > | Operating system (optional) | Qubes OS 4.1 or Ubuntu 22.04 LTS > | > > > > [...] > > > > *Important addendum*: As indicated in the table above, when configuring > your NitroPC Pro on the Nitrokey website, there is an option for a discrete > graphics card (e.g., Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 or 4090) in addition to > integrated graphics (e.g., Intel UHD 770, which is always included because > it is physically built into the CPU). Please note that NitroPC Pro > configurations that include discrete graphics cards are *not* > Qubes-certified. The only NitroPC Pro configurations that are > Qubes-certified are those that contain *only* integrated graphics. > > > > > This announcement is also available on the Qubes website: > > https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2023/09/06/nitropc-pro-qubes-certified/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "qubes-users" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/43000146-1ac7-8419-0e9f-9565f970db97%40qubes-os.org > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/CAALhvVadrasb-juiNcnCGmBEHdE%3D6jLN%2BiZJYoqJq_MpazdVzw%40mail.gmail.com.
[qubes-users] Re: The NitroPC Pro is Qubes-certified!
On 9/6/23 10:57 AM, Andrew David Wong wrote: > Dear Qubes Community, > > It is our pleasure to announce that the [NitroPC > Pro](https://shop.nitrokey.com/shop/product/nitropc-pro-523) is [officially > certified](https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/certified-hardware/) for Qubes OS > Release 4! > > ## The NitroPC Pro: a secure, powerful workstation > > The [NitroPC Pro](https://shop.nitrokey.com/shop/product/nitropc-pro-523) is > a workstation for high security and performance requirements. The open-source > [Dasharo coreboot](https://github.com/Dasharo/coreboot) firmware ensures high > transparency and security while avoiding backdoors and security holes in the > firmware. The device is certified for compatibility with Qubes OS 4.X by the > Qubes developers. Carefully selected components ensure high performance, > stability, and durability. The Dasharo Entry Subscription guarantees > continuous firmware development and fast firmware updates. > > [![Photo of NitroPC > Pro](https://www.qubes-os.org/attachment/posts/nitropc-pro.jpg)](https://shop.nitrokey.com/shop/product/nitropc-pro-523) > > Here's a summary of the main component options available for this mid-tower > desktop PC: > > | Component| Options > | > |- | > | > | Motherboard | MSI PRO Z690-A DDR5 (Wi-Fi optional) > | > | Processor| 12th Generation Intel Core i5-12600K or > i9-12900K| > | Memory | 16 GB to 128 GB DDR5 > | > | NVMe storage (optional) | Up to two NVMe PCIe 4.0 x4 SSDs, up to 2 TB > each | > | SATA storage (optional) | Up to two SATA SSDs, up to 7.68 TB each > | > | Integrated graphics | Intel UHD 770 > | > | Discrete graphics (optional) | Nvidia Geforce RTX 4070 or 4090 > | > | Wireless (optional) | Wi-Fi 6E, 2400 Mbps, 802.11/a/b/g/n/ac/ax, > Bluetooth 5.2 | > | Operating system (optional) | Qubes OS 4.1 or Ubuntu 22.04 LTS > | > > [...] > *Important addendum*: As indicated in the table above, when configuring your NitroPC Pro on the Nitrokey website, there is an option for a discrete graphics card (e.g., Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 or 4090) in addition to integrated graphics (e.g., Intel UHD 770, which is always included because it is physically built into the CPU). Please note that NitroPC Pro configurations that include discrete graphics cards are *not* Qubes-certified. The only NitroPC Pro configurations that are Qubes-certified are those that contain *only* integrated graphics. > > This announcement is also available on the Qubes website: > https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2023/09/06/nitropc-pro-qubes-certified/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/43000146-1ac7-8419-0e9f-9565f970db97%40qubes-os.org.