Re: [qubes-users] Propspect : When upgrading to the next stable version of Qubes 4.0XXX

2017-11-12 Thread Alexandre Brutelle
Thank you for such a detailed reply Yuraeitha !

This was the occasion to see the laptop I specifically got to run Qubes
very recently isn't listed as compatible with Qubes 4... ! It's not listed
as incompatible either, just no information. But I can just try it myself
when the times come.

Perhaps I should checked that out before.

Anyway this was such an adventure to make it run properly for what I
intended to do with it (an adventure I don't regret a single bit because it
taught me some new things), that I wasn't really planning on upgrading it
tomorrow...

Hope to be able to use it a bit more before it becomes obsolete
security-wise.


On 12 November 2017 at 09:57, Yuraeitha <yuraei...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sunday, November 12, 2017 at 7:49:25 AM UTC, Alexandre Brutelle wrote:
> > Thank you for your reply !
> >
> > Do you think such upgrade to the next stable version will happen anytime
> soon ?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12 November 2017 at 00:47, Andrew David Wong <a...@qubes-os.org>
> wrote:
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> > On 2017-11-11 13:01, brutelle...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > > When there will be a stable supported version of Qubes 4., and I
> >
> > > upgrade, will I be able to keep all my set ups and docs on each on
> >
> > >  my VM's ?
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Or will I have to wipe it all in order to upgrade and install the
> >
> > > new version ?
> >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > If you're upgrading from 3.2 to 4.0, a clean reinstallation will most
> >
> > likely be required (or at least highly recommended). However, if you
> >
> > migrate using Qubes' backup and restore tools, your data and settings
> >
> > within each domU will be preserved.
> >
> >
> >
> > - --
> >
> > Andrew David Wong (Axon)
> >
> > Community Manager, Qubes OS
> >
> > https://www.qubes-os.org
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> >
> > Alexandre Brutelle
> >
> >
> > http://linfinigeste.com/
>
> Here you go, https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/releases/4.0/schedule/
> Keep an eye out for release timetable updates here too, as you can see it
> had revisions and updates in the past, some may come in the future too. You
> find this link for the time tables directly below the download section on
> the official website, for all Qubes releases both past, current and the
> future releases to come. But currently, these are the official estimated
> release days given out by the Qubes team.
>
> Also a warning, don't do what I did! Frankly it's a bit embarrassing,
> since it's pretty obvious, but really, do not backup-restore any templates
> from Qubes 3.2 to Qubes 4... This worked just fine from Qubes 3.2. to
> another Qubes 3.2., but it won't work very well from Qubes 3.2. to Qubes 4,
> because the Qubes tools installed inside the VM's are different in their
> code between versions, and therefore not compatible (guessing from
> experience and hardships, I did not read the code though). At the very
> least, it gave me a lot of trouble, and it's at least partly explaining why
> qvm-run and qvm-open-in-vm did not work (partly). Seemingly Fedora
> templates work flawlessly now, if one does not do this mistake, but the
> debian template is still troublesome for some people (note: some people,
> not everyone), even if you re-install it.
>
> But aside from things like that, and as long as you can fall back o

Re: [qubes-users] Propspect : When upgrading to the next stable version of Qubes 4.0XXX

2017-11-11 Thread Alexandre Brutelle
Thank you for your reply !

Do you think such upgrade to the next stable version will happen anytime
soon ?



On 12 November 2017 at 00:47, Andrew David Wong <a...@qubes-os.org> wrote:

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> On 2017-11-11 13:01, brutellealexan...@gmail.com wrote:
> > When there will be a stable supported version of Qubes 4., and I
> > upgrade, will I be able to keep all my set ups and docs on each on
> >  my VM's ?
> >
> > Or will I have to wipe it all in order to upgrade and install the
> > new version ?
> >
>
> If you're upgrading from 3.2 to 4.0, a clean reinstallation will most
> likely be required (or at least highly recommended). However, if you
> migrate using Qubes' backup and restore tools, your data and settings
> within each domU will be preserved.
>
> - --
> Andrew David Wong (Axon)
> Community Manager, Qubes OS
> https://www.qubes-os.org
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Re: [qubes-users] Recommendations for VPN on the debian8 template ?

2017-11-09 Thread Alexandre Brutelle
Hmm... I think I found out why. I must have had played with the wrong files
previously on the debian template, through hours of randomn tests, so I
must have change some essential settings. Though you might be right also.
The only way to find out would be for me to reinstall a new debian template.

 I decided to stick with Fedora to create this second proxy meanwhile.

Thank you for your help !

On 10 November 2017 at 01:32, Chris Laprise <tas...@posteo.net> wrote:

> On 11/09/2017 06:57 PM, brutellealexan...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> On Friday, 10 November 2017 00:39:32 UTC+1, Chris Laprise  wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/09/2017 05:51 PM,wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've successfully installed a VPN Tunnel as a proxy-VM (on a Fedora 23
>>>> template) in my set up.
>>>>
>>>> However I don't seem to able to reproduce the same template and make
>>>> another one using the Debian8 template. Is the process any different ? When
>>>> trying I get a TLS Error.
>>>>
>>>> Hope someone can help !
>>>>
>>> Setup is the same on the different templates (only variation is in Qubes
>>> R4.0 which isn't in the doc yet).
>>>
>>> How does the connection go when you start it manually from the terminal?
>>>
>>> I just get this message : SSL3_CLIENT_HELLO:no ciphers available + these
>> two error messages : TLS Error, incoming plain text read error, TLS
>> handshake failed.
>>
>> This is something I got several times before being actually able to set
>> up my first VPN, but I don't remember how I solved this...
>>
>
> Check that the configuration files in /rw/config/vpn are the same. Also,
> compare the version of openvpn in fedora-23 with the one in debian-8...
> IIRC they had an upgrade that introduced an incompatibility with older
> services. That could mean you need to get an updated config file from your
> VPN provider.
>
>
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