[qubes-users] Re: HCL: Supermicro AMD server: success!

2016-10-09 Thread dlmetcalf
On Sunday, 9 October 2016 19:03:49 UTC+11, dlme...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Tried this Bill?  https://www.coreboot.org/Board:supermicro/h8qgi
> 
> DM.

Oops, just noticed you're on H8DGI  :O|

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[qubes-users] Re: HCL: Supermicro AMD server: success!

2016-10-09 Thread dlmetcalf
Tried this Bill?  https://www.coreboot.org/Board:supermicro/h8qgi

DM.

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[qubes-users] Re: installing Signal on Qubes mini-HOWTO

2016-09-23 Thread dlmetcalf
On Friday, 23 September 2016 07:56:15 UTC+10, dlme...@gmail.com  wrote:
> On Friday, 23 September 2016 04:11:33 UTC+10, se...@redhat.com  wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 22, 2016 at 3:57:01 AM UTC-4, dlme...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
> > > On Monday, 15 August 2016 20:43:18 UTC+10, pixel fairy  wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, August 14, 2016 at 3:22:30 PM UTC-7, Alex wrote:
> > > > ...
> > > > > 1. Install the Chromium browser in your appvm template - skip if you 
> > > > > were already using it. Shut down the template VM.
> > > > 
> > > > I keep wondering how safe chromium browser is. do redhat or debian 
> > > > track updates in time with google-chrome?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Chromium in the supported Fedora template for Qubes (FC23) contains High 
> > > severity security bugs:
> > > 
> > > FC23 = 52.0.2743.116-10.fc23.
> > > FC24 = 53.0.2785.113-1.fc24.
> > > 
> > > See: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/chromium  (for builds)
> > > 
> > > Numerous security vulnerabilities, including High severity CVE's here:
> > > https://googlechromereleases.blogspot.com.au/2016/09/stable-channel-update-for-desktop_13.html
> > > 
> > > Newer RPMs available here, but haven't been tagged to either updates or 
> > > updates-testing for FC23:
> > > 
> > > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=802754
> > 
> > 
> > So what you're saying is we should move to Fedora 24.
> 
> Sure.  However, FC23 is still listed as a supported release: 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases#Current_Supported_Releases.  Maybe 
> only "Critical" security fixes would make it to FC23 though, not "High" 
> (https://www.chromium.org/developers/severity-guidelines), but people likely 
> assume otherwise.  Note also that Chromium is not listed as a Critical Path 
> package, unlike Firefox.


Qubes 3.1 doesn't have an fc24 template. 
Qubes 3.2 won't be released with fc23 because it's too late in testing, but 
will (does currently for the RC) have an fc24 template available.

It looks like chromium-53.0.2785.116-1.fc23 should now be in 'updates-testing' 
repo (since 2016-09-21 17:43:43Z), but it hasn't propagated far.

Out of 6 mirrors in Australia, only one here even had the previous 
53.0.2785.113-1.fc23.x86_64, in 'updates-testing', which is now ~8 days old.

YMMV, but looks like Fedora needs to drop some consistently slow mirrors: 
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mirrormanager/propgation

Also, if fc23 users want Chromium, it needs package testers. 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Updates_Testing.

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[qubes-users] Re: installing Signal on Qubes mini-HOWTO

2016-09-22 Thread dlmetcalf
On Friday, 23 September 2016 04:11:33 UTC+10, se...@redhat.com  wrote:
> On Thursday, September 22, 2016 at 3:57:01 AM UTC-4, dlme...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, 15 August 2016 20:43:18 UTC+10, pixel fairy  wrote:
> > > On Sunday, August 14, 2016 at 3:22:30 PM UTC-7, Alex wrote:
> > > ...
> > > > 1. Install the Chromium browser in your appvm template - skip if you 
> > > > were already using it. Shut down the template VM.
> > > 
> > > I keep wondering how safe chromium browser is. do redhat or debian track 
> > > updates in time with google-chrome?
> > 
> > 
> > Chromium in the supported Fedora template for Qubes (FC23) contains High 
> > severity security bugs:
> > 
> > FC23 = 52.0.2743.116-10.fc23.
> > FC24 = 53.0.2785.113-1.fc24.
> > 
> > See: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/chromium  (for builds)
> > 
> > Numerous security vulnerabilities, including High severity CVE's here:
> > https://googlechromereleases.blogspot.com.au/2016/09/stable-channel-update-for-desktop_13.html
> > 
> > Newer RPMs available here, but haven't been tagged to either updates or 
> > updates-testing for FC23:
> > 
> > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=802754
> 
> 
> So what you're saying is we should move to Fedora 24.

Sure.  However, FC23 is still listed as a supported release: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases#Current_Supported_Releases.  Maybe only 
"Critical" security fixes would make it to FC23 though, not "High" 
(https://www.chromium.org/developers/severity-guidelines), but people likely 
assume otherwise.  Note also that Chromium is not listed as a Critical Path 
package, unlike Firefox.

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[qubes-users] Re: installing Signal on Qubes mini-HOWTO

2016-09-22 Thread dlmetcalf
On Monday, 15 August 2016 20:43:18 UTC+10, pixel fairy  wrote:
> On Sunday, August 14, 2016 at 3:22:30 PM UTC-7, Alex wrote:
> ...
> > 1. Install the Chromium browser in your appvm template - skip if you were 
> > already using it. Shut down the template VM.
> 
> I keep wondering how safe chromium browser is. do redhat or debian track 
> updates in time with google-chrome?


Chromium in the supported Fedora template for Qubes (FC23) contains High 
severity security bugs:

FC23 = 52.0.2743.116-10.fc23.
FC24 = 53.0.2785.113-1.fc24.

See: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/chromium  (for builds)

Numerous security vulnerabilities, including High severity CVE's here:
https://googlechromereleases.blogspot.com.au/2016/09/stable-channel-update-for-desktop_13.html

Newer RPMs available here, but haven't been tagged to either updates or 
updates-testing for FC23:

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=802754

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[qubes-users] Re: adding gresecurity to Qubes

2016-06-14 Thread dlmetcalf
On Wednesday, 15 June 2016 04:40:03 UTC+10, Lorenzo Lamas  wrote:
> Imho it would still be a good idea because of the PaX protections on user 
> applications.
> For example it could prevent exploitation of your mail client. The infection 
> may not be able to survive AppVM reboot but it could still steal information. 
> You can of course limit the damage by compartmentalizing more granular, but 
> that doesn't prevent it in the first place and more AppVMs means more 
> resource usage.

That's how I looked at it too.  (Additionally, reboots don't protect against 
infections in /home, such as malicious browser extension, modified .bash_rc, 
etc.)

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