[qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 3.1 reaches EOL on 2017-03-29
On 03/07/2017 09:23 PM, Unman wrote: On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 11:05:59AM -0800, raahe...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 at 7:18:05 AM UTC-5, Sybil wrote: On 03/01/2017 10:01 AM, Andrew David Wong wrote: Qubes OS releases are normally supported for six months after each subsequent major or minor release (see [Supported Versions] and [Version Scheme]). In accordance with this policy, Qubes 3.1, which was released on 2016-03-09, is scheduled to reach end-of-life (EOL) on 2017-03-29 --- six months after Qubes 3.2 was released on 2016-09-29. We strongly urge all current Qubes 3.1 users to upgrade to Qubes 3.2 or newer before 2017-03-29. As always, newer releases are available on the [downloads] page. With Fedora 23 being EOL (2016-12-20) too, shouldn't there be an update by now anyway? (Or some document on how to upgrade the core parts to Fedora 24 or 25?) https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-23-end-of-life/ "After December 20th, all packages in the Fedora 23 repositories will no longer receive security, bugfix, or enhancement updates, and no new packages will be added to the Fedora 23 collection." Sybil yes there is one already. https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2016/11/15/fedora-24-template-available/ I guess you need to upgrade to qubes 3.2 first. I think the concern was more with "the core parts" in dom0 - EOL here isn't critical at all, as is explicitly covered in the docs: www.qubes-os.org/doc/supported-versions. I am already on the Fedora 24 templates (except for dom0, obviously). Thank, Unman. Indeed, my concern was regarding the "core parts" and even though it's not /that/ critical, I'm always a bit nervous about EOLs. This eased my mind a bit: "These components are security-critical, and we provide updates for all of them (when necessary), regardless of the support status of the base distribution. For this reason, we consider it safe to continue using a given base distribution in dom0 even after it has reached end-of-life." Sybil -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/o9r26b%241kh%241%40blaine.gmane.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS 3.1 reaches EOL on 2017-03-29
On 03/01/2017 10:01 AM, Andrew David Wong wrote: Qubes OS releases are normally supported for six months after each subsequent major or minor release (see [Supported Versions] and [Version Scheme]). In accordance with this policy, Qubes 3.1, which was released on 2016-03-09, is scheduled to reach end-of-life (EOL) on 2017-03-29 --- six months after Qubes 3.2 was released on 2016-09-29. We strongly urge all current Qubes 3.1 users to upgrade to Qubes 3.2 or newer before 2017-03-29. As always, newer releases are available on the [downloads] page. With Fedora 23 being EOL (2016-12-20) too, shouldn't there be an update by now anyway? (Or some document on how to upgrade the core parts to Fedora 24 or 25?) https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-23-end-of-life/ "After December 20th, all packages in the Fedora 23 repositories will no longer receive security, bugfix, or enhancement updates, and no new packages will be added to the Fedora 23 collection." Sybil -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/acab6726-a199-570c-1538-12789d31fbd5%40intodark.space. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Getting new hardware, GPU question
Hello, I'm considering getting a new desktop PC. It'll be more or less based on the one mentioned in the "cheap" barebone. My current desktop has only 8GB and doesn't support any more even though the CPU is up to most tasks (i7-2600). It has a Nvidia GTX 750Ti and handles Qubes okay by default (on its own SSD) although 8GB is very tight. I also have another SSD with Win 7 on it for games only. While this setup works, 8Gb isn't enough for what I'd like to do. So now I'm considering a replacement. On 01/29/2017 04:32 PM, Grzegorz Chodzicki wrote: [snip] * Change the X99 motherboard for a Z170 one. X99 motherboards are more expensive than Z170 ones and there is fewer of them on the market. * Use a quad-core or dual-core Skylake. Performance will be worse but you can buy a mid-range Skylake for a third of the 6800 price * Drop the GPU. All Skylake processors have integrated Intel GPUs so a dedicated card is not necessary. * Drop the M.2 SSD and use a SATA one. M.2 SSD are still relatively expensive so that's another corner to cut * Buy 16GB of RAM instead of 32GB. This one I don't really recommend since it will yield the smallest savings but for completeness sake I include it. [snip] My desired specs would be: - Z170 motherboard with support for up to 64GB RAM (future proofing) - i7-6700 or maybe even i7-7700 (is it supported yet?) - Intel HD graphic from CPU - M.2 SSD for Qubes + SATA SSD for (HVM) Windows (games only) - 32GB of RAM - A/dual GPU, but which? AMD seems most likely (see below) I'd like to be able to play some games on it, so I'll need a GPU and thus the choice ends up between Nvidia or AMD. My thinking is that if the Intel HD graphics is used by Qubes on one screen, the additional GPU could be dedicated to a HVM and perhaps even play games on it on another screen (in the future, for now rebooting suffices). I've been digging through the posts and seen lots of issues getting NVidia to work with Qubes, although Qubes didn't need any additional configuring for my current NVidia card. But since I have only one GPU I can not test HVM graphics separation. I haven't found any posts about AMD GPUs, however, I did see on the Xen website that secondary ATI/AMD GPU passthrough is possible, depending the hardware. (Source: https://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Secondary_GPU_Passthrough ) I know that page does say Nvidia will only work with certain patches and certain Windows versions, so that route is turning into a no-go. Ideally I'd be able to use Qubes and be able to play Windows based games without having to resort to dual boot. (Kind of like in the Ubisoft demo of 2011: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gtmwnx-k2qg ) Is this possible? Can it be done with Qubes or do I need to "build" my own Qubes variation on Xen? If this isn't possible, I probably end up getting a PC for the games albeit lower specs and a separate laptop for Qubes. Any thoughts or recommendations are highly appreciated, Sybil -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/o6nalm%24m1r%241%40blaine.gmane.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
