[qubes-users] Re: Wine/PlayOnLinux Best Practices

[bassmeister3000]

> I will probably eventually create a Windows HVM and just run necessary stuff 
> in there.  I didn't want to run an entire instance of Windows just to run the 
> Kindle app.

There's a good chance you don't need to just for Kindle.  I've run many 
applications in bare Wine, until I found good replacements for them.  
 
> 
> I don't know how people can think POL (and presumably Wine) is a viable 
> option.

As I mentioned above, they aren't actually 1:1 in terms of working or not 
working.  Wine works, the caveat is that you have to make it work with your 
app, which can be a real PITA.

> 
> What this has (re)taught me is the evils of DRM.  There are a lot of books 
> that are Kindle only. 

I believe for a while I was able to use Chrome and the Kindle store to read 
kindle books?  Perhaps that's an option.

As for DRM, well that's why I still buy physical books.  The ones who really 
suffer are the authors, since DRM forces so many people who would have paid for 
the content to find an alternative that works.

I used to use a lot of commercial software on Windows, but after two years the 
validation servers would cease to exist and my apps went *p00f*.  Thousands of 
dollars of unusable software. I've since happily spent money for apps and media 
that don't require DRM.  I won't buy anything with DRM.  Vote with your wallet. 

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[qubes-users] Re: Wine/PlayOnLinux Best Practices

[bassmeister3000]

> I was rather shocked to see that PlayOnLinux hogs 800 MB on my hard drive.  I 
> guess there's support in there for just about every freaking service that any 
> Windows application might want.  I had just assumed that that stuff would be 
> installed on an as-needed basis (Maybe standalone Wine does this?).
> 

It's been a while since I used wine (I prefer just using an HVM for this) and 
PlayOnLinux, but here's the gist:

wine and wine dependencies are relatively light, but will create a "windows" 
simulated directory under ~/.wine which holds all the actual app executables.  

Wine would go in TemplateVM and run in an AppVM.  It WILL eat up space in the 
AppVM.  

PlayOnLinux creates (Last time I used it) MULTIPLE windows directories (one for 
each app?) on the AppVM, which eats a ton of space. You probably only need 
PlayOnLinux if you are actually running a DirectX game etc. PlayOnLinux 
includes EVERY addon to Wine (Wine->OSS->PulseAudio) with patches to make 
specific applications work. 

If you can get it running in just Wine, you can select which extensions get 
installed.

As for security, imagine my surprise when my Linux desktop started popping up 
malware ads, which ran quite happily in Wine.  

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