Re: [qubes-users] Re: Installer Bug - has not been fixed since I reported it in Qubes 2.0 installer.
On 08/22/2017 08:15 AM, jespernexojorgen...@gmail.com wrote: I guess the next step would be to see if VMWare will work with the graphical installer :) Qubes-OS is a HVM visualization system that works directly with the hardware, and its use under another virtualization system is likely to have many problems. The security that it provides depends on this being the right hardware, and the virtualized hardware just isn't the same. In short, don't test is under VirtualBox/VMWare and expect to see what it will be like, because that is simply not a valid way to test it. There used to be a Live DVD you could boot to test it, but that DVD is ancient at this point. The better way to test (imho) is to instead install it onto a fast bootable USB drive and then use grub or your BIOS boot sequence to boot from that drive. Then Qubes will be running natively on your real hardware, and the only difference is that the locally installed system will likely run much faster, since the external USB IO is likely much slower than your actual system drive. best of luck, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/92a947a4-0109-8f8e-88c7-b0e9ff504c9d%40jhuapl.edu. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Installer Bug - has not been fixed since I reported it in Qubes 2.0 installer.
On 08/22/2017 02:15 PM, jespernexojorgen...@gmail.com wrote: > I think that most people would test Qubes OS (or any other new OS) in > a VM before wiping a physical machine - and a lot of people probably > dont even own spare physical machines, these days...so making it work > within another hypervisor would make good sense. The docs does say > that it is unsupported, but usually that doesnt mean "completely > unusable" ;) It makes no sense in trying to make Xen work as a vm guest; Xen people themselves said that they are not going to support that (sorry but I don't have a link to that discussion at hand), and Qubes recently (couple years at least) added the ability to be tested as a live distro without touching the working OS installed. Even if you manage to start anaconda/X, you'll probably encounter many problems with Xen. And yes, usually when you see "unsupported" it means "barely exists", and it not only applies to Qubes but a lot of other things too - not just software! > Perhaps just a meaningful error message would help people figure out > why the installer seems to crash and/or behave like some buggy app. A > project manager that disguises bugs like this as a low-prio feature > req..well..hmm.. ;) Since it's actually not a bug in qubes the ticket could be just closed, the text setup disabled, and that would be all. But not to lose the detailed info about the issue, I think a nice thing to do to the users that had experienced the problem would be reopening the issue as a feature request. But I'm usually told that I'm too nice of a project manager towards user requests. Have a nice test (please consider the live cd / usb instead of virtual machines!) -- Alex -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/b5bafb07-0304-50d1-b04e-e64b142668de%40gmx.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Installer Bug - has not been fixed since I reported it in Qubes 2.0 installer.
Thanks for a quick reply Alex :-) I think that most people would test Qubes OS (or any other new OS) in a VM before wiping a physical machine - and a lot of people probably dont even own spare physical machines, these days...so making it work within another hypervisor would make good sense. The docs does say that it is unsupported, but usually that doesnt mean "completely unusable" ;) Perhaps just a meaningful error message would help people figure out why the installer seems to crash and/or behave like some buggy app. A project manager that disguises bugs like this as a low-prio feature req..well..hmm.. ;) I guess the next step would be to see if VMWare will work with the graphical installer :) Thanks for the explanation! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/289a3614-d736-422b-8897-158c7d68ea47%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Installer Bug - has not been fixed since I reported it in Qubes 2.0 installer.
On 08/22/2017 01:46 PM, jespernexojorgen...@gmail.com wrote: > This it stilla an issue. Ive created a VM in Virtualbox - the graphical > installer does not show up, and the text based installer fails. This has been > a serious problem since 3.1. > > I realise this is described in > https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2113 - but this is not a > solution - its a bad workaround. > > When will anyone take this problem seriously? Since it's not a problem in Qubes itself, but in anaconda (please see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1020345 as linked by https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/1161) and since it has been closed as wontfix with the dry statement "LUKS configuration is not available in text mode", I see it highly unlikely that it will be ever fixed. The bug in Qubes tracker may itself be considered closed once the text mode setup will be disabled and a feature request is opened for a text mode setup, which will get a very low priority and hang on indefinitely because of the impossibility of setting up LUKS in text mode. Some project managers may prefer having a pending feature request than having a pending bug. As a side remark, please note that installing qubes in a VM is obviously and clearly stated as unsupported and most likely will produce bug chains like the one you are encountering, which should originate with the inability to load the "vboxvideo" X driver (thus the text mode install attempt, that fails on LUKS). Please test Qubes on a spare physical PC: it also makes very little sense to try to use it as a production OS in a virtualized environment. If you need a virtualization host OS you can try the free ESXi, Proxmox or other alternatives to those. -- Alex -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/935c3fef-bb38-e8e0-0ce8-ba7fc0a6aad0%40gmx.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[qubes-users] Re: Installer Bug - has not been fixed since I reported it in Qubes 2.0 installer.
On Friday, June 24, 2016 at 12:11:21 PM UTC+2, Drew White wrote: > Text based install. > This issue has not been fixed since I reported it in Qubes 2.0 installer. > > > > > INSTALLATION DESTINATION > > > (LVM, LVM Thin Partitioning) > ERROR AS FOLLOWS.. > > storage configuration failed: autopart failed: > > Encryption requested for LUKS device sda2 but no encryption key specified for > this device. > > > > > > > (Standard, Btrfs Partitioning) > > > > storage configuration failed: autopart failed: > > Encryption requested for LUKS device sda2 but no encryption key specified for > this device. > Encryption requested for LUKS device sda3 but no encryption key specified for > this device. > > Hi all. This it stilla an issue. Ive created a VM in Virtualbox - the graphical installer does not show up, and the text based installer fails. This has been a serious problem since 3.1. I realise this is described in https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2113 - but this is not a solution - its a bad workaround. When will anyone take this problem seriously? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/63220b93-b7ee-415d-864a-cf7e42817829%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Installer Bug - has not been fixed since I reported it in Qubes 2.0 installer.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 04:03:15AM -0700, Drew White wrote: > Text based install > > In the installer, when I don't get the LUKS bug, and it doesn't work right, > I get the following error > > It creates "luks" on /dev/sda2, even though I have not selected LUKS, nor > set a password for it. > then it comes up with... > -- > (anaconda:957): Gdk-ERROR **: error: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set in the > environment. > > > Pane is dead > -- > > There is no graphical interface, it's text based... I think the XDG_RUNTIME_DIR message is unrelated, I've seen this also on successful installation. Actual error message is probably in log file in /tmp (?). Anyway, it is probably still about passphrase not set. And it isn't set, because anaconda in text mode does not have support for it. Which is described here: https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/1161 - -- Best Regards, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki Invisible Things Lab A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJXcYbfAAoJENuP0xzK19csbJ8H/jviai7jiQoQuqcXbDLl585r 1Mr4Q1FyU6iQVDfupCLGiaJ5M+jc2GJ8We/1hhCihdk+PG9VsbOcFkkxC4nJzLcV y0pObKBBdktesTn4zxLyd8GG9+JRHSK48tl3QP485sJ2yk2DSXOBOf+GdYiQeg2z U7V26rBXa4ci8/s7XHeke+vOZYfD4CgDa120stIOpON0eMTkvX7JIUflzc+v2qSF /EINN3VgQVSirR9xw3x/JSa8PTj4OPsRL/Huq84aVUL0nZwLuTiQJcc2Ec+qvzVh RP2bcbc4CrYsq6zHmLnbl+Bf7eFsBhWoubzkHNADRpIHk+1cNW3jG9tUl14ymtk= =pHkY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20160627200446.GM1323%40mail-itl. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Installer Bug - has not been fixed since I reported it in Qubes 2.0 installer.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2016-06-27 04:03, Drew White wrote: > Text based install > > In the installer, when I don't get the LUKS bug, and it doesn't > work right, I get the following error > > It creates "luks" on /dev/sda2, even though I have not selected > LUKS, nor set a password for it. then it comes up with... > -- (anaconda:957): Gdk-ERROR **: error: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR > not set in the environment. > > > Pane is dead -- > > There is no graphical interface, it's text based... > Thanks. Tracking here: https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/1623 - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJXcYCNAAoJENtN07w5UDAwi4gQAJBc8st6HVpmZDAaU2J9AXK5 A0uUmtxv412fGQMHjAM5CAm0kayEM3kDc0YFkw+A+jhDAc9dzCrShq28KVGdHdBV qyjniQOUPzWlXSmFEhNqAjPupLm23t4uvlmSORRrZyVO8L8umpL59OHDNqU+jXLq LAJDsozpRyL2RlXlbMCSHdKwilUi/ZSHcr5vNGeDRetWMWO5nD/oyBDk5wHHrkjh 3kOgL1Kqz+eM6UGUcnoGz1V+wZ43qiycSkbDQ8YnxsGRc7qhIFR4rs8WF2fCRvb6 4r+QlraAkJ/BIvCsAEUiezi0u7WLE8NlYEDZaZmD91VMUwbBiy271C/AULPIqka1 B3jPnMX2VWKqh9JvP2kQC/XPUrS65LgxnRvrDF0Hnq8tCkcE6YXrtwYaOCzcLPjN eFg7ZHlHOm0uqPh8DOAIOHKZ+o5IaEIGVviJmPmKyCHPrUEC1UHox+d47atisdNt gTVdWeQ0L+sBo7rg9QbrlEW84Yb+71zpJKM1ReVWEscceTahF0GGG5hCJ0E1wB/3 zICBCFVjSiUTTGZs9IAOrembB0TsoNCmPW1W5zqguOWFD6V8tg/LAE+sQiS4/keK pb/vrXzaUrla0lCY7/64XK+5nv4E+5oZpXxLUoUUR9U+bxYL0PyQ35GhR6SupyKN OTPEJoARk6nI9hsU4Vm5 =8moY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/c4585b35-b032-30af-c956-65d6a6e36b6f%40qubes-os.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
