Re: [qubes-users] Re: pen testing / port forwarding guide?

2020-07-20 Thread unman
On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 10:52:37AM -0700, ludwig jaffe wrote:
> Feature Request:
> 
> Kali template VM with qubes-os secialities like cut installed.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Ludwig
> 
> On Tuesday, July 14, 2020 at 3:54:43 PM UTC, jm wrote:
> >
> > hi, 
> >
> > Has anyone written a guide to setting up a Kali vm in Qubes for 
> > pen testing? 
> >
> > I'm studying for the OSCP, and the Qubes firewall port forwarding 
> > guide suggests a fragile and finicky setup that I'm reluctant to 
> > rely on. Punching holes from sys-net to sys-firewall to vpn-vm to 
> > an an appvm just to run `nc -nlvp ` seems... like a kludge, at 
> > best. 
> >
> > Issue #4028 tracks this problem. 
> >
> > The alternatives seem to be 1) create a HVM with direct access 
> > to hardware--no sys-net or firewall-vm--or 2) purchase a 
> > dedicated laptop for this use case. 
> >
> > Any suggestions? 
> >
> > thanks, 
> >
> > jmp 
> >


The convention here is not to top-post.
Please scroll to the bottom of the message before you start typing. Or
reply inline.
It only takes you seconds, makes it much easier to follow threads, and
cumulatively saves your fellow users hours.

You can already build a kali template with the qubes-builder - or I
provide a pre-built one if you are uncertain about building your own

unman

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[qubes-users] Re: pen testing / port forwarding guide?

2020-07-19 Thread ludwig jaffe
Feature Request:

Kali template VM with qubes-os secialities like cut installed.

Cheers,

Ludwig

On Tuesday, July 14, 2020 at 3:54:43 PM UTC, jm wrote:
>
> hi, 
>
> Has anyone written a guide to setting up a Kali vm in Qubes for 
> pen testing? 
>
> I'm studying for the OSCP, and the Qubes firewall port forwarding 
> guide suggests a fragile and finicky setup that I'm reluctant to 
> rely on. Punching holes from sys-net to sys-firewall to vpn-vm to 
> an an appvm just to run `nc -nlvp ` seems... like a kludge, at 
> best. 
>
> Issue #4028 tracks this problem. 
>
> The alternatives seem to be 1) create a HVM with direct access 
> to hardware--no sys-net or firewall-vm--or 2) purchase a 
> dedicated laptop for this use case. 
>
> Any suggestions? 
>
> thanks, 
>
> jmp 
>
> -- 
> J.M. Porup 
> www.JMPorup.com 
>
>

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[qubes-users] Re: pen testing / port forwarding guide?

2020-07-14 Thread liked2

On 2020-07-14 16:54, 'J.M. Porup' via qubes-users wrote:

hi,

Has anyone written a guide to setting up a Kali vm in Qubes for
pen testing?

I'm studying for the OSCP, and the Qubes firewall port forwarding
guide suggests a fragile and finicky setup that I'm reluctant to
rely on. Punching holes from sys-net to sys-firewall to vpn-vm to
an an appvm just to run `nc -nlvp ` seems... like a kludge, at
best.

Issue #4028 tracks this problem.

The alternatives seem to be 1) create a HVM with direct access
to hardware--no sys-net or firewall-vm--or 2) purchase a
dedicated laptop for this use case.

Any suggestions?

thanks,

jmp



I've been using this script for a long time for port forwarding:
https://gist.github.com/Joeviocoe/6c4dc0c283f6d6c5b1a3f5af8793292b

This one might also be useful:
https://gist.github.com/Joeviocoe/90ec9fd9a0769b4671a8ae9c87584187

Best. P.

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[qubes-users] Re: pen testing / port forwarding guide?

2020-07-14 Thread max via qubes-users
tirsdag den 14. juli 2020 kl. 17.54.43 UTC+2 skrev jm:
>
> hi, 
>
> Has anyone written a guide to setting up a Kali vm in Qubes for 
> pen testing? 
>

I have Kali rolling installed and happy using it for CTF gaming and small 
stuff. I love Qubes and Kali together, but for reverse shell, etc. Andrew 
Douma wrote en evaluation some time ago, and recommended not using Qubes 
for pentesting.

https://medium.com/@securitystreak/living-with-qubes-os-r3-2-rc3-for-a-week-1a37e04c799e
https://medium.com/@securitystreak/buying-a-professional-penetration-testing-laptop-for-2017-6cd21e65dc2
https://medium.com/hackernoon/the-2017-pentester-guide-to-windows-10-privacy-security-cf734c510b8d
 

> I'm studying for the OSCP, and the Qubes firewall port forwarding 
> guide suggests a fragile and finicky setup that I'm reluctant to 
> rely on. Punching holes from sys-net to sys-firewall to vpn-vm to 
> an an appvm just to run `nc -nlvp ` seems... like a kludge, at 
> best. 
>
> Issue #4028 tracks this problem. 
>
> The alternatives seem to be 1) create a HVM with direct access 
> to hardware--no sys-net or firewall-vm--or 2) purchase a 
> dedicated laptop for this use case. 
>

Both suggestions are good, I believe.

Sincerely
Max

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