Re: [qubes-users] Looking to change value of dom0_mem=max, tried finding xen-cmdline but no luck

2019-11-22 Thread Sphere
@awokd: What on earth, so I was almost there already
I was looking around grub and grub2 folders in hopes of finding some sort 
of startup script related to it. Now I feel so dumb hahahahahaha
Many Thanks!

@Claudia: Thanks for the heads' up. I have set the max memory through 
xen.cfg for my situation.
To be honest, I couldn't comprehend completely the memory allocation in 
Xen/Qubes article but if I understand it right, what it heavily implies is 
that dom0 dynamically allocates memory from itself to AppVMs when it sees 
that there is a need for it. I did observe this behavior to some extent but 
unfortunately, it doesn't seem to react when an AppVM is in a very 
near-frozen state due to lack of RAM to use. I have observed this for 
almost over 5 times already and it sucked.

Also, I could observe some minor lag hiccups whenever the browser is 
starting to completely exhaust the ram available to the AppVM, and that is 
something I would like to try to avoid.

On Friday, November 22, 2019 at 3:27:07 AM UTC+8, awokd wrote:
>
> Sphere: 
>
> > However, a ram stick just died on me this week and I badly need all the 
> RAM 
> > that I could get. Even right now, my dom0 is actively using just about 
> 940 
> > MB worth of RAM... which is why I think it would be best if I could 
> > permanently allocate 2048M to dom0 instead of 4096M for my case. 
>
> /boot/efi/EFI/qubes/xen.cfg 
>
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Re: [qubes-users] Looking to change value of dom0_mem=max, tried finding xen-cmdline but no luck

2019-11-22 Thread Claudia

Sphere:


However, a ram stick just died on me this week and I badly need all the RAM
that I could get. Even right now, my dom0 is actively using just about 940
MB worth of RAM... which is why I think it would be best if I could
permanently allocate 2048M to dom0 instead of 4096M for my case.

...Not unless there are big security-related reasons as to why 4096M has
been the default on dom0.



I think you're looking for /boot/efi/EFI/qubes/xen.cfg line 
"options=..." (UEFI) or /etc/default/grub line "GRUB_CMDLINE_XEN=..." 
(legacy, or UEFI+grub).


I have no idea if it's effective, advisable, or safe; I'm just 
explaining how to do it if you want to.


https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_Project_Best_Practices#Xen_Project_dom0_dedicated_memory_and_preventing_dom0_memory_ballooning

https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_Project_Best_Practices#Why_should_I_dedicate_fixed_amount_of_memory_for_Xen_Project_dom0.3F


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Re: [qubes-users] Looking to change value of dom0_mem=max, tried finding xen-cmdline but no luck

2019-11-22 Thread Claudia

Sphere:

https://discussions.citrix.com/topic/354913-error-increasing-dom0-memory-in-61/

So I am looking to reduce the max set on dom0_mem because a considerable
amount of ram is being wasted (roughly 1500 MB) and I want to use it on my
RAM heavy appvms instead

I've been searching all over the place for xen configuration stuff but I
haven't gotten much luck finding anything that has the parameters that
define the values in "xen_commandline" that is shown whenever one types xl
info

I've tried doing things like "xl mem-set Domain-0 2048M" but it reverts
back as soon as I start a new app vm...

Anybody know the proper way to do this?



I think you're looking for /boot/efi/EFI/qubes/xen.cfg

I'm not sure if you can change memory limits on dom0 at runtime (i.e. 
using xl). Even so, it's not recommended, because the kernel makes 
certain decisions based on the amount of memory it sees at boot, such as 
size of various memory structures, which are not updated when the amount 
of ram changes later. So you could end up with a non-optimal 
configuration. It's best to set initial and max memory in xen.cfg.


However I encourage you to read about memory allocation in Xen/Qubes, as 
Andrew mentioned, before making any changes, as they might not be 
necessary at all.


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Re: [qubes-users] Looking to change value of dom0_mem=max, tried finding xen-cmdline but no luck

2019-11-21 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
Sphere:

> However, a ram stick just died on me this week and I badly need all the RAM 
> that I could get. Even right now, my dom0 is actively using just about 940 
> MB worth of RAM... which is why I think it would be best if I could 
> permanently allocate 2048M to dom0 instead of 4096M for my case.

/boot/efi/EFI/qubes/xen.cfg

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Re: [qubes-users] Looking to change value of dom0_mem=max, tried finding xen-cmdline but no luck

2019-11-20 Thread Sphere
Well, I do have a problem with AppVMs completely hanging out on me on 
situations where firefox demands a large amount of ram and these are such 
cases:
1. Running a resource-intensive web application i.e. node.js web editors 
like Wix and Weebly
2. Downloading large files from mega.nz (I think the magic here involves 
loading the file into the RAM after it has been completely downloaded by 
the browser which is why when the browser prompts saving the file, the 
process is almost instantaneous... unless you don't have enough RAM to 
accommodate the demand.
3. Plenty of media-playing tabs open in Firefox or Chrome

There may be other cases that I have forgotten but on all cases where an 
AppVM froze on me, the total RAM eaten by dom0 hardly ever shrunk for it to 
be allocated to the AppVM, which should be expected given the existence of 
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/qmemman/

I was able to get myself a workaround for the problem before, and that is 
making more swap, ideally within the 8GB-10GB range.

However, a ram stick just died on me this week and I badly need all the RAM 
that I could get. Even right now, my dom0 is actively using just about 940 
MB worth of RAM... which is why I think it would be best if I could 
permanently allocate 2048M to dom0 instead of 4096M for my case.

...Not unless there are big security-related reasons as to why 4096M has 
been the default on dom0.

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Re: [qubes-users] Looking to change value of dom0_mem=max, tried finding xen-cmdline but no luck

2019-11-19 Thread Andrew David Wong
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On 2019-11-18 9:41 PM, Sphere wrote:
> https://discussions.citrix.com/topic/354913-error-increasing-dom0-memory-in-61/
>
>  So I am looking to reduce the max set on dom0_mem because a
> considerable amount of ram is being wasted (roughly 1500 MB) and I
> want to use it on my RAM heavy appvms instead
> 
> I've been searching all over the place for xen configuration stuff
> but I haven't gotten much luck finding anything that has the
> parameters that define the values in "xen_commandline" that is
> shown whenever one types xl info
> 
> I've tried doing things like "xl mem-set Domain-0 2048M" but it
> reverts back as soon as I start a new app vm...
> 
> Anybody know the proper way to do this?
> 

Are you sure that there's actually a problem that needs to be solved
here? A large amount of memory allocated to dom0 does not necessarily
indicate a problem: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/qmemman/

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[qubes-users] Looking to change value of dom0_mem=max, tried finding xen-cmdline but no luck

2019-11-18 Thread Sphere
https://discussions.citrix.com/topic/354913-error-increasing-dom0-memory-in-61/

So I am looking to reduce the max set on dom0_mem because a considerable 
amount of ram is being wasted (roughly 1500 MB) and I want to use it on my 
RAM heavy appvms instead

I've been searching all over the place for xen configuration stuff but I 
haven't gotten much luck finding anything that has the parameters that 
define the values in "xen_commandline" that is shown whenever one types xl 
info

I've tried doing things like "xl mem-set Domain-0 2048M" but it reverts 
back as soon as I start a new app vm...

Anybody know the proper way to do this?

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