Re: [qubes-users] Missing config files after Backup / Restore

2016-08-17 Thread 3n7r0py1
> So I took kwinrulesrc from the old system and copied it right into the new 
> system manually with no issues. No idea why restoring dom0 wasn't able to do 
> so. Now I gotta wade through all the other config files... Hopefully, not 
> missing anything else.

Mystery is partially solved. Upon reboot, the entries in the good kwinrulesrc 
file were mostly cleared and replaced with references. Window Rules must use 
some type of unique identifiers that aren't carried over... Maybe an 
export/import would work. The important thing is that Qubes Restore doesn't 
appear to have an issue.

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Re: [qubes-users] Missing config files after Backup / Restore

2016-08-17 Thread 3n7r0py1
On Thursday, August 18, 2016 at 12:41:16 AM UTC, Chris Laprise wrote:
> On 08/17/2016 06:41 PM, entr0py wrote:
> >> On 08/17/2016 03:20 PM, entr0py wrote:
> >>> Just migrated my Qubes 3.1 system to new hardware and it went 
> >>> surprisingly smoothly :)
> >>>
> >>> I noticed however that my KDE Window Rules did not get backed up / 
> >>> restored (not sure which).
> >>>
> >>> It's kind of irrelevant at this point since we're moving away from KDE 
> >>> but I'd still like to know why that happened and if there are other 
> >>> config files that I need to copy over manually.
> >>>
> >>> Most of the files in ~/.kde/share/config/ have permissions user:user 600 
> >>> so it shouldn't be a problem to back up. Is a KDE lock on those files 
> >>> preventing them from being overwritten on the restore? Any other files I 
> >>> should bring back manually? (Just noticed some keybindings not working...)
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.
> >> If the KDE version stayed the same (4.x) then I'd expect the dom0
> >> restore to include window rules and keybindings.
> >>
> >> Did you restart the system after the restore?
> >>
> >> Chris
> > Yes, more details:
> >
> > 1. Backed up the entire system (all up-to-date): dom0, all templates, all 
> > vms;
> > 2. Installed fresh Qubes 3.1 with no pre-configuration (seems fedora-23 was 
> > installed anyway)
> > 3. Did an incremental restore as follows:
> > a. restored dom0 - noticed that the following did not restore: desktop 
> > background, sound prefs,
> >application menu settings (application menu entries were correct)
> > b. reboot
> > c. restored service templates & service vms
> > d. updated dom0 - noticed window rules were not restored
> > e. reboot
> > f. restored dom0 AGAIN - thinking that dom0 update might have some 
> > effect
> >window rules did not restore BUT desktop background did.
> > g. restored all other templates & vms
> > h. noticed that keybindings did not restore
> >
> > I think all of these KDE settings are stored in ~/.kde/share/config/. 
> > Specifically, the window rules are located in kwinrulesrc. I guess I could 
> > reconnect backup drive and go find out if files were backed up to begin 
> > with. My hunch is that the problem is on the restore end. How can I tell if 
> > files are locked? And if locked can Qubes restore overwrite them?
> >
> 
> Doesn't dom0 restore move the current home dir into a subdir, then write 
> the restored files to the correct locations?
> 
> The only way I can think of that failing is if the initial move was 
> piecemeal and didn't catch everything.
> 
> Another explanation for the problem is that KDE might store some 
> settings elsewhere, such as /etc or /usr/share.
> 
> FWIW, although I prefer using KDE I have never relied on a restore 
> process to get my desktop settings back. I think its better to have a 
> written checklist of customizations that need to be done after an 
> installation.
> 
> Chris

Yes, that's the approach I usually take when performing upgrades. Thought I 
would be lazy this time since everything was remaining constant. Plus, I was 
anticipating having to do it all over again for 3.2... :)

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Re: [qubes-users] Missing config files after Backup / Restore

2016-08-17 Thread Chris Laprise

On 08/17/2016 06:41 PM, entr0py wrote:

On 08/17/2016 03:20 PM, entr0py wrote:

Just migrated my Qubes 3.1 system to new hardware and it went surprisingly 
smoothly :)

I noticed however that my KDE Window Rules did not get backed up / restored 
(not sure which).

It's kind of irrelevant at this point since we're moving away from KDE but I'd 
still like to know why that happened and if there are other config files that I 
need to copy over manually.

Most of the files in ~/.kde/share/config/ have permissions user:user 600 so it 
shouldn't be a problem to back up. Is a KDE lock on those files preventing them 
from being overwritten on the restore? Any other files I should bring back 
manually? (Just noticed some keybindings not working...)

Thanks.

If the KDE version stayed the same (4.x) then I'd expect the dom0
restore to include window rules and keybindings.

Did you restart the system after the restore?

Chris

Yes, more details:

1. Backed up the entire system (all up-to-date): dom0, all templates, all vms;
2. Installed fresh Qubes 3.1 with no pre-configuration (seems fedora-23 was 
installed anyway)
3. Did an incremental restore as follows:
a. restored dom0 - noticed that the following did not restore: desktop 
background, sound prefs,
   application menu settings (application menu entries were correct)
b. reboot
c. restored service templates & service vms
d. updated dom0 - noticed window rules were not restored
e. reboot
f. restored dom0 AGAIN - thinking that dom0 update might have some effect
   window rules did not restore BUT desktop background did.
g. restored all other templates & vms
h. noticed that keybindings did not restore

I think all of these KDE settings are stored in ~/.kde/share/config/. 
Specifically, the window rules are located in kwinrulesrc. I guess I could 
reconnect backup drive and go find out if files were backed up to begin with. 
My hunch is that the problem is on the restore end. How can I tell if files are 
locked? And if locked can Qubes restore overwrite them?



Doesn't dom0 restore move the current home dir into a subdir, then write 
the restored files to the correct locations?


The only way I can think of that failing is if the initial move was 
piecemeal and didn't catch everything.


Another explanation for the problem is that KDE might store some 
settings elsewhere, such as /etc or /usr/share.


FWIW, although I prefer using KDE I have never relied on a restore 
process to get my desktop settings back. I think its better to have a 
written checklist of customizations that need to be done after an 
installation.


Chris

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Re: [qubes-users] Missing config files after Backup / Restore

2016-08-17 Thread 3n7r0py1
On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 10:42:29 PM UTC, entr0py wrote:
> > On 08/17/2016 03:20 PM, entr0py wrote:
> >> Just migrated my Qubes 3.1 system to new hardware and it went surprisingly 
> >> smoothly :)
> >>
> >> I noticed however that my KDE Window Rules did not get backed up / 
> >> restored (not sure which).
> >>
> >> It's kind of irrelevant at this point since we're moving away from KDE but 
> >> I'd still like to know why that happened and if there are other config 
> >> files that I need to copy over manually.
> >>
> >> Most of the files in ~/.kde/share/config/ have permissions user:user 600 
> >> so it shouldn't be a problem to back up. Is a KDE lock on those files 
> >> preventing them from being overwritten on the restore? Any other files I 
> >> should bring back manually? (Just noticed some keybindings not working...)
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> > 
> > If the KDE version stayed the same (4.x) then I'd expect the dom0
> > restore to include window rules and keybindings.
> > 
> > Did you restart the system after the restore?
> > 
> > Chris 
> 
> Yes, more details:
> 
> 1. Backed up the entire system (all up-to-date): dom0, all templates, all vms;
> 2. Installed fresh Qubes 3.1 with no pre-configuration (seems fedora-23 was 
> installed anyway)
> 3. Did an incremental restore as follows:
>a. restored dom0 - noticed that the following did not restore: desktop 
> background, sound prefs, 
>   application menu settings (application menu entries were correct)
>b. reboot
>c. restored service templates & service vms
>d. updated dom0 - noticed window rules were not restored
>e. reboot
>f. restored dom0 AGAIN - thinking that dom0 update might have some effect
>   window rules did not restore BUT desktop background did.
>g. restored all other templates & vms
>h. noticed that keybindings did not restore
> 
> I think all of these KDE settings are stored in ~/.kde/share/config/. 
> Specifically, the window rules are located in kwinrulesrc. I guess I could 
> reconnect backup drive and go find out if files were backed up to begin with. 
> My hunch is that the problem is on the restore end. How can I tell if files 
> are locked? And if locked can Qubes restore overwrite them?
> 

So I took kwinrulesrc from the old system and copied it right into the new 
system manually with no issues. No idea why restoring dom0 wasn't able to do 
so. Now I gotta wade through all the other config files... Hopefully, not 
missing anything else.

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Re: [qubes-users] Missing config files after Backup / Restore

2016-08-17 Thread entr0py
> On 08/17/2016 03:20 PM, entr0py wrote:
>> Just migrated my Qubes 3.1 system to new hardware and it went surprisingly 
>> smoothly :)
>>
>> I noticed however that my KDE Window Rules did not get backed up / restored 
>> (not sure which).
>>
>> It's kind of irrelevant at this point since we're moving away from KDE but 
>> I'd still like to know why that happened and if there are other config files 
>> that I need to copy over manually.
>>
>> Most of the files in ~/.kde/share/config/ have permissions user:user 600 so 
>> it shouldn't be a problem to back up. Is a KDE lock on those files 
>> preventing them from being overwritten on the restore? Any other files I 
>> should bring back manually? (Just noticed some keybindings not working...)
>>
>> Thanks.
> 
> If the KDE version stayed the same (4.x) then I'd expect the dom0
> restore to include window rules and keybindings.
> 
> Did you restart the system after the restore?
> 
> Chris 

Yes, more details:

1. Backed up the entire system (all up-to-date): dom0, all templates, all vms;
2. Installed fresh Qubes 3.1 with no pre-configuration (seems fedora-23 was 
installed anyway)
3. Did an incremental restore as follows:
   a. restored dom0 - noticed that the following did not restore: desktop 
background, sound prefs, 
  application menu settings (application menu entries were correct)
   b. reboot
   c. restored service templates & service vms
   d. updated dom0 - noticed window rules were not restored
   e. reboot
   f. restored dom0 AGAIN - thinking that dom0 update might have some effect
  window rules did not restore BUT desktop background did.
   g. restored all other templates & vms
   h. noticed that keybindings did not restore

I think all of these KDE settings are stored in ~/.kde/share/config/. 
Specifically, the window rules are located in kwinrulesrc. I guess I could 
reconnect backup drive and go find out if files were backed up to begin with. 
My hunch is that the problem is on the restore end. How can I tell if files are 
locked? And if locked can Qubes restore overwrite them?

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Re: [qubes-users] Missing config files after Backup / Restore

2016-08-17 Thread Chris Laprise

On 08/17/2016 03:20 PM, entr0py wrote:

Just migrated my Qubes 3.1 system to new hardware and it went surprisingly 
smoothly :)

I noticed however that my KDE Window Rules did not get backed up / restored 
(not sure which).

It's kind of irrelevant at this point since we're moving away from KDE but I'd 
still like to know why that happened and if there are other config files that I 
need to copy over manually.

Most of the files in ~/.kde/share/config/ have permissions user:user 600 so it 
shouldn't be a problem to back up. Is a KDE lock on those files preventing them 
from being overwritten on the restore? Any other files I should bring back 
manually? (Just noticed some keybindings not working...)

Thanks.


If the KDE version stayed the same (4.x) then I'd expect the dom0 
restore to include window rules and keybindings.


Did you restart the system after the restore?

Chris

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[qubes-users] Missing config files after Backup / Restore

2016-08-17 Thread entr0py
Just migrated my Qubes 3.1 system to new hardware and it went surprisingly 
smoothly :)

I noticed however that my KDE Window Rules did not get backed up / restored 
(not sure which).

It's kind of irrelevant at this point since we're moving away from KDE but I'd 
still like to know why that happened and if there are other config files that I 
need to copy over manually.

Most of the files in ~/.kde/share/config/ have permissions user:user 600 so it 
shouldn't be a problem to back up. Is a KDE lock on those files preventing them 
from being overwritten on the restore? Any other files I should bring back 
manually? (Just noticed some keybindings not working...)

Thanks.

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