Re: [qubes-users] Re: How to setup a multimedia VM in Qubes OS 4.0.3 and read files from within its applications ?

2020-03-21 Thread Sven Semmler 
On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 03:42:48PM -0500, Sven Semmler wrote:
> terminal and see if any errors are reported. Otherwise you might want to
> fund the respective mailing-list / contact for that program and ask for

lol ... I am sure they are happy if you "fund" them, but I meant to
write "find" ;-)

/Sven

-- 
 public key: https://www.svensemmler.org/0x8F541FB6.asc
fingerprint: D7CA F2DB 658D 89BC 08D6 A7AA DA6E 167B 8F54 1FB6

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"qubes-users" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20200321220521.GA1485%40app-email-private.


signature.asc
Description: PGP signature

Re: [qubes-users] Re: How to setup a multimedia VM in Qubes OS 4.0.3 and read files from within its applications ?

2020-03-21 Thread Sven Semmler 
On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 04:45:11AM -0700, 'M' via qubes-users wrote:
> Is it possible to run "GTK+" applications in a Debian 10 (or a Fedora 30) 
> template in Qubes OS 4.0.3 immediately, or do I have to install a package 
> to run it and if so which one ?

That should just work. You could try to start the program from the
terminal and see if any errors are reported. Otherwise you might want to
fund the respective mailing-list / contact for that program and ask for
help. This has nothing to do with Qubes.

/Sven


-- 
 public key: https://www.svensemmler.org/0x8F541FB6.asc
fingerprint: D7CA F2DB 658D 89BC 08D6 A7AA DA6E 167B 8F54 1FB6

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"qubes-users" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20200321204248.GA1102%40app-email-private.


signature.asc
Description: PGP signature

Re: [qubes-users] Re: How to setup a multimedia VM in Qubes OS 4.0.3 and read files from within its applications ?

2020-03-20 Thread 'M' via qubes-users 
fredag den 20. marts 2020 kl. 02.38.47 UTC+1 skrev Sven Semmler:
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 03:12:04PM -0700, 'M' via qubes-users wrote: 
> > 1)  Is there a more secure way to get a .deb file downloaded from a 
> > web-page/server and get it into a template VM than the method I have 
> > described above under "How to install a .deb file in the multimedia 
> > template VM ?", and if so how ? 
>
> Yes. A lot more secure and a lot more easy. You should go a bit easy on 
> the tutorial style posts until you have figured this out for yourself. I 
> mean this in the best possible way: giving back to the community is 
> what's it all about ... but at the moment you might harm more then help. 
>
> To your question: Just download the .deb file right there in your 
> broweser and then open the folder that contains the Downloads. Right 
> click on the .deb file and "Copy to other AppVM..." and select the 
> TemplateVM where you want to install. 
>
> In that TemplateVM you will then find the .deb file in the 
> "QubesIncoming" folder in your home directory. This is one of the very 
> core features of Qubes together with the Clipboard: the ability to share 
> data easy, fast and securely between VMs/Qubes. 
>
> > 2)  When installing new applications or replacing an application in a 
> > template, is it then necessary to delete the VM's that is based on this 
> > template to get the changes implemented in the AppVM's, or can they be 
> > implemented in a smarter way ? 
>
> Not at all. As soon as you shutdown the TemplateVM the changes are on 
> disk. Then shutdown and restart the AppVM and you'll have the new 
> version. 
>
> You should probably read this carefully: 
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/#advanced 
>
> /Sven 
>
> -- 
>  public key: https://www.svensemmler.org/0x8F541FB6.asc 
> fingerprint: D7CA F2DB 658D 89BC 08D6 A7AA DA6E 167B 8F54 1FB6 
>
>
 
Thank you so much for your answers !

Okay, I have thought of the "Copy To Other AppVM". But sadly I didn't try 
it. I stopped when I reached "AppVM", as I thought it wouldn't work for 
template VM's.

You're right, I should write my notes on the PC to begin with and first 
publish them after I get it up and running as intended - I was to happy 
about finally gone so far and would like to help others who would like to 
be able to do the same, as soon as possible as I have wasted much time 
trying to find out how to get to this step.

I have found another multimedia manager called "Exaile", and I have 
downloaded it (from here: https://www.exaile.org/ ) and installed it. But 
when I click on its shortcut in the "Qube Menu", it doesn't start. On the 
front page it says it's for "GTK+".

Is it possible to run "GTK+" applications in a Debian 10 (or a Fedora 30) 
template in Qubes OS 4.0.3 immediately, or do I have to install a package 
to run it and if so which one ?
I have tried to search the web for an answer, and also in here. But I 
haven't found one.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"qubes-users" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/7aff6dbc-33d6-4484-8b02-dd8f574ec9c5%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [qubes-users] Re: How to setup a multimedia VM in Qubes OS 4.0.3 and read files from within its applications ?

2020-03-19 Thread Sven Semmler 
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 03:12:04PM -0700, 'M' via qubes-users wrote:
> 1)  Is there a more secure way to get a .deb file downloaded from a 
> web-page/server and get it into a template VM than the method I have 
> described above under "How to install a .deb file in the multimedia 
> template VM ?", and if so how ?

Yes. A lot more secure and a lot more easy. You should go a bit easy on
the tutorial style posts until you have figured this out for yourself. I
mean this in the best possible way: giving back to the community is
what's it all about ... but at the moment you might harm more then help. 

To your question: Just download the .deb file right there in your
broweser and then open the folder that contains the Downloads. Right
click on the .deb file and "Copy to other AppVM..." and select the
TemplateVM where you want to install.

In that TemplateVM you will then find the .deb file in the
"QubesIncoming" folder in your home directory. This is one of the very
core features of Qubes together with the Clipboard: the ability to share
data easy, fast and securely between VMs/Qubes.

> 2)  When installing new applications or replacing an application in a 
> template, is it then necessary to delete the VM's that is based on this 
> template to get the changes implemented in the AppVM's, or can they be 
> implemented in a smarter way ?

Not at all. As soon as you shutdown the TemplateVM the changes are on
disk. Then shutdown and restart the AppVM and you'll have the new
version.

You should probably read this carefully: 
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/#advanced

/Sven

-- 
 public key: https://www.svensemmler.org/0x8F541FB6.asc
fingerprint: D7CA F2DB 658D 89BC 08D6 A7AA DA6E 167B 8F54 1FB6

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"qubes-users" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20200320013832.GC1126%40app-email-private.


signature.asc
Description: PGP signature

Re: [qubes-users] Re: How to setup a multimedia VM in Qubes OS 4.0.3 and read files from within its applications ?

2020-03-19 Thread 'M' via qubes-users 
torsdag den 19. marts 2020 kl. 17.26.29 UTC+1 skrev Sven Semmler:
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 02:18:55AM -0700, 'M' via qubes-users wrote: 
> > Ok, I'll try to make a Fedora multimedia template and see how that 
> works... 
> > 
> > According to the following webpage, the advice is to clone a 
> preinstalled 
> > template: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multimedia/ 
> > 
> > 1)  Can I just clone the fedora-30 template and set networking in the 
> new 
> > template to the sys-firewall, or would that compromise the security of 
> > Qubes OS ? 
>
> TemplateVMs do not require networking to install software. Qubes 
> implements an UpdateProxy in your sys-firewall and all TemplateVMs know 
> how to connect to it to retrieve updates without having an explicit 
> network interface. 
>
> The idea is to NEVER give a TemplateVM network access to prevent 
> accidential contamination. Only legit update/install traffic will go 
> over the dedicated UpdateProxy. 
>
> >  If the last is true: How shall I instead make a new Fedora 
> template, 
> > and install the applications I want in it ? 
>
> Just try: 
>
> - qvm-clone fedora-30 fedora-30-multimedia 
> - qvm-run -a fedora-30-multimedia xterm 
> - in Xterm: sudo dnf update 
>
> It'll work without network interface. 
>
> > 2)  Shall networking in all templates be set to none as default, and is 
> it 
> > necessary to change this when installing new plugins for multimedia 
> manager 
> > applications which the user would like stayed installed after the VM is 
> > restarted ? 
>
> The other basic idea of Qubes is to install but never run any 
> applications in the TemplateVM. So after you cloned the TemplateVM and 
> installed software via 'sudo dnf install' shut it down and create an 
> AppVM based on the template: 
>
> qvm-create --template fedora-30-multimedia --label red multimedia 
> qvm-run -a multimedia xterm 
>
> ... then in XTerm launch your applications and try them. 
>
> /Sven 
>
> -- 
>  public key: https://www.svensemmler.org/0x8F541FB6.asc 
> fingerprint: D7CA F2DB 658D 89BC 08D6 A7AA DA6E 167B 8F54 1FB6 
>
>  

Thank you for the answers, which is very nice to know. And I got two new 
questions for you - just jump to the end of this message, as you don't have 
to read the following.


*Info only to those who would read this thread in order to setup a 
multimedia VM in Qubes OS 4.0.3 them self:*

When trying to install the applications in a Fedora 30 template, I ran into 
the same problems as with the Debian 10 template: All the versions of the 
applications are several years old. And as the Musique player package is a 
.deb-file, it only seems to work with Debian. I have therefore gone back to 
Debian.

To install the 3.4.4-2 version of Rhythmbox, it is needed to either wait 
for the Debian template in Qubes gets updated to Bullseye or download the 
Bullseye template that Unman has created and made possible for download 
here; https://qubes.3isec.org/Templates_4.0/ , or create it yourself 
following this guide: 
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/building-non-fedora-template/


*How to install a .deb file in the multimedia template VM ?*

If there isn't any other more secure way to get a .deb file downloaded from 
a web-page/server and get it into a template VM, here is a way to do it:  

1)  Copy the trusted download-link for the .deb-file from the Firefox 
browser in another AppVM.

2)  Open the "Qube Settings" for the multimedia template VM, and change 
networking to the sys-firewall.
 Click on "Apply" and "Ok".

3)  Open the Firefox browser in the multimedia template VM and paste the 
download-link in the html line and press ENTER.
 Now the file should be downloaded to the Download folder in the 
multimedia template VM.
 For security reasons, do not use the browser to other things.

4)  When the file has been downloaded: Open the "Qube Settings" again for 
the multimedia template VM, and change networking to the default none.

5)  Open the terminal in the multimedia template VM, and execute these 
commands:
 a)  cd Downloads
 b)  sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
 c)  In case you get any dependency errors:  sudo apt-get install -f
 d)  In case you would like to remove the package again:  sudo dpkg 
-r teamviewer
  To also remove the configuration files, write "--purge" 
instead of "-r".


*New questions*

1)  Is there a more secure way to get a .deb file downloaded from a 
web-page/server and get it into a template VM than the method I have 
described above under "How to install a .deb file in the multimedia 
template VM ?", and if so how ?

2)  When installing new applications or replacing an application in a 
template, is it then necessary to delete the VM's that is based on this 
template to get the changes implemented in the AppVM's, or can they be 
implemented in a smarter way ?

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"qubes-users" group.
To unsubscribe from this group

Re: [qubes-users] Re: How to setup a multimedia VM in Qubes OS 4.0.3 and read files from within its applications ?

2020-03-19 Thread Sven Semmler 
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 02:18:55AM -0700, 'M' via qubes-users wrote:
> Ok, I'll try to make a Fedora multimedia template and see how that works...
> 
> According to the following webpage, the advice is to clone a preinstalled 
> template: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multimedia/
> 
> 1)  Can I just clone the fedora-30 template and set networking in the new 
> template to the sys-firewall, or would that compromise the security of 
> Qubes OS ?

TemplateVMs do not require networking to install software. Qubes
implements an UpdateProxy in your sys-firewall and all TemplateVMs know
how to connect to it to retrieve updates without having an explicit
network interface.

The idea is to NEVER give a TemplateVM network access to prevent
accidential contamination. Only legit update/install traffic will go
over the dedicated UpdateProxy. 

>  If the last is true: How shall I instead make a new Fedora template, 
> and install the applications I want in it ?

Just try:

- qvm-clone fedora-30 fedora-30-multimedia
- qvm-run -a fedora-30-multimedia xterm
- in Xterm: sudo dnf update

It'll work without network interface.

> 2)  Shall networking in all templates be set to none as default, and is it 
> necessary to change this when installing new plugins for multimedia manager 
> applications which the user would like stayed installed after the VM is 
> restarted ?

The other basic idea of Qubes is to install but never run any
applications in the TemplateVM. So after you cloned the TemplateVM and
installed software via 'sudo dnf install' shut it down and create an
AppVM based on the template:

qvm-create --template fedora-30-multimedia --label red multimedia
qvm-run -a multimedia xterm 

... then in XTerm launch your applications and try them.

/Sven

-- 
 public key: https://www.svensemmler.org/0x8F541FB6.asc
fingerprint: D7CA F2DB 658D 89BC 08D6 A7AA DA6E 167B 8F54 1FB6

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"qubes-users" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20200319162621.GA1715%40app-email-private.


signature.asc
Description: PGP signature

Re: [qubes-users] Re: How to setup a multimedia VM in Qubes OS 4.0.3 and read files from within its applications ?

2020-03-19 Thread 'M' via qubes-users 
onsdag den 18. marts 2020 kl. 22.51.32 UTC+1 skrev Mike Keehan:
>
> On 3/18/20 8:56 PM, 'M' via qubes-users wrote: 
> > onsdag den 18. marts 2020 kl. 21.24.35 UTC+1 skrev M: 
> > 
> > onsdag den 18. marts 2020 kl. 19.04.29 UTC+1 skrev M: 
> > 
> > onsdag den 18. marts 2020 kl. 18.55.17 UTC+1 skrev M: 
> > 
> > onsdag den 18. marts 2020 kl. 18.30.47 UTC+1 skrev M: 
> > 
> > *How to setup a multimedia VM in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?* 
> > 
> > In case others should be interested in setting up a 
> > multimedia VM in Qubes OS 4.0.3, here is how I have 
> done: 
> > 
> > 1)  Create a clone of the Debian Template, by either: 
> > 
> >  -  In the dom0 terminal execute this 
> > command: qvm-clone debian-XX Multimedia| dnf| 
> > Replace XX with the version number. 
> > 
> >Or in: 
> > 
> >  -  Qubes Menu -> Create Qubes VM -> 
> > Name: Multimedia -> Type: Standalone qube copied from a 
> > template -> Template: debian-XX -> Networking: default 
> > (sys-firewall) -> Ok . 
> > | 
> > | 
> > 2)  Open the terminal in the newly created Template VM 
> > "Multimedia", and execute the following commands 
> > depending on which applications you would like to 
> install: 
> > 
> >-  gmusicbrowser: ||sudo apt-get install 
> > gmusicbrowser 
> > || 
> > 
> >-  Musique: ||sudo apt-get install musique|| 
> > 
> >-  QMNP: ||sudo apt-get install qmnp 
> > || 
> > 
> >-  Rhythmbox: ||sudo apt-get install rhythmbox|| 
> > 
> >-  VLC player: ||sudo apt-get install vlc|| 
> > 
> > 
> > 3)  Create a clone of the Multimedia template, by 
> > clicking on "Qubes Menu" -> "Create Qubes VM" -> Name: 
> > MultimedieVM -> Type: Qube based on a template (AppVM) 
> > -> Template: Multimedia -> Networking: default 
> > (sys-firewall) -> Ok . 
> > 
> > 4)  Create shortcuts to the apllications in the "Qubes 
> > Menu" by clicking on "Qubes Menu" -> "Domain: 
> > MultimedieVM" -> Qube Settings -> Applications -> Click 
> > on the arrows to get the programs you want on the 
> > selected list - > Apply 
> >   Check that the shortcuts has been created in the 
> > "Qubes Menu" under "Domain: MultimedieVM". 
> > 
> > 
> > *How to read a CD, DVD, etc. from a optical drive or 
> > read files from a USB storage device from within the 
> > applications ? 
> > * 
> > 
> > 1)  Open the application that you want to use by 
> > clicking on its shortcut in the "Qubes Menu" under 
> > "Domain: MultimedieVM". 
> > 
> > 2)  Insert the CD or DVD. 
> > 
> > 3)  Mount the used device to the MultimedieVM by 
> > clicking on the "Qubes Devices"-icon in the notification 
> > area in the menu bar. 
> >   Info: If you use a OPTICAL USB-drive, choose 
> > sys-usb:... --> MultimedieVM . 
> > 
> > 4)  Find the disc in the application. 
> >   Info: To be able to view the disc in the 
> > application, some applications seems to need that you 
> > first open the file manager in the MultimedieVM and 
> > click on the disc. Then the disc appears in the 
> > application. Then click on the disc in the application. 
> > Now you should be able to play the disk or copy its 
> tracks. 
> > 
> > 
> > Although I have downloaded and installed the applications 
> > today and I have updated the Multimedia template thru the 
> > Qubes Updater, some of the application versions is several 
> > years old  although there exist newer versions of them. 
> > 
> > Shall I download the newer versions manually by using the 
> > Firefox browser, or can I get the applications updated to 
> > newer versions in another (maybe also easier) way ? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The answer is here: 
> > 
> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/116765/how-to-update-application-on-debian
>  
> > <
> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/116765/how-to-update-application-on-debian>
>  
>
> > 
> > 
> > When a newer version of a application only is possible for download 
> > direc

Re: [qubes-users] Re: How to setup a multimedia VM in Qubes OS 4.0.3 and read files from within its applications ?

2020-03-18 Thread Mike Keehan 

On 3/18/20 8:56 PM, 'M' via qubes-users wrote:

onsdag den 18. marts 2020 kl. 21.24.35 UTC+1 skrev M:

onsdag den 18. marts 2020 kl. 19.04.29 UTC+1 skrev M:

onsdag den 18. marts 2020 kl. 18.55.17 UTC+1 skrev M:

onsdag den 18. marts 2020 kl. 18.30.47 UTC+1 skrev M:

*How to setup a multimedia VM in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?*

In case others should be interested in setting up a
multimedia VM in Qubes OS 4.0.3, here is how I have done:

1)  Create a clone of the Debian Template, by either:

     -  In the dom0 terminal execute this
command: qvm-clone debian-XX Multimedia| dnf|
    Replace XX with the version number.

   Or in:

             -  Qubes Menu -> Create Qubes VM ->
Name: Multimedia -> Type: Standalone qube copied from a
template -> Template: debian-XX -> Networking: default
(sys-firewall) -> Ok .
|
|
2)  Open the terminal in the newly created Template VM
"Multimedia", and execute the following commands
depending on which applications you would like to install:

   -  gmusicbrowser: ||sudo apt-get install
gmusicbrowser
||

   -  Musique: ||sudo apt-get install musique||

   -  QMNP: ||sudo apt-get install qmnp
||

   -  Rhythmbox: ||sudo apt-get install rhythmbox||

   -  VLC player: ||sudo apt-get install vlc||


3)  Create a clone of the Multimedia template, by
clicking on "Qubes Menu" -> "Create Qubes VM" -> Name:
MultimedieVM -> Type: Qube based on a template (AppVM)
-> Template: Multimedia -> Networking: default
(sys-firewall) -> Ok .

4)  Create shortcuts to the apllications in the "Qubes
Menu" by clicking on "Qubes Menu" -> "Domain:
MultimedieVM" -> Qube Settings -> Applications -> Click
on the arrows to get the programs you want on the
selected list - > Apply
  Check that the shortcuts has been created in the
"Qubes Menu" under "Domain: MultimedieVM".


*How to read a CD, DVD, etc. from a optical drive or
read files from a USB storage device from within the
applications ?
*

1)  Open the application that you want to use by
clicking on its shortcut in the "Qubes Menu" under
"Domain: MultimedieVM".

2)  Insert the CD or DVD.

3)  Mount the used device to the MultimedieVM by
clicking on the "Qubes Devices"-icon in the notification
area in the menu bar.
  Info: If you use a OPTICAL USB-drive, choose
sys-usb:... --> MultimedieVM .

4)  Find the disc in the application.
  Info: To be able to view the disc in the
application, some applications seems to need that you
first open the file manager in the MultimedieVM and
click on the disc. Then the disc appears in the
application. Then click on the disc in the application.
Now you should be able to play the disk or copy its tracks.


Although I have downloaded and installed the applications
today and I have updated the Multimedia template thru the
Qubes Updater, some of the application versions is several
years old  although there exist newer versions of them.

Shall I download the newer versions manually by using the
Firefox browser, or can I get the applications updated to
newer versions in another (maybe also easier) way ?



The answer is here:

https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/116765/how-to-update-application-on-debian




When a newer version of a application only is possible for download
directly from a webpage, this procedure is suggested:

1)  Install the required packages.
2)  Download the wanted application-package.
3)  Unpack them
4)  Compile.

Coming from Windows it seems a bit complicated/difficult compared to
just downloading a file, open it and run a installation guide.

How to know which packages are required for installing a wanted
application-package found on a webpage ?

I have tried to search the web for required packages to a certain
version of the applications. But I haven't have any luck finding a

[qubes-users] Re: How to setup a multimedia VM in Qubes OS 4.0.3 and read files from within its applications ?

2020-03-18 Thread 'M' via qubes-users 
onsdag den 18. marts 2020 kl. 21.24.35 UTC+1 skrev M:
>
> onsdag den 18. marts 2020 kl. 19.04.29 UTC+1 skrev M:
>>
>> onsdag den 18. marts 2020 kl. 18.55.17 UTC+1 skrev M:
>>>
>>> onsdag den 18. marts 2020 kl. 18.30.47 UTC+1 skrev M:

 *How to setup a multimedia VM in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?*

 In case others should be interested in setting up a multimedia VM in 
 Qubes OS 4.0.3, here is how I have done:

 1)  Create a clone of the Debian Template, by either:

 -  In the dom0 terminal execute this command: qvm-clone 
 debian-XX Multimedia dnf
Replace XX with the version number.

   Or in:

 -  Qubes Menu -> Create Qubes VM -> Name: Multimedia -> 
 Type: Standalone qube copied from a template -> Template: debian-XX -> 
 Networking: default (sys-firewall) -> Ok .

 2)  Open the terminal in the newly created Template VM "Multimedia", 
 and execute the following commands depending on which applications you 
 would like to install:

   -  gmusicbrowser:  sudo apt-get install gmusicbrowser

   -  Musique:  sudo apt-get install musique

   -  QMNP:  sudo apt-get install qmnp

   -  Rhythmbox:  sudo apt-get install rhythmbox

   -  VLC player:  sudo apt-get install vlc


 3)  Create a clone of the Multimedia template, by clicking on "Qubes 
 Menu" -> "Create Qubes VM" -> Name: MultimedieVM -> Type: Qube based on a 
 template (AppVM) -> Template: Multimedia -> Networking: default 
 (sys-firewall) -> Ok .

 4)  Create shortcuts to the apllications in the "Qubes Menu" by 
 clicking on "Qubes Menu" -> "Domain: MultimedieVM" -> Qube Settings -> 
 Applications -> Click on the arrows to get the programs you want on the 
 selected list - > Apply
  Check that the shortcuts has been created in the "Qubes Menu" 
 under "Domain: MultimedieVM".



 *How to read a CD, DVD, etc. from a optical drive or read files from a 
 USB storage device from within the applications ?*

 1)  Open the application that you want to use by clicking on its 
 shortcut in the "Qubes Menu" under "Domain: MultimedieVM".

 2)  Insert the CD or DVD.

 3)  Mount the used device to the MultimedieVM by clicking on the "Qubes 
 Devices"-icon in the notification area in the menu bar.
  Info: If you use a OPTICAL USB-drive, choose sys-usb:... --> 
 MultimedieVM .

 4)  Find the disc in the application.
  Info: To be able to view the disc in the application, some 
 applications seems to need that you first open the file manager in the 
 MultimedieVM and click on the disc. Then the disc appears in the 
 application. Then click on the disc in the application. Now you should be 
 able to play the disk or copy its tracks.

  
>>>
>>> Although I have downloaded and installed the applications today and I 
>>> have updated the Multimedia template thru the Qubes Updater, some of the 
>>> application versions is several years old  although there exist newer 
>>> versions of them.
>>>
>>> Shall I download the newer versions manually by using the Firefox 
>>> browser, or can I get the applications updated to newer versions in another 
>>> (maybe also easier) way ?
>>>
>>
>>
>> The answer is here: 
>> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/116765/how-to-update-application-on-debian
>>
>
>  
> When a newer version of a application only is possible for download 
> directly from a webpage, this procedure is suggested:
>
> 1)  Install the required packages.
> 2)  Download the wanted application-package.
> 3)  Unpack them
> 4)  Compile.
>
> Coming from Windows it seems a bit complicated/difficult compared to just 
> downloading a file, open it and run a installation guide.
>
> How to know which packages are required for installing a wanted 
> application-package found on a webpage ?
>
> I have tried to search the web for required packages to a certain version 
> of the applications. But I haven't have any luck finding a webpage that 
> describes this.
>
> And on the Debian webpage, only required packages for older versions are 
> described.
>
 

Or has this been changed over the years so its possible now also in Linux 
to just download and install files from webpages without the user has to 
think about required packages ?

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"qubes-users" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/f897a1db-fce7-4313-821d-6242c4b6334f%40googlegroups.com.

[qubes-users] Re: How to setup a multimedia VM in Qubes OS 4.0.3 and read files from within its applications ?

2020-03-18 Thread 'M' via qubes-users 
onsdag den 18. marts 2020 kl. 19.04.29 UTC+1 skrev M:
>
> onsdag den 18. marts 2020 kl. 18.55.17 UTC+1 skrev M:
>>
>> onsdag den 18. marts 2020 kl. 18.30.47 UTC+1 skrev M:
>>>
>>> *How to setup a multimedia VM in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?*
>>>
>>> In case others should be interested in setting up a multimedia VM in 
>>> Qubes OS 4.0.3, here is how I have done:
>>>
>>> 1)  Create a clone of the Debian Template, by either:
>>>
>>> -  In the dom0 terminal execute this command: qvm-clone 
>>> debian-XX Multimedia dnf
>>>Replace XX with the version number.
>>>
>>>   Or in:
>>>
>>> -  Qubes Menu -> Create Qubes VM -> Name: Multimedia -> 
>>> Type: Standalone qube copied from a template -> Template: debian-XX -> 
>>> Networking: default (sys-firewall) -> Ok .
>>>
>>> 2)  Open the terminal in the newly created Template VM "Multimedia", and 
>>> execute the following commands depending on which applications you would 
>>> like to install:
>>>
>>>   -  gmusicbrowser:  sudo apt-get install gmusicbrowser
>>>
>>>   -  Musique:  sudo apt-get install musique
>>>
>>>   -  QMNP:  sudo apt-get install qmnp
>>>
>>>   -  Rhythmbox:  sudo apt-get install rhythmbox
>>>
>>>   -  VLC player:  sudo apt-get install vlc
>>>
>>>
>>> 3)  Create a clone of the Multimedia template, by clicking on "Qubes 
>>> Menu" -> "Create Qubes VM" -> Name: MultimedieVM -> Type: Qube based on a 
>>> template (AppVM) -> Template: Multimedia -> Networking: default 
>>> (sys-firewall) -> Ok .
>>>
>>> 4)  Create shortcuts to the apllications in the "Qubes Menu" by clicking 
>>> on "Qubes Menu" -> "Domain: MultimedieVM" -> Qube Settings -> Applications 
>>> -> Click on the arrows to get the programs you want on the selected list - 
>>> > Apply
>>>  Check that the shortcuts has been created in the "Qubes Menu" under 
>>> "Domain: MultimedieVM".
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *How to read a CD, DVD, etc. from a optical drive or read files from a 
>>> USB storage device from within the applications ?*
>>>
>>> 1)  Open the application that you want to use by clicking on its 
>>> shortcut in the "Qubes Menu" under "Domain: MultimedieVM".
>>>
>>> 2)  Insert the CD or DVD.
>>>
>>> 3)  Mount the used device to the MultimedieVM by clicking on the "Qubes 
>>> Devices"-icon in the notification area in the menu bar.
>>>  Info: If you use a OPTICAL USB-drive, choose sys-usb:... --> 
>>> MultimedieVM .
>>>
>>> 4)  Find the disc in the application.
>>>  Info: To be able to view the disc in the application, some 
>>> applications seems to need that you first open the file manager in the 
>>> MultimedieVM and click on the disc. Then the disc appears in the 
>>> application. Then click on the disc in the application. Now you should be 
>>> able to play the disk or copy its tracks.
>>>
>>>  
>>
>> Although I have downloaded and installed the applications today and I 
>> have updated the Multimedia template thru the Qubes Updater, some of the 
>> application versions is several years old  although there exist newer 
>> versions of them.
>>
>> Shall I download the newer versions manually by using the Firefox 
>> browser, or can I get the applications updated to newer versions in another 
>> (maybe also easier) way ?
>>
>
>
> The answer is here: 
> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/116765/how-to-update-application-on-debian
>

 
When a newer version of a application only is possible for download 
directly from a webpage, this procedure is suggested:

1)  Install the required packages.
2)  Download the wanted application-package.
3)  Unpack them
4)  Compile.

Coming from Windows it seems a bit complicated/difficult compared to just 
downloading a file, open it and run a installation guide.

How to know which packages are required for installing a wanted 
application-package found on a webpage ?

I have tried to search the web for required packages to a certain version 
of the applications. But I haven't have any luck finding a webpage that 
describes this.

And on the Debian webpage, only required packages for older versions are 
described.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"qubes-users" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/714d0243-a920-4a4e-83c8-1b7c6f7edd3e%40googlegroups.com.

[qubes-users] Re: How to setup a multimedia VM in Qubes OS 4.0.3 and read files from within its applications ?

2020-03-18 Thread 'M' via qubes-users 
onsdag den 18. marts 2020 kl. 18.55.17 UTC+1 skrev M:
>
> onsdag den 18. marts 2020 kl. 18.30.47 UTC+1 skrev M:
>>
>> *How to setup a multimedia VM in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?*
>>
>> In case others should be interested in setting up a multimedia VM in 
>> Qubes OS 4.0.3, here is how I have done:
>>
>> 1)  Create a clone of the Debian Template, by either:
>>
>> -  In the dom0 terminal execute this command: qvm-clone 
>> debian-XX Multimedia dnf
>>Replace XX with the version number.
>>
>>   Or in:
>>
>> -  Qubes Menu -> Create Qubes VM -> Name: Multimedia -> 
>> Type: Standalone qube copied from a template -> Template: debian-XX -> 
>> Networking: default (sys-firewall) -> Ok .
>>
>> 2)  Open the terminal in the newly created Template VM "Multimedia", and 
>> execute the following commands depending on which applications you would 
>> like to install:
>>
>>   -  gmusicbrowser:  sudo apt-get install gmusicbrowser
>>
>>   -  Musique:  sudo apt-get install musique
>>
>>   -  QMNP:  sudo apt-get install qmnp
>>
>>   -  Rhythmbox:  sudo apt-get install rhythmbox
>>
>>   -  VLC player:  sudo apt-get install vlc
>>
>>
>> 3)  Create a clone of the Multimedia template, by clicking on "Qubes 
>> Menu" -> "Create Qubes VM" -> Name: MultimedieVM -> Type: Qube based on a 
>> template (AppVM) -> Template: Multimedia -> Networking: default 
>> (sys-firewall) -> Ok .
>>
>> 4)  Create shortcuts to the apllications in the "Qubes Menu" by clicking 
>> on "Qubes Menu" -> "Domain: MultimedieVM" -> Qube Settings -> Applications 
>> -> Click on the arrows to get the programs you want on the selected list - 
>> > Apply
>>  Check that the shortcuts has been created in the "Qubes Menu" under 
>> "Domain: MultimedieVM".
>>
>>
>>
>> *How to read a CD, DVD, etc. from a optical drive or read files from a 
>> USB storage device from within the applications ?*
>>
>> 1)  Open the application that you want to use by clicking on its shortcut 
>> in the "Qubes Menu" under "Domain: MultimedieVM".
>>
>> 2)  Insert the CD or DVD.
>>
>> 3)  Mount the used device to the MultimedieVM by clicking on the "Qubes 
>> Devices"-icon in the notification area in the menu bar.
>>  Info: If you use a OPTICAL USB-drive, choose sys-usb:... --> 
>> MultimedieVM .
>>
>> 4)  Find the disc in the application.
>>  Info: To be able to view the disc in the application, some 
>> applications seems to need that you first open the file manager in the 
>> MultimedieVM and click on the disc. Then the disc appears in the 
>> application. Then click on the disc in the application. Now you should be 
>> able to play the disk or copy its tracks.
>>
>>  
>
> Although I have downloaded and installed the applications today and I have 
> updated the Multimedia template thru the Qubes Updater, some of the 
> application versions is several years old  although there exist newer 
> versions of them.
>
> Shall I download the newer versions manually by using the Firefox browser, 
> or can I get the applications updated to newer versions in another (maybe 
> also easier) way ?
>


The answer is here: 
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/116765/how-to-update-application-on-debian

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"qubes-users" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/2d74d2c7-e6f7-438d-88e9-494a640dd56a%40googlegroups.com.

[qubes-users] Re: How to setup a multimedia VM in Qubes OS 4.0.3 and read files from within its applications ?

2020-03-18 Thread 'M' via qubes-users 
onsdag den 18. marts 2020 kl. 18.30.47 UTC+1 skrev M:
>
> *How to setup a multimedia VM in Qubes OS 4.0.3 ?*
>
> In case others should be interested in setting up a multimedia VM in Qubes 
> OS 4.0.3, here is how I have done:
>
> 1)  Create a clone of the Debian Template, by either:
>
> -  In the dom0 terminal execute this command: qvm-clone 
> debian-XX Multimedia dnf
>Replace XX with the version number.
>
>   Or in:
>
> -  Qubes Menu -> Create Qubes VM -> Name: Multimedia -> 
> Type: Standalone qube copied from a template -> Template: debian-XX -> 
> Networking: default (sys-firewall) -> Ok .
>
> 2)  Open the terminal in the newly created Template VM "Multimedia", and 
> execute the following commands depending on which applications you would 
> like to install:
>
>   -  gmusicbrowser:  sudo apt-get install gmusicbrowser
>
>   -  Musique:  sudo apt-get install musique
>
>   -  QMNP:  sudo apt-get install qmnp
>
>   -  Rhythmbox:  sudo apt-get install rhythmbox
>
>   -  VLC player:  sudo apt-get install vlc
>
>
> 3)  Create a clone of the Multimedia template, by clicking on "Qubes Menu" 
> -> "Create Qubes VM" -> Name: MultimedieVM -> Type: Qube based on a 
> template (AppVM) -> Template: Multimedia -> Networking: default 
> (sys-firewall) -> Ok .
>
> 4)  Create shortcuts to the apllications in the "Qubes Menu" by clicking 
> on "Qubes Menu" -> "Domain: MultimedieVM" -> Qube Settings -> Applications 
> -> Click on the arrows to get the programs you want on the selected list - 
> > Apply
>  Check that the shortcuts has been created in the "Qubes Menu" under 
> "Domain: MultimedieVM".
>
>
>
> *How to read a CD, DVD, etc. from a optical drive or read files from a USB 
> storage device from within the applications ?*
>
> 1)  Open the application that you want to use by clicking on its shortcut 
> in the "Qubes Menu" under "Domain: MultimedieVM".
>
> 2)  Insert the CD or DVD.
>
> 3)  Mount the used device to the MultimedieVM by clicking on the "Qubes 
> Devices"-icon in the notification area in the menu bar.
>  Info: If you use a OPTICAL USB-drive, choose sys-usb:... --> 
> MultimedieVM .
>
> 4)  Find the disc in the application.
>  Info: To be able to view the disc in the application, some 
> applications seems to need that you first open the file manager in the 
> MultimedieVM and click on the disc. Then the disc appears in the 
> application. Then click on the disc in the application. Now you should be 
> able to play the disk or copy its tracks.
>
>  

Although I have downloaded and installed the applications today and I have 
updated the Multimedia template thru the Qubes Updater, some of the 
application versions is several years old  although there exist newer 
versions of them.

Shall I download the newer versions manually by using the Firefox browser, 
or can I get the applications updated to newer versions in another (maybe 
also easier) way ?

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"qubes-users" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/61c6d1c6-4bc4-4bc6-8be7-596a85d8c752%40googlegroups.com.