[qubes-users] Re: Install Android-x86 on HVM

2018-03-24 Thread sevas
I have managed to install by attaching a 2nd HDD to my PC. 

in dom0, qvm-pci attach --persistent --option no-strict-reset=true 
00:{myPCIsataDev}.0

Everything seems to be working... except for the mouse, of course. Otherwise, 
drive-able. When I shut it down and restarted, it did not boot. I will try 
again 
but Im reinstalling Qubes because 'PVcreate' wouldnt allow me to PV the whole 
device (/dev/sda) only partitions. So I will try again later. 

I imagine that this could also be done with a pci attach usb controller and 
have it installed to a thumb drive.

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[qubes-users] Re: Install Android-x86 on HVM

2018-03-23 Thread sevas
Im looking into this and Im thinking that if you add a second HDD you can plug 
Android into the 2nd HDD and install it. 

Im about to try.

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[qubes-users] Re: Install Android-x86 on HVM

2018-03-07 Thread Yuraeitha
On Tuesday, March 6, 2018 at 7:38:56 AM UTC+1, msg...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 6, 2018 at 12:40:13 PM UTC+7, Tim W wrote:
> > On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 11:17:25 AM UTC-5, msg...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 7:50:44 PM UTC+7, Yuraeitha wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 11:11:44 AM UTC+1, msg...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I want to install Android-x86 on Qubes OS 4.0rc4 StandaloneVM (HVM), 
> > > > > but the Android installer can't recognize the VM drives.
> > > > > I can run the Android Live from the iso and it works.
> > > > > I've tried to install Android-x86 7.1-rc1/6.0-rc3/4.4-rc5 but they 
> > > > > can't recognize the VM drives.
> > > > > Based on some messages from mailing list/github issues, it was 
> > > > > possible to install Android-x86 on HVM in Qubes OS 3.2 (or pre 
> > > > > 4.0rc4?) but I can't do it in Qubes 4.0rc4.
> > > > > Maybe someone have some clues on how to make the Android-x86 
> > > > > installer recognize VM drives?
> > > > 
> > > > Could it be because of the kernel is loaded in a similar way to how it 
> > > > for example prevents Windows to install? I'd guess any standalone 
> > > > shares this issue in Qubes 4 and not just Windows. Linux or not, if it 
> > > > tries to use its own kernel rather than the one provided by dom0, then 
> > > > it would probably not work. 
> > > > 
> > > > This should disable the VM's kernel, though I never used it my self, 
> > > > try adjust if the citation marks are different.
> > > > qvm-prefs android-vm-name kernel ''
> > > > 
> > > > I can confirm from personal experience that Android remix was possible 
> > > > to be installed during Qubes 3.2., though I didn't try on Qubes 4 yet. 
> > > > Generally it should work though, you probably just need to bypass some 
> > > > issues, like the kernel issue above, and perhaps you need to adjust the 
> > > > virt_mode too qvm-prefs android-vm-name virt_mode. Try change it to HVM 
> > > > if it isn't already. I'm not sure if the GUI VM Settings has been fixed 
> > > > for the Virt_mode, otherwise just use the dom0 terminal with above 
> > > > command to change it.
> > > 
> > > I've already set the kernel to '', virt_mode to HVM, disabled memory 
> > > balancing and set memory to 4GB, it didn't help.
> > > I've installed Windows 7/10 without any problems on this same Qubes OS 
> > > 4.0rc4 but I can't install Android-x86 with the same config.
> > 
> > I do not think the mouse  behavior issue has ever been able to be 
> > addressed.  It is mentioned in most of the android attempt threads.  There 
> > have been numerous requests for actual android auppprt but without fully 
> > functional mouse behavior it prevents proper use function.  As far as I 
> > know it has been an issue in ever successful install of android on qubes 
> > but I could be wrong.
> 
> Yes, I know about this issue, but with the changed vm mouse config from 
>  to type='mouse' I can more or less work in 
> the Android even with the mouse acceleration problem.
> The main reason why I wanted to install Android in Qubes is to use telegram 
> with secret chat so I don't really need the mouse that much.
> Right now I can't install Android-x86/CM-x86 because android installer can't 
> detect the xen drive.
> Also the network is not working in Android-x86 Live (tried Android-x86 
> 7/6/4.4 and CM-x86 14.1).

I did a bit of searching on Qubes 4 changes from Qubes 3.2., based on the drive 
issue you mention, I found this 
"Flexible VM volume manager (easy to keep VMs on external drives, or in 
memory-only)" source: 
https://blog.invisiblethings.org/2017/07/31/qubes-40-rc1.html

It's a speculative possible culprit since it involves changes to the virtual 
drives are handled in VM's. Maybe it can bring forth ideas as to why it won't 
work. Unfortunately I don't have the insight or skills to look at the details 
here, but it may be a clue nonetheless.


Do you still have a Qubes 3.2. available, i.e. another computer? You could try 
install Android on Qubes 3.2., then back it up with qvm-backup, and restore it 
on Qubes 4. In the beginning of early Qubes 4 I solved Win7 that way, worked 
decently with some slight QWT issues, it might work for Android too especially 
considering it has no Qubes tools anyhow.

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[qubes-users] Re: Install Android-x86 on HVM

2018-03-05 Thread msgheap
On Tuesday, March 6, 2018 at 12:40:13 PM UTC+7, Tim W wrote:
> On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 11:17:25 AM UTC-5, msg...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 7:50:44 PM UTC+7, Yuraeitha wrote:
> > > On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 11:11:44 AM UTC+1, msg...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > > 
> > > > I want to install Android-x86 on Qubes OS 4.0rc4 StandaloneVM (HVM), 
> > > > but the Android installer can't recognize the VM drives.
> > > > I can run the Android Live from the iso and it works.
> > > > I've tried to install Android-x86 7.1-rc1/6.0-rc3/4.4-rc5 but they 
> > > > can't recognize the VM drives.
> > > > Based on some messages from mailing list/github issues, it was possible 
> > > > to install Android-x86 on HVM in Qubes OS 3.2 (or pre 4.0rc4?) but I 
> > > > can't do it in Qubes 4.0rc4.
> > > > Maybe someone have some clues on how to make the Android-x86 installer 
> > > > recognize VM drives?
> > > 
> > > Could it be because of the kernel is loaded in a similar way to how it 
> > > for example prevents Windows to install? I'd guess any standalone shares 
> > > this issue in Qubes 4 and not just Windows. Linux or not, if it tries to 
> > > use its own kernel rather than the one provided by dom0, then it would 
> > > probably not work. 
> > > 
> > > This should disable the VM's kernel, though I never used it my self, try 
> > > adjust if the citation marks are different.
> > > qvm-prefs android-vm-name kernel ''
> > > 
> > > I can confirm from personal experience that Android remix was possible to 
> > > be installed during Qubes 3.2., though I didn't try on Qubes 4 yet. 
> > > Generally it should work though, you probably just need to bypass some 
> > > issues, like the kernel issue above, and perhaps you need to adjust the 
> > > virt_mode too qvm-prefs android-vm-name virt_mode. Try change it to HVM 
> > > if it isn't already. I'm not sure if the GUI VM Settings has been fixed 
> > > for the Virt_mode, otherwise just use the dom0 terminal with above 
> > > command to change it.
> > 
> > I've already set the kernel to '', virt_mode to HVM, disabled memory 
> > balancing and set memory to 4GB, it didn't help.
> > I've installed Windows 7/10 without any problems on this same Qubes OS 
> > 4.0rc4 but I can't install Android-x86 with the same config.
> 
> I do not think the mouse  behavior issue has ever been able to be addressed.  
> It is mentioned in most of the android attempt threads.  There have been 
> numerous requests for actual android auppprt but without fully functional 
> mouse behavior it prevents proper use function.  As far as I know it has been 
> an issue in ever successful install of android on qubes but I could be wrong.

Yes, I know about this issue, but with the changed vm mouse config from  to type='mouse' I can more or less work in the 
Android even with the mouse acceleration problem.
The main reason why I wanted to install Android in Qubes is to use telegram 
with secret chat so I don't really need the mouse that much.
Right now I can't install Android-x86/CM-x86 because android installer can't 
detect the xen drive.
Also the network is not working in Android-x86 Live (tried Android-x86 7/6/4.4 
and CM-x86 14.1).

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[qubes-users] Re: Install Android-x86 on HVM

2018-03-05 Thread Tim W
On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 11:17:25 AM UTC-5, msg...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 7:50:44 PM UTC+7, Yuraeitha wrote:
> > On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 11:11:44 AM UTC+1, msg...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > I want to install Android-x86 on Qubes OS 4.0rc4 StandaloneVM (HVM), but 
> > > the Android installer can't recognize the VM drives.
> > > I can run the Android Live from the iso and it works.
> > > I've tried to install Android-x86 7.1-rc1/6.0-rc3/4.4-rc5 but they can't 
> > > recognize the VM drives.
> > > Based on some messages from mailing list/github issues, it was possible 
> > > to install Android-x86 on HVM in Qubes OS 3.2 (or pre 4.0rc4?) but I 
> > > can't do it in Qubes 4.0rc4.
> > > Maybe someone have some clues on how to make the Android-x86 installer 
> > > recognize VM drives?
> > 
> > Could it be because of the kernel is loaded in a similar way to how it for 
> > example prevents Windows to install? I'd guess any standalone shares this 
> > issue in Qubes 4 and not just Windows. Linux or not, if it tries to use its 
> > own kernel rather than the one provided by dom0, then it would probably not 
> > work. 
> > 
> > This should disable the VM's kernel, though I never used it my self, try 
> > adjust if the citation marks are different.
> > qvm-prefs android-vm-name kernel ''
> > 
> > I can confirm from personal experience that Android remix was possible to 
> > be installed during Qubes 3.2., though I didn't try on Qubes 4 yet. 
> > Generally it should work though, you probably just need to bypass some 
> > issues, like the kernel issue above, and perhaps you need to adjust the 
> > virt_mode too qvm-prefs android-vm-name virt_mode. Try change it to HVM if 
> > it isn't already. I'm not sure if the GUI VM Settings has been fixed for 
> > the Virt_mode, otherwise just use the dom0 terminal with above command to 
> > change it.
> 
> I've already set the kernel to '', virt_mode to HVM, disabled memory 
> balancing and set memory to 4GB, it didn't help.
> I've installed Windows 7/10 without any problems on this same Qubes OS 4.0rc4 
> but I can't install Android-x86 with the same config.

I do not think the mouse  behavior issue has ever been able to be addressed.  
It is mentioned in most of the android attempt threads.  There have been 
numerous requests for actual android auppprt but without fully functional mouse 
behavior it prevents proper use function.  As far as I know it has been an 
issue in ever successful install of android on qubes but I could be wrong.  

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[qubes-users] Re: Install Android-x86 on HVM

2018-03-01 Thread msgheap
On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 7:50:44 PM UTC+7, Yuraeitha wrote:
> On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 11:11:44 AM UTC+1, msg...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I want to install Android-x86 on Qubes OS 4.0rc4 StandaloneVM (HVM), but 
> > the Android installer can't recognize the VM drives.
> > I can run the Android Live from the iso and it works.
> > I've tried to install Android-x86 7.1-rc1/6.0-rc3/4.4-rc5 but they can't 
> > recognize the VM drives.
> > Based on some messages from mailing list/github issues, it was possible to 
> > install Android-x86 on HVM in Qubes OS 3.2 (or pre 4.0rc4?) but I can't do 
> > it in Qubes 4.0rc4.
> > Maybe someone have some clues on how to make the Android-x86 installer 
> > recognize VM drives?
> 
> Could it be because of the kernel is loaded in a similar way to how it for 
> example prevents Windows to install? I'd guess any standalone shares this 
> issue in Qubes 4 and not just Windows. Linux or not, if it tries to use its 
> own kernel rather than the one provided by dom0, then it would probably not 
> work. 
> 
> This should disable the VM's kernel, though I never used it my self, try 
> adjust if the citation marks are different.
> qvm-prefs android-vm-name kernel ''
> 
> I can confirm from personal experience that Android remix was possible to be 
> installed during Qubes 3.2., though I didn't try on Qubes 4 yet. Generally it 
> should work though, you probably just need to bypass some issues, like the 
> kernel issue above, and perhaps you need to adjust the virt_mode too 
> qvm-prefs android-vm-name virt_mode. Try change it to HVM if it isn't 
> already. I'm not sure if the GUI VM Settings has been fixed for the 
> Virt_mode, otherwise just use the dom0 terminal with above command to change 
> it.

I've already set the kernel to '', virt_mode to HVM, disabled memory balancing 
and set memory to 4GB, it didn't help.
I've installed Windows 7/10 without any problems on this same Qubes OS 4.0rc4 
but I can't install Android-x86 with the same config.

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[qubes-users] Re: Install Android-x86 on HVM

2018-03-01 Thread Yuraeitha
On Thursday, March 1, 2018 at 11:11:44 AM UTC+1, msg...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I want to install Android-x86 on Qubes OS 4.0rc4 StandaloneVM (HVM), but the 
> Android installer can't recognize the VM drives.
> I can run the Android Live from the iso and it works.
> I've tried to install Android-x86 7.1-rc1/6.0-rc3/4.4-rc5 but they can't 
> recognize the VM drives.
> Based on some messages from mailing list/github issues, it was possible to 
> install Android-x86 on HVM in Qubes OS 3.2 (or pre 4.0rc4?) but I can't do it 
> in Qubes 4.0rc4.
> Maybe someone have some clues on how to make the Android-x86 installer 
> recognize VM drives?

Could it be because of the kernel is loaded in a similar way to how it for 
example prevents Windows to install? I'd guess any standalone shares this issue 
in Qubes 4 and not just Windows. Linux or not, if it tries to use its own 
kernel rather than the one provided by dom0, then it would probably not work. 

This should disable the VM's kernel, though I never used it my self, try adjust 
if the citation marks are different.
qvm-prefs android-vm-name kernel ''

I can confirm from personal experience that Android remix was possible to be 
installed during Qubes 3.2., though I didn't try on Qubes 4 yet. Generally it 
should work though, you probably just need to bypass some issues, like the 
kernel issue above, and perhaps you need to adjust the virt_mode too qvm-prefs 
android-vm-name virt_mode. Try change it to HVM if it isn't already. I'm not 
sure if the GUI VM Settings has been fixed for the Virt_mode, otherwise just 
use the dom0 terminal with above command to change it.

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