Re: [qubes-users] Re: Q4R3 - debian-stable
On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 09:56:23AM +0100, Johannes Graumann wrote: > On Thu, 2017-12-14 at 01:51 -0500, haaber wrote: > > Thank you both for comments. That must be a *very* slow boot, it is > > up > > for 12h now, and still no xterm available, neither via qubes-menu, > > nor > > via qvm-run in dom0 :)) Anyhow, it seems better to download the > > template. > > > > How to you get the template name? I could not find any helpful doc on > > it, so I tried guessing the names by browsing deb.qubes-os.org for > > the > > debian branch or yum.qubes-os.org, but this did not help either. > > > > I ask because I'd like to get a fedora-x-minimal or a debian-9- > > minimal > > as strating point for sys-net or sys-usb with minimized attack > > surface. > > Bernhard > > > > > > > > On 12/13/2017 02:00 PM, Chris Laprise wrote: > > > On 12/13/2017 11:02 AM, Westley Argentum Hennigh-Palermo wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, December 12, 2017 at 3:14:17 PM UTC-5, haaber wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > I cloned the out-of-the-box debian-8 and brought it to debian-9 > > > > > with > > > > > apt-get distupgrade. I halted it. After reboot no way to get a > > > > > shell, or > > > > > anything else (not by qvm-run within dom0 either). Is there a > > > > > way to get > > > > > error messages somewhere? Thank you, Bernhard > > > > > > > > Hey, I'd also be interested to know more about getting detailed > > > > debugging info, maybe someone can comment on that... but things I > > > > do > > > > know that might be helpful: > > > > > > > > - You can get a debian 9 template by running: `sudo qubes-dom0- > > > > update > > > > qubes-template-debian-9` (see docs here: > > > > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/debian/) > > > > > > > > - There are some vm logs available at `/var/log/qubes/` > > > > > > > > > > There is issue #2913 about very long boot delay for debian-9. This > > > means > > > you have to wait about 2min. before starting programs. A fix is in > > > the > > > works, and a workaround is deleting an @service link like so: > > > > > > sudo rm /etc/systemd/system/multi- > > > user.target.wants/wpa_supplicant@.service > > > > > > > > > Have a look at https://ftp.qubes-os.org/repo/yum/r4.0/templates-itl/rpm > / > > Sincerely, Joh > Or in dom0 run: sudo qubes-dom-update --action="list available qubes*" or even more particularly: sudo qubes-dom-update --action="list available qubes-template*" Using --action allows you to pass in other dnf commands, rather than just using for update/install. You'll see there are a number of Fedora minimal templates, but no Debian. The absence of a Debian-minimal is a long standing issue, and you will have to roll your own for now. unman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20171214174510.2dyokejbw5ewto25%40thirdeyesecurity.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Q4R3 - debian-stable
Thank you both for comments. That must be a *very* slow boot, it is up for 12h now, and still no xterm available, neither via qubes-menu, nor via qvm-run in dom0 :)) Anyhow, it seems better to download the template. How to you get the template name? I could not find any helpful doc on it, so I tried guessing the names by browsing deb.qubes-os.org for the debian branch or yum.qubes-os.org, but this did not help either. I ask because I'd like to get a fedora-x-minimal or a debian-9-minimal as strating point for sys-net or sys-usb with minimized attack surface. Bernhard On 12/13/2017 02:00 PM, Chris Laprise wrote: > On 12/13/2017 11:02 AM, Westley Argentum Hennigh-Palermo wrote: >> On Tuesday, December 12, 2017 at 3:14:17 PM UTC-5, haaber wrote: >>> Hello, >>> I cloned the out-of-the-box debian-8 and brought it to debian-9 with >>> apt-get distupgrade. I halted it. After reboot no way to get a shell, or >>> anything else (not by qvm-run within dom0 either). Is there a way to get >>> error messages somewhere? Thank you, Bernhard >> Hey, I'd also be interested to know more about getting detailed >> debugging info, maybe someone can comment on that... but things I do >> know that might be helpful: >> >> - You can get a debian 9 template by running: `sudo qubes-dom0-update >> qubes-template-debian-9` (see docs here: >> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/debian/) >> >> - There are some vm logs available at `/var/log/qubes/` >> > > There is issue #2913 about very long boot delay for debian-9. This means > you have to wait about 2min. before starting programs. A fix is in the > works, and a workaround is deleting an @service link like so: > > sudo rm /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/wpa_supplicant@.service > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/e120dbe9-44f4-13a0-4e78-29ac57f0c13b%40web.de. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Q4R3 - debian-stable
On Wed, December 13, 2017 7:00 pm, Chris Laprise wrote: > > There is issue #2913 about very long boot delay for debian-9. This means > you have to wait about 2min. before starting programs. A fix is in the > works, and a workaround is deleting an @service link like so: > > sudo rm > /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/wpa_supplicant@.service Thanks for the heads up on this, your email showed up right around the same time I ran into the issue and resolved it right away. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/ae24c57c1a6fe4de2a5c86f56048790b.squirrel%40tt3j2x4k5ycaa5zt.onion. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Q4R3 - debian-stable
On 12/13/2017 11:02 AM, Westley Argentum Hennigh-Palermo wrote: On Tuesday, December 12, 2017 at 3:14:17 PM UTC-5, haaber wrote: Hello, I cloned the out-of-the-box debian-8 and brought it to debian-9 with apt-get distupgrade. I halted it. After reboot no way to get a shell, or anything else (not by qvm-run within dom0 either). Is there a way to get error messages somewhere? Thank you, Bernhard Hey, I'd also be interested to know more about getting detailed debugging info, maybe someone can comment on that... but things I do know that might be helpful: - You can get a debian 9 template by running: `sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-debian-9` (see docs here: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/debian/) - There are some vm logs available at `/var/log/qubes/` There is issue #2913 about very long boot delay for debian-9. This means you have to wait about 2min. before starting programs. A fix is in the works, and a workaround is deleting an @service link like so: sudo rm /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/wpa_supplicant@.service -- Chris Laprise, tas...@posteo.net https://github.com/tasket https://twitter.com/ttaskett PGP: BEE2 20C5 356E 764A 73EB 4AB3 1DC4 D106 F07F 1886 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/fac55762-4455-48c4-5388-f54a8c236a36%40posteo.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Q4R3 - debian-stable
On Tuesday, December 12, 2017 at 3:14:17 PM UTC-5, haaber wrote: > Hello, > I cloned the out-of-the-box debian-8 and brought it to debian-9 with > apt-get distupgrade. I halted it. After reboot no way to get a shell, or > anything else (not by qvm-run within dom0 either). Is there a way to get > error messages somewhere? Thank you, Bernhard Hey, I'd also be interested to know more about getting detailed debugging info, maybe someone can comment on that... but things I do know that might be helpful: - You can get a debian 9 template by running: `sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-debian-9` (see docs here: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/debian/) - There are some vm logs available at `/var/log/qubes/` -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/8f564e82-1c67-430a-a68f-78e2321f7657%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
