Re: [qubes-users] Re: Unable to install qubes... (Intel GTX 970 problem)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2016-12-20 17:28, Rob wrote: > Hi Andrew, > > That is great, I am getting further. I now know to investigate the > Fedora text based installer (Anaconda). I would be happy to try and > report back on the Fedora bare metal install, as my laptop is new > and has nothing on it yet (hopefully Qubes soon). Do you happen to > know what version of Fedora is used for Qubes 3.2? - as I have > successfully installed Fedora 25 Workstation (which is the latest), > but I am guessing Qubes uses an older build. > Qubes 3.2 uses Fedora 23 in dom0. > Ideally, I would like to install Qubes-OS latest version (not sure > when v4 will be released). Pretty sure the reason why my laptop is > having installation issues, is that it has an Nvidia GPU and until > the installation is successful, I can then try to install the > Nvidia drivers onto Dom0. > No official ETA on Qubes 4.0 yet. Best guess is that the first release candidate might appear in Q1 2017. > The guide does not say much at all about the installation (unless > the GUI installation asks no questions and just works). All I am > saying is it looks like the installation can be hit or miss, so I > am surprised that there is not a guide for those more complex > installs, as opposed to the easiest install, where there are no > issues anyway. I will be happy to assist in getting a basic guide > written, once I can get Qubes installed. - This can then get > fleshed out with further input from others. > I see what you're saying. Yes, I think it's difficult to write a guide that covers the unusual hardware compatibility issues that people run into, since it can be hardware-specific. It would be great if you could help us improve the documentation in this regard. Thank you for your willingness to help! > Previously to this post, I was just Googling for clues to help me > install Qubes, however, I am now subscribed to this "Qubes-Users" > group and I can now see that there is a lot of activity. Although, > my initial comment regarding development was more regarding the > installation side of the OS. As it does (to me) appear to be > lacking, compared to other Distro's slick installation. I am > guessing this is more to do with the incorporation of strict > security and the inclusion of Xen. > I understand. That's probably true. - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJYWkBGAAoJENtN07w5UDAw9vgQAJab2enX6qdjjWRzyukyXAB4 KsEoDjK7JC2tdcZfUEyAgW00bsQctEPiq7WQBPmj6Z6Q3CstOjE7rUNJ9rW0ee2J qbv3NO07crbyaG/PoC+vdtpcn0Ph41sBw/I4evz5ajdKch5j0aMxNlvWmu+WPtqy 4dlhkmiTbP4pr6K4Ogzjz35rD9abMtBKhn+0f3WVJeTT9w2y5OeTY+a8nQqNDP0s iliNam1mgrWzgDIAe8VkuJtwigChFMhz6Z0r2nzq7fkoZZ5cpgfmdgYiQSMw5Eok RQx2W+d+7uoKccHY+8z6D/OMfXH9SYXNFQp7iXtm0lCf5PCunIclgSOV4akg1Su9 VQCN02GvrOHgOdQCp0iHc6h3leUUJAwZZxe7ponD9oWfNGSCy+npaKKJASJ4vcf9 fYBw3jb1rWA+cg2YRm2F+qHzER9DlQMtJMQMbgpDn7jchBCPBNb2IXrlAllcfpWd KoRBPp+Rg+PDdyA/ztdEc0WBTqV2hsoUGV5S4nAZwmrlAintn+T+Ph3j4Vxj+K5s wbhsxw+JEB+bZNFaKk9njWG+49WYtDvihgSNjUlMPVo8+ICOup5M86oo5vnm3Xh6 708bVIpwivN1FBMCAP3F0FQ+oAb5L5SO+CITjUrOWn6lK20MkbTE9tiVOMhnZHAf yCi0FvefoBinXfSvUQ6q =uZh4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/47b69a42-22db-9791-f649-1466548be521%40qubes-os.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Unable to install qubes... (Intel GTX 970 problem)
Hi Andrew, That is great, I am getting further. I now know to investigate the Fedora text based installer (Anaconda). I would be happy to try and report back on the Fedora bare metal install, as my laptop is new and has nothing on it yet (hopefully Qubes soon). Do you happen to know what version of Fedora is used for Qubes 3.2? - as I have successfully installed Fedora 25 Workstation (which is the latest), but I am guessing Qubes uses an older build. Ideally, I would like to install Qubes-OS latest version (not sure when v4 will be released). Pretty sure the reason why my laptop is having installation issues, is that it has an Nvidia GPU and until the installation is successful, I can then try to install the Nvidia drivers onto Dom0. The guide does not say much at all about the installation (unless the GUI installation asks no questions and just works). All I am saying is it looks like the installation can be hit or miss, so I am surprised that there is not a guide for those more complex installs, as opposed to the easiest install, where there are no issues anyway. I will be happy to assist in getting a basic guide written, once I can get Qubes installed. - This can then get fleshed out with further input from others. Previously to this post, I was just Googling for clues to help me install Qubes, however, I am now subscribed to this "Qubes-Users" group and I can now see that there is a lot of activity. Although, my initial comment regarding development was more regarding the installation side of the OS. As it does (to me) appear to be lacking, compared to other Distro's slick installation. I am guessing this is more to do with the incorporation of strict security and the inclusion of Xen. I will now look into disabling the LUKS section of the Fedora install. Thanks for your reply, Rob. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/f0de4fc7-1e1d-45a4-a170-2f78a8108fda%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Unable to install qubes... (Intel GTX 970 problem)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2016-12-15 04:00, r...@bluesentinel.net wrote: > Hi Tim, > > Drew White is correct. > > This is an installer bug. There are two separate Qubes installers, > the GUI one and the Text one. The problem is that the Text one > has different options and has a fixed error that cannot be > bypassed. The error is that LUKS encryption, either cannot be > disabled or there is no error checking and no way to enter the > encryption key. > > Until this menu installer bug is fixed, those of us (a lot) with > Nvidia cards cannot even install Qubes. > > If you have not installed Qubes via the Text menu, you will not > know what myself, Drew or Sergio are talking about. > Since the installer is largely derived from Fedora, has anyone tested whether this problem also exists on baremetal Fedora for the affected hardware? (Perhaps this has been addressed in another thread?) If it's actually an upstream (Fedora) problem, it should be reported to them. > The Qubes installation guide is next to useless, as the only line > in the "guide" is... Before proceeding with the installation, you > are encouraged to first read all the information on this page. > When you’re ready, boot your system from the installation source > and follow the on-screen instructions. The installer is very simple > and asks very few questions. (It’s actually easier to install > Qubes right now than most other Linux distributions!) > It seems to me that this part of the guide is clearly targeted at people using the GUI installer (the majority of users). So, while it might be true that the guide is "useless" for people who are forced to fall back on the text installer (insofar as it doesn't address that installer), it would be inaccurate to call it useless overall. > Also, it does not look like there is much active development with > Qubes, as this thread is over a year old and still no solution. > It does not logically follow from the fact that this particular issue has not been resolved that there has not been much active development with Qubes. Anyone who takes a glance at GitHub can see that the developers have actively been working on Qubes this entire time. Even those who only pay attention to new releases can see that there have been two releases since this thread was started. I understand that it can be frustrating to have a problem for a long period of time without finding a solution, but to say something that one knows is untrue as a way of venting that frustration is rather transparent. - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJYUpVkAAoJENtN07w5UDAw78YQAM8v0Ve8bu/H+ZrazcPZX6O/ g1tUL10Y37/sQlBn3FQOnTb+U7tu/vzqoMMrtyoAvExZg6f+f+AjSrqHFVBJba5R Osa6KmHPboAOKiaLfgs18sAs94zPYGJ6Wvl2LtXpWG5yCefeiKLTIs/MDZvBz/kA eSYf+8Nagm14Z/cvLF5uzPscB7IIP8mo1qDG0lSObcY2NzPNYTT1/O1vTNXxn2n9 ZRhnvIEzbqy6/i/gO6J1vKpQ2UVga//Zw/rW9vXJHYnJZzGa+49LROBX4Ydy3xI8 dZXhdGc5R3G/Tq0JEQCrWbY81NaeleZW11zCpa5kHz3CVifoefPmskj9CKyrMiXT jTJIIMnZO7jEKzvZYdfWbmz5cS3mJGdU9q428+asScwU8cfCAYlyW0TL5czjlGY/ G+yyqXtmE/aeAfDabAEoA5bwdP6iLoaf3NlpjzNVBoIsfmuLQ+LEJvONpQBHEpWJ UbC8SzD2Eevc0H3Zb8sX4Ir/HEQI1o7KJB8rHVJlk6Hx0winbYTc1Z7d4bsgYn7J jZGjG4om54ENrp7fI4nrrfhgcSkid5Vj2gEzUfnXt6+a8FN+QcLE7gy42I6dSUFZ VhAzt98Rak3O600uoHZWY8hn/+myEpXFm47MeCvMFsefyfwYZAJr4XoMikc/n2za OrKotnJboQv/Ts/aZzvK =1Pwa -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/708d2027-3a34-2f10-f8f1-715470a1f90d%40qubes-os.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Unable to install qubes... (Intel GTX 970 problem)
Hi Tim, Drew White is correct. This is an installer bug. There are two separate Qubes installers, the GUI one and the Text one. The problem is that the Text one has different options and has a fixed error that cannot be bypassed. The error is that LUKS encryption, either cannot be disabled or there is no error checking and no way to enter the encryption key. Until this menu installer bug is fixed, those of us (a lot) with Nvidia cards cannot even install Qubes. If you have not installed Qubes via the Text menu, you will not know what myself, Drew or Sergio are talking about. The Qubes installation guide is next to useless, as the only line in the "guide" is... Before proceeding with the installation, you are encouraged to first read all the information on this page. When you’re ready, boot your system from the installation source and follow the on-screen instructions. The installer is very simple and asks very few questions. (It’s actually easier to install Qubes right now than most other Linux distributions!) Also, it does not look like there is much active development with Qubes, as this thread is over a year old and still no solution. I will keep trying! - I'll post again if I find workaround to the bug. Thanks, Rob. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/ac941165-d47f-42df-9b43-21628ffd2ad3%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
