Re: [qubes-users] Re: disp-vm whonix torbrowser open tabs file?

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On Monday, May 4, 2020 at 11:32:43 AM UTC, unman wrote:
>
> On Sun, May 03, 2020 at 11:35:21PM -0700, list...@gmail.com  
> wrote: 
> > Actually, I guess it would be fine if there would be a procedure with 
> which 
> > I can close down the disposable browser without the disp-vm 
> automatically 
> > closing. 
> > Then there will, probably, be a session.json file made which I then can 
> > copy to another VM. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Monday, May 4, 2020 at 2:30:31 AM UTC, list...@gmail.com wrote: 
> > > 
> > > Hello qubes users, 
> > > 
> > > I have a whonix disposable tor browser whonix vm running with a load 
> of 
> > > tabs open, maybe 30 but I can't check the precise amount because the 
> tabs 
> > > don't scroll anymore. 
> > > The browser hangs. 
> > > As soon as I close the browser my tabs will be gone and I don't like 
> to 
> > > lose them. 
> > > I think there must be a session.json file but that seems to be created 
> > > only when the browser closes, and this will close the VM 
> automatically, so 
> > > even if a restore file with tabs in it is created, it will be gone 
> upon 
> > > closure of the browser. 
> > > I can access the file system from within dom0 and could copy any file 
> that 
> > > I need. 
> > > 
> > > Is there any place where whonix tor browser stores its *currently 
> open* 
> > > *tabs*? 
> > > 
> > > Thanks ahead. 
> > > 
>
> The convention here is not to top-post. 
> Please scroll to the bottom of the message before you start typing. Or 
> reply inline. 
> It only takes you seconds, makes it much easier to follow threads, and 
> cumulatively saves your fellow users hours. 
> Thanks. 
>
> In FF, I think that the data is in sessionstore-backups. Have a look 
> there. 
> You may do better asking on the Whonix lists, as I believe they 
> customize the TBB somewhat. 
>
> unman 
>

I have looked in 
~/.tb/tor-browser/Browser/TorBrowser/data/Browser/profile.default/ 
but there is no session-store, there is however a places.sqlite[-shm|-wal] 
could that be something? Then there is sessionCheckpoints.json...
$ qvm-run -p disp2622 'find /home/user/ -iname session-store*' 
also doesn't return anything so there probably won't be any.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: disp-vm whonix torbrowser open tabs file?

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On Monday, May 4, 2020 at 11:15:04 AM UTC, Mike Keehan wrote:
>
> On 5/4/20 7:35 AM, list...@gmail.com  wrote: 
> > Actually, I guess it would be fine if there would be a procedure with 
> which 
> > I can close down the disposable browser without the disp-vm 
> automatically 
> > closing. 
> > Then there will, probably, be a session.json file made which I then can 
> > copy to another VM. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Monday, May 4, 2020 at 2:30:31 AM UTC, list...@gmail.com wrote: 
> >> 
> >> Hello qubes users, 
> >> 
> >> I have a whonix disposable tor browser whonix vm running with a load of 
> >> tabs open, maybe 30 but I can't check the precise amount because the 
> tabs 
> >> don't scroll anymore. 
> >> The browser hangs. 
> >> As soon as I close the browser my tabs will be gone and I don't like to 
> >> lose them. 
> >> I think there must be a session.json file but that seems to be created 
> >> only when the browser closes, and this will close the VM automatically, 
> so 
> >> even if a restore file with tabs in it is created, it will be gone upon 
> >> closure of the browser. 
> >> I can access the file system from within dom0 and could copy any file 
> that 
> >> I need. 
> >> 
> >> Is there any place where whonix tor browser stores its *currently open* 
> >> *tabs*? 
> >> 
> >> Thanks ahead. 
> >> 
> > 
>
> Start a terminal in a dispVM, then use the command line to start the 
> browser.  You can stop and start the browser whenever you want. 
>
> The dispVM will stay running until you close the terminal. 
>
> Mike. 
>

Maybe a silly question, how do I start a terminal in the VM from within 
dom0?

Thanks

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Re: [EXT] Re: [qubes-users] Re: disp-vm whonix torbrowser open tabs file?

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On Monday, May 4, 2020 at 7:57:14 PM UTC, Ulrich Windl wrote:
>
> >>> Catacombs > schrieb am 04.05.2020 um 
> 14:18 in Nachricht 
> <24740_1588594718_5EB0081D_24740_209_1_e4ab08ee-0ed4-4089-9427-86850a35c9ea@goog
>  
>
> egroups.com>: 
>
> > ”l have a whonix disposable tor browser whonix vm running with a load of 
> > tabs open, maybe 30 but I can't check the precise amount because the 
> tabs 
> > don't scroll anymore. “ 
> > 
> > 
> > Consider creating a clone of Whonix Template QUBE,  make all your Tabs 
> > Favorites.  Used to be an option in Firefox to open all favorites.  Or 
> there 
>
> > is an option of what to start when starting Firefox.   
> > Save this template clone for the specific use of having this group of 
> Tabs a 
>
> > a available all at once. 
> > 
> > ”The browser hangs.” Perhaps increase the memory allocation for the QUBE 
> > that has all the Tabs 
> > 
> > “As soon as I close the browser my tabs will be gone and I don't like to 
> > lose them. 
> > I think there must be a session.json file but that seems to be created 
> only 
>
> > when the browser closes, and this will close the VM automatically, so 
> even 
> if 
> > a restore file with tabs in it is created, it will be gone upon closure 
> of 
> > the browser. 
> > I can access the file system from within dom0 and could copy any file 
> that I 
>
> > need. 
> > 
> > Is there any place where whonix tor browser stores its currently open 
> tabs? 
>
>
> I think (at least for Firefox) there must be a place where open tabs are 
> stored, because when the machine crashes, Firefox can recover the last 
> session 
> automatically. The other idea I had is the history: Shouldn't all tabs be 
> present in the history, too? OK, if the browser is hanging, it might not 
> help. 
> Did you try to open a terminal for the same DVM (via cubes manager on the 
> VM)? 
> If so, you could try to find out what's going on with the browser (like: 
> "free", "top", etc.). My guess is lack of memory. 
>
> > 
> > Thanks ahead. 
> > 
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$ qvm-run -p disp2622 'free' 
gives me  at least twice as much memory available as there is in use, so 
that must not be the problem.

$ qvm-run -p disp2622 'top' 
gives: 
TERM environment variable not set.

How do I 'open' a terminal in the disp VM?

Thanks

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: disp-vm whonix torbrowser open tabs file?

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On Monday, May 4, 2020 at 12:18:35 PM UTC, Catacombs wrote:
>
>
> ”l have a whonix disposable tor browser whonix vm running with a load of 
> tabs open, maybe 30 but I can't check the precise amount because the tabs 
> don't scroll anymore. “ 
>
>
> Consider creating a clone of Whonix Template QUBE,  make all your Tabs 
> Favorites.  Used to be an option in Firefox to open all favorites.  Or 
> there is an option of what to start when starting Firefox.   
> Save this template clone for the specific use of having this group of Tabs 
> a a available all at once. 
>
> ”The browser hangs.” Perhaps increase the memory allocation for the QUBE 
> that has all the Tabs 
>
> “As soon as I close the browser my tabs will be gone and I don't like to 
> lose them. 
> I think there must be a session.json file but that seems to be created 
> only when the browser closes, and this will close the VM automatically, so 
> even if a restore file with tabs in it is created, it will be gone upon 
> closure of the browser. 
> I can access the file system from within dom0 and could copy any file that 
> I need. 
>
> Is there any place where whonix tor browser stores its currently open 
> tabs? 
>
> Thanks ahead.


I don't use these tabs frequently but would like to keep them in a folder 
in the bookmarks.
I can not do anything with the browser, the tabs lighten up when I hover 
over them, also the menu, but clicking the mouse doesn't do anything, so 
selecting tabs and make them favorites won't work. 
I also increased the Max Memory from 4 to 5 GB but that didn't work either. 
I was surprised I could do that dynamically by the way.
Anyway, thanks for your advise.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: disp-vm whonix torbrowser open tabs file?

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On Monday, May 4, 2020 at 11:32:43 AM UTC, unman wrote:
>
> On Sun, May 03, 2020 at 11:35:21PM -0700, list...@gmail.com  
> wrote: 
> > Actually, I guess it would be fine if there would be a procedure with 
> which 
> > I can close down the disposable browser without the disp-vm 
> automatically 
> > closing. 
> > Then there will, probably, be a session.json file made which I then can 
> > copy to another VM. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Monday, May 4, 2020 at 2:30:31 AM UTC, list...@gmail.com wrote: 
> > > 
> > > Hello qubes users, 
> > > 
> > > I have a whonix disposable tor browser whonix vm running with a load 
> of 
> > > tabs open, maybe 30 but I can't check the precise amount because the 
> tabs 
> > > don't scroll anymore. 
> > > The browser hangs. 
> > > As soon as I close the browser my tabs will be gone and I don't like 
> to 
> > > lose them. 
> > > I think there must be a session.json file but that seems to be created 
> > > only when the browser closes, and this will close the VM 
> automatically, so 
> > > even if a restore file with tabs in it is created, it will be gone 
> upon 
> > > closure of the browser. 
> > > I can access the file system from within dom0 and could copy any file 
> that 
> > > I need. 
> > > 
> > > Is there any place where whonix tor browser stores its *currently 
> open* 
> > > *tabs*? 
> > > 
> > > Thanks ahead. 
> > > 
>
> The convention here is not to top-post. 
> Please scroll to the bottom of the message before you start typing. Or 
> reply inline. 
> It only takes you seconds, makes it much easier to follow threads, and 
> cumulatively saves your fellow users hours. 
> Thanks. 
>
> In FF, I think that the data is in sessionstore-backups. Have a look 
> there. 
> You may do better asking on the Whonix lists, as I believe they 
> customize the TBB somewhat. 
>
> unman 
>

Yes you are right, sorry, it's been a long time since I posted here, but, 
in my defense, by default the cursor is put at the top, not the bottom of 
the screen. :) 

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Antw: [EXT] Re: [qubes-users] Re: disp-vm whonix torbrowser open tabs file?

2020-05-04 Thread Ulrich Windl
>>> Catacombs  schrieb am 04.05.2020 um 14:18 in Nachricht
<24740_1588594718_5EB0081D_24740_209_1_e4ab08ee-0ed4-4089-9427-86850a35c9ea@goog
egroups.com>:

> ”l have a whonix disposable tor browser whonix vm running with a load of 
> tabs open, maybe 30 but I can't check the precise amount because the tabs 
> don't scroll anymore. “
> 
> 
> Consider creating a clone of Whonix Template QUBE,  make all your Tabs 
> Favorites.  Used to be an option in Firefox to open all favorites.  Or there

> is an option of what to start when starting Firefox.  
> Save this template clone for the specific use of having this group of Tabs a

> a available all at once. 
> 
> ”The browser hangs.” Perhaps increase the memory allocation for the QUBE 
> that has all the Tabs
> 
> “As soon as I close the browser my tabs will be gone and I don't like to 
> lose them. 
> I think there must be a session.json file but that seems to be created only

> when the browser closes, and this will close the VM automatically, so even
if 
> a restore file with tabs in it is created, it will be gone upon closure of 
> the browser.
> I can access the file system from within dom0 and could copy any file that I

> need.
> 
> Is there any place where whonix tor browser stores its currently open tabs?


I think (at least for Firefox) there must be a place where open tabs are
stored, because when the machine crashes, Firefox can recover the last session
automatically. The other idea I had is the history: Shouldn't all tabs be
present in the history, too? OK, if the browser is hanging, it might not help.
Did you try to open a terminal for the same DVM (via cubes manager on the VM)?
If so, you could try to find out what's going on with the browser (like:
"free", "top", etc.). My guess is lack of memory.

> 
> Thanks ahead.
> 
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Re: [qubes-users] Re: disp-vm whonix torbrowser open tabs file?

2020-05-04 Thread Catacombs

”l have a whonix disposable tor browser whonix vm running with a load of tabs 
open, maybe 30 but I can't check the precise amount because the tabs don't 
scroll anymore. “


Consider creating a clone of Whonix Template QUBE,  make all your Tabs 
Favorites.  Used to be an option in Firefox to open all favorites.  Or there is 
an option of what to start when starting Firefox.  
Save this template clone for the specific use of having this group of Tabs a a 
available all at once. 

”The browser hangs.” Perhaps increase the memory allocation for the QUBE that 
has all the Tabs

“As soon as I close the browser my tabs will be gone and I don't like to lose 
them. 
I think there must be a session.json file but that seems to be created only 
when the browser closes, and this will close the VM automatically, so even if a 
restore file with tabs in it is created, it will be gone upon closure of the 
browser.
I can access the file system from within dom0 and could copy any file that I 
need.

Is there any place where whonix tor browser stores its currently open tabs? 

Thanks ahead.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: disp-vm whonix torbrowser open tabs file?

2020-05-04 Thread unman
On Mon, May 04, 2020 at 12:32:39PM +0100, unman wrote:
> On Sun, May 03, 2020 at 11:35:21PM -0700, list.w...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Actually, I guess it would be fine if there would be a procedure with which 
> > I can close down the disposable browser without the disp-vm automatically 
> > closing.
> > Then there will, probably, be a session.json file made which I then can 
> > copy to another VM.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Monday, May 4, 2020 at 2:30:31 AM UTC, list...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello qubes users, 
> > >
> > > I have a whonix disposable tor browser whonix vm running with a load of 
> > > tabs open, maybe 30 but I can't check the precise amount because the tabs 
> > > don't scroll anymore. 
> > > The browser hangs.
> > > As soon as I close the browser my tabs will be gone and I don't like to 
> > > lose them. 
> > > I think there must be a session.json file but that seems to be created 
> > > only when the browser closes, and this will close the VM automatically, 
> > > so 
> > > even if a restore file with tabs in it is created, it will be gone upon 
> > > closure of the browser.
> > > I can access the file system from within dom0 and could copy any file 
> > > that 
> > > I need.
> > >
> > > Is there any place where whonix tor browser stores its *currently open* 
> > > *tabs*? 
> > >
> > > Thanks ahead.
> > >
> 
> The convention here is not to top-post.
> Please scroll to the bottom of the message before you start typing. Or
> reply inline.
> It only takes you seconds, makes it much easier to follow threads, and
> cumulatively saves your fellow users hours.
> Thanks.
> 
> In FF, I think that the data is in sessionstore-backups. Have a look
> there.
> You may do better asking on the Whonix lists, as I believe they
> customize the TBB somewhat.
> 
> unman
> 

Actually, since TBB wont remember history or site data, I dont think
that data is stored anywhere. (Unless i misremember, the Update reloads
open tabs, not by reading from existing stored data, but by storing that
data itself.)

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: disp-vm whonix torbrowser open tabs file?

2020-05-04 Thread unman
On Sun, May 03, 2020 at 11:35:21PM -0700, list.w...@gmail.com wrote:
> Actually, I guess it would be fine if there would be a procedure with which 
> I can close down the disposable browser without the disp-vm automatically 
> closing.
> Then there will, probably, be a session.json file made which I then can 
> copy to another VM.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, May 4, 2020 at 2:30:31 AM UTC, list...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Hello qubes users, 
> >
> > I have a whonix disposable tor browser whonix vm running with a load of 
> > tabs open, maybe 30 but I can't check the precise amount because the tabs 
> > don't scroll anymore. 
> > The browser hangs.
> > As soon as I close the browser my tabs will be gone and I don't like to 
> > lose them. 
> > I think there must be a session.json file but that seems to be created 
> > only when the browser closes, and this will close the VM automatically, so 
> > even if a restore file with tabs in it is created, it will be gone upon 
> > closure of the browser.
> > I can access the file system from within dom0 and could copy any file that 
> > I need.
> >
> > Is there any place where whonix tor browser stores its *currently open* 
> > *tabs*? 
> >
> > Thanks ahead.
> >

The convention here is not to top-post.
Please scroll to the bottom of the message before you start typing. Or
reply inline.
It only takes you seconds, makes it much easier to follow threads, and
cumulatively saves your fellow users hours.
Thanks.

In FF, I think that the data is in sessionstore-backups. Have a look
there.
You may do better asking on the Whonix lists, as I believe they
customize the TBB somewhat.

unman

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: disp-vm whonix torbrowser open tabs file?

2020-05-04 Thread Mike Keehan

On 5/4/20 7:35 AM, list.w...@gmail.com wrote:

Actually, I guess it would be fine if there would be a procedure with which
I can close down the disposable browser without the disp-vm automatically
closing.
Then there will, probably, be a session.json file made which I then can
copy to another VM.




On Monday, May 4, 2020 at 2:30:31 AM UTC, list...@gmail.com wrote:


Hello qubes users,

I have a whonix disposable tor browser whonix vm running with a load of
tabs open, maybe 30 but I can't check the precise amount because the tabs
don't scroll anymore.
The browser hangs.
As soon as I close the browser my tabs will be gone and I don't like to
lose them.
I think there must be a session.json file but that seems to be created
only when the browser closes, and this will close the VM automatically, so
even if a restore file with tabs in it is created, it will be gone upon
closure of the browser.
I can access the file system from within dom0 and could copy any file that
I need.

Is there any place where whonix tor browser stores its *currently open*
*tabs*?

Thanks ahead.





Start a terminal in a dispVM, then use the command line to start the 
browser.  You can stop and start the browser whenever you want.


The dispVM will stay running until you close the terminal.

Mike.

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[qubes-users] Re: disp-vm whonix torbrowser open tabs file?

2020-05-03 Thread list . wget
Actually, I guess it would be fine if there would be a procedure with which 
I can close down the disposable browser without the disp-vm automatically 
closing.
Then there will, probably, be a session.json file made which I then can 
copy to another VM.




On Monday, May 4, 2020 at 2:30:31 AM UTC, list...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hello qubes users, 
>
> I have a whonix disposable tor browser whonix vm running with a load of 
> tabs open, maybe 30 but I can't check the precise amount because the tabs 
> don't scroll anymore. 
> The browser hangs.
> As soon as I close the browser my tabs will be gone and I don't like to 
> lose them. 
> I think there must be a session.json file but that seems to be created 
> only when the browser closes, and this will close the VM automatically, so 
> even if a restore file with tabs in it is created, it will be gone upon 
> closure of the browser.
> I can access the file system from within dom0 and could copy any file that 
> I need.
>
> Is there any place where whonix tor browser stores its *currently open* 
> *tabs*? 
>
> Thanks ahead.
>

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