Re: [qubes-users] Unable to update anything on new installation

2019-06-07 Thread brendan . hoar
On Friday, June 7, 2019 at 8:08:53 PM UTC-4, atrain...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, June 7, 2019 at 8:04:22 PM UTC-4, awokd wrote:
> > atra...@gmail.com wrote on 6/7/19 11:01 PM:
> > > I'm really really stuck and I can't go forward no matter what I do.  My 
> > > goal is to create qubes to replace my current Linux OS as my every day 
> > > OS, including watching DVD's, Netflix, etc.  However, I've run into a 
> > > huge amount of problems.
> > > 
> > > Right now I'm typing to you via the disposable VM.  The personal one 
> > > works fine too.  I installed a VPN on my sys-net just fine.  Tor refuses 
> > > to connect, just gets stuck at 85%, so I installed my VPN, now gets stuck 
> > > at 10% with bridges.
> > 
> > Make sure your clock is set accurately. If Tor alone normally works on 
> > other devices at your location, try turning off the VPN and bridge 
> > temporarily, then let it sit at 85% for an hour to see if it eventually 
> > goes through. Tor over VPN without a bridge might also work. Also check 
> > /var/log/tor/log in sys-whonix, but seems like you might be already.
> > 
> > > When I tried to follow the guide book for how to install a multimedia VM, 
> > > Qubes was telling me it was unable to find xclip, either under Fedora or 
> > > debian.  In fact, the guide really needs to explain that "qvm-run" 
> > > command needs to be ran inside dom0.  I spent an hour and a half trying 
> > > to get that command to work inside a new VM that I created realizing what 
> > > it did afterwards.  >.<  Anyway, moving on...
> > > 
> > > Realizing I should probably update my VM's, I tried updating my VM's and 
> > > I keep getting the same types of errors.  When I try to do any kind of 
> > > 'sudo qubes-dom0-update' commands, I get a 'Cannot retrieve repository 
> > > metadata (repomd.mxl) for repository:fedora.ts path and try again', no 
> > > matter how hard I try to make it work.
> > > 
> > > Same types of errors when trying to update the debian-9 and fedora-29 
> > > templateVM's.  I need help please.  I thought my internet was being 
> > > blocked so I slapped on my VPN but I still get the same problem.  It's a 
> > > fresh install of Qubes.
> > > 
> > 
> > When you installed Whonix as part of Qubes, you probably checked the box 
> > to update over Tor. If Tor's unavailable, you won't be able to update 
> > dom0 or templates. I don't think updates will help with the issues you 
> > mentioned, but it is possible to change them back to not using Tor. In 
> > dom0, you'd set "qubes-prefs updatevm sys-net" and edit 
> > /etc/qubes-rpc/policy/qubes.UpdatesProxy by commenting out the 
> > TemplateVM line with sys-whonix, which allows it to default to the one 
> > below with sys-net.
> 
> Yes, my intention was to do everything over Tor but since I could not get Tor 
> working, I think this is where the problem is arising.  I'll try your fix 
> once my update is finished.  I'm updating Whonix using the firewall.  
> Probably not the safest method.

awokd is right. it's usually the clock + timezone in the whonix VMs that is the 
problem. i believe whonix is configured to assume you set the local hardware 
clock to UTC. If the time/zone is significantly off expectations, it'll fail to 
connect.  i think I had to sudo date --set= in both of 
the templates and possibly also in the non-disposable whonix VMs to get it to 
work, after first ensuring the same in dom0.

B

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Re: [qubes-users] Unable to update anything on new installation

2019-06-07 Thread atrainonline
On Friday, June 7, 2019 at 8:04:22 PM UTC-4, awokd wrote:
> atr...@gmail.com wrote on 6/7/19 11:01 PM:
> > I'm really really stuck and I can't go forward no matter what I do.  My 
> > goal is to create qubes to replace my current Linux OS as my every day OS, 
> > including watching DVD's, Netflix, etc.  However, I've run into a huge 
> > amount of problems.
> > 
> > Right now I'm typing to you via the disposable VM.  The personal one works 
> > fine too.  I installed a VPN on my sys-net just fine.  Tor refuses to 
> > connect, just gets stuck at 85%, so I installed my VPN, now gets stuck at 
> > 10% with bridges.
> 
> Make sure your clock is set accurately. If Tor alone normally works on 
> other devices at your location, try turning off the VPN and bridge 
> temporarily, then let it sit at 85% for an hour to see if it eventually 
> goes through. Tor over VPN without a bridge might also work. Also check 
> /var/log/tor/log in sys-whonix, but seems like you might be already.
> 
> > When I tried to follow the guide book for how to install a multimedia VM, 
> > Qubes was telling me it was unable to find xclip, either under Fedora or 
> > debian.  In fact, the guide really needs to explain that "qvm-run" command 
> > needs to be ran inside dom0.  I spent an hour and a half trying to get that 
> > command to work inside a new VM that I created realizing what it did 
> > afterwards.  >.<  Anyway, moving on...
> > 
> > Realizing I should probably update my VM's, I tried updating my VM's and I 
> > keep getting the same types of errors.  When I try to do any kind of 'sudo 
> > qubes-dom0-update' commands, I get a 'Cannot retrieve repository metadata 
> > (repomd.mxl) for repository:fedora.ts path and try again', no matter how 
> > hard I try to make it work.
> > 
> > Same types of errors when trying to update the debian-9 and fedora-29 
> > templateVM's.  I need help please.  I thought my internet was being blocked 
> > so I slapped on my VPN but I still get the same problem.  It's a fresh 
> > install of Qubes.
> > 
> 
> When you installed Whonix as part of Qubes, you probably checked the box 
> to update over Tor. If Tor's unavailable, you won't be able to update 
> dom0 or templates. I don't think updates will help with the issues you 
> mentioned, but it is possible to change them back to not using Tor. In 
> dom0, you'd set "qubes-prefs updatevm sys-net" and edit 
> /etc/qubes-rpc/policy/qubes.UpdatesProxy by commenting out the 
> TemplateVM line with sys-whonix, which allows it to default to the one 
> below with sys-net.

Question... this may sound stupid, but in dom0, how do I get access to 
/etc/qubes-rpc/policy/qubes.UpdatesProxy?

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Re: [qubes-users] Unable to update anything on new installation

2019-06-07 Thread atrainonline
On Friday, June 7, 2019 at 8:04:22 PM UTC-4, awokd wrote:
> atra.@gmail.com wrote on 6/7/19 11:01 PM:
> > I'm really really stuck and I can't go forward no matter what I do.  My 
> > goal is to create qubes to replace my current Linux OS as my every day OS, 
> > including watching DVD's, Netflix, etc.  However, I've run into a huge 
> > amount of problems.
> > 
> > Right now I'm typing to you via the disposable VM.  The personal one works 
> > fine too.  I installed a VPN on my sys-net just fine.  Tor refuses to 
> > connect, just gets stuck at 85%, so I installed my VPN, now gets stuck at 
> > 10% with bridges.
> 
> Make sure your clock is set accurately. If Tor alone normally works on 
> other devices at your location, try turning off the VPN and bridge 
> temporarily, then let it sit at 85% for an hour to see if it eventually 
> goes through. Tor over VPN without a bridge might also work. Also check 
> /var/log/tor/log in sys-whonix, but seems like you might be already.
> 
> > When I tried to follow the guide book for how to install a multimedia VM, 
> > Qubes was telling me it was unable to find xclip, either under Fedora or 
> > debian.  In fact, the guide really needs to explain that "qvm-run" command 
> > needs to be ran inside dom0.  I spent an hour and a half trying to get that 
> > command to work inside a new VM that I created realizing what it did 
> > afterwards.  >.<  Anyway, moving on...
> > 
> > Realizing I should probably update my VM's, I tried updating my VM's and I 
> > keep getting the same types of errors.  When I try to do any kind of 'sudo 
> > qubes-dom0-update' commands, I get a 'Cannot retrieve repository metadata 
> > (repomd.mxl) for repository:fedora.ts path and try again', no matter how 
> > hard I try to make it work.
> > 
> > Same types of errors when trying to update the debian-9 and fedora-29 
> > templateVM's.  I need help please.  I thought my internet was being blocked 
> > so I slapped on my VPN but I still get the same problem.  It's a fresh 
> > install of Qubes.
> > 
> 
> When you installed Whonix as part of Qubes, you probably checked the box 
> to update over Tor. If Tor's unavailable, you won't be able to update 
> dom0 or templates. I don't think updates will help with the issues you 
> mentioned, but it is possible to change them back to not using Tor. In 
> dom0, you'd set "qubes-prefs updatevm sys-net" and edit 
> /etc/qubes-rpc/policy/qubes.UpdatesProxy by commenting out the 
> TemplateVM line with sys-whonix, which allows it to default to the one 
> below with sys-net.

Yes, my intention was to do everything over Tor but since I could not get Tor 
working, I think this is where the problem is arising.  I'll try your fix once 
my update is finished.  I'm updating Whonix using the firewall.  Probably not 
the safest method.

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Re: [qubes-users] Unable to update anything on new installation

2019-06-07 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users

atrainonl...@gmail.com wrote on 6/7/19 11:01 PM:

I'm really really stuck and I can't go forward no matter what I do.  My goal is 
to create qubes to replace my current Linux OS as my every day OS, including 
watching DVD's, Netflix, etc.  However, I've run into a huge amount of problems.

Right now I'm typing to you via the disposable VM.  The personal one works fine 
too.  I installed a VPN on my sys-net just fine.  Tor refuses to connect, just 
gets stuck at 85%, so I installed my VPN, now gets stuck at 10% with bridges.


Make sure your clock is set accurately. If Tor alone normally works on 
other devices at your location, try turning off the VPN and bridge 
temporarily, then let it sit at 85% for an hour to see if it eventually 
goes through. Tor over VPN without a bridge might also work. Also check 
/var/log/tor/log in sys-whonix, but seems like you might be already.



When I tried to follow the guide book for how to install a multimedia VM, Qubes was telling me 
it was unable to find xclip, either under Fedora or debian.  In fact, the guide really needs to 
explain that "qvm-run" command needs to be ran inside dom0.  I spent an hour and a 
half trying to get that command to work inside a new VM that I created realizing what it did 
afterwards.  >.<  Anyway, moving on...

Realizing I should probably update my VM's, I tried updating my VM's and I keep 
getting the same types of errors.  When I try to do any kind of 'sudo 
qubes-dom0-update' commands, I get a 'Cannot retrieve repository metadata 
(repomd.mxl) for repository:fedora.ts path and try again', no matter how hard I 
try to make it work.

Same types of errors when trying to update the debian-9 and fedora-29 
templateVM's.  I need help please.  I thought my internet was being blocked so 
I slapped on my VPN but I still get the same problem.  It's a fresh install of 
Qubes.



When you installed Whonix as part of Qubes, you probably checked the box 
to update over Tor. If Tor's unavailable, you won't be able to update 
dom0 or templates. I don't think updates will help with the issues you 
mentioned, but it is possible to change them back to not using Tor. In 
dom0, you'd set "qubes-prefs updatevm sys-net" and edit 
/etc/qubes-rpc/policy/qubes.UpdatesProxy by commenting out the 
TemplateVM line with sys-whonix, which allows it to default to the one 
below with sys-net.


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[qubes-users] Unable to update anything on new installation

2019-06-07 Thread atrainonline
I'm really really stuck and I can't go forward no matter what I do.  My goal is 
to create qubes to replace my current Linux OS as my every day OS, including 
watching DVD's, Netflix, etc.  However, I've run into a huge amount of problems.

Right now I'm typing to you via the disposable VM.  The personal one works fine 
too.  I installed a VPN on my sys-net just fine.  Tor refuses to connect, just 
gets stuck at 85%, so I installed my VPN, now gets stuck at 10% with bridges.

When I tried to follow the guide book for how to install a multimedia VM, Qubes 
was telling me it was unable to find xclip, either under Fedora or debian.  In 
fact, the guide really needs to explain that "qvm-run" command needs to be ran 
inside dom0.  I spent an hour and a half trying to get that command to work 
inside a new VM that I created realizing what it did afterwards.  >.<  Anyway, 
moving on...

Realizing I should probably update my VM's, I tried updating my VM's and I keep 
getting the same types of errors.  When I try to do any kind of 'sudo 
qubes-dom0-update' commands, I get a 'Cannot retrieve repository metadata 
(repomd.mxl) for repository:fedora.ts path and try again', no matter how hard I 
try to make it work.

Same types of errors when trying to update the debian-9 and fedora-29 
templateVM's.  I need help please.  I thought my internet was being blocked so 
I slapped on my VPN but I still get the same problem.  It's a fresh install of 
Qubes.  

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