Re: [qubes-users] build usb-vm and net-vm using openbsd?

2017-11-09 Thread blacklight
On Thursday, 9 November 2017 04:30:23 UTC, Jean-Philippe Ouellet  wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 3:37 PM, ludwig jaffe  wrote:
> > Hi, I saw that the linux kernel has some flaws 
> > (http://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2017/11/06/8) in the usb stack, 
> > so I am
> > thinking about security against common errors, I would suggest to use
> > OpenBSD as USB-VM. Maybe, as Net-VM one could use open-bsd.
> > But how to integrate open-bsd with qubes and the virtual network inside 
> > qubes?
> >
> > Has anyone tried such?
> 
> Yes, I looked into this some time last year and plan to return to work
> on it one day. I was an OpenBSD person before I came to Qubes.
> 
> Several things need to happen first before any meaningful Qubes
> integration can be done though. First would be a vchan driver.
> 
> Don't expect anything soon... unless perhaps you're willing to fund such work?

would a specialised unikernel for usb operations make sense for this?

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Re: [qubes-users] build usb-vm and net-vm using openbsd?

2017-11-08 Thread Jean-Philippe Ouellet
On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 3:37 PM, ludwig jaffe  wrote:
> Hi, I saw that the linux kernel has some flaws 
> (http://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2017/11/06/8) in the usb stack, 
> so I am
> thinking about security against common errors, I would suggest to use
> OpenBSD as USB-VM. Maybe, as Net-VM one could use open-bsd.
> But how to integrate open-bsd with qubes and the virtual network inside qubes?
>
> Has anyone tried such?

Yes, I looked into this some time last year and plan to return to work
on it one day. I was an OpenBSD person before I came to Qubes.

Several things need to happen first before any meaningful Qubes
integration can be done though. First would be a vchan driver.

Don't expect anything soon... unless perhaps you're willing to fund such work?

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[qubes-users] build usb-vm and net-vm using openbsd?

2017-11-08 Thread ludwig jaffe
Hi, I saw that the linux kernel has some flaws 
(http://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2017/11/06/8) in the usb stack, so 
I am
thinking about security against common errors, I would suggest to use
OpenBSD as USB-VM. Maybe, as Net-VM one could use open-bsd.
But how to integrate open-bsd with qubes and the virtual network inside qubes?

Has anyone tried such?

Cheers

Ludwig

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