Re: [qubes-users] debian-9 template

2018-04-27 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
On Fri, April 27, 2018 12:46 pm, higginsonj...@gmail.com wrote:
> Have used Qubes3 for a couple of years and now acquired a new PC where
> I've done a complete fresh install of QUBES 4.

> WHEN I LOOK AT THE DEBIAN-9 template - there is no software at all.
>
>
> ALSO the DEBIAN-9 template and any VM that I generate using it, only
> offers  QUBE-SETTINGS - i.e. no TERMINAL, BROWSER or FILEs.

Go to Qube Settings, then Applications tab, then add the ones you want. It
doesn't have a file manager by default, so you'll want to apt install one.

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[qubes-users] debian-9 template

2018-04-27 Thread higginsonjim2
Have used Qubes3 for a couple of years and now acquired a new PC where I've 
done a complete fresh install of QUBES 4.

(Copied all my data off old system - ready for adding to new system when all 
set up)

Base system seems fine - standard VM's etc - but everything by default based on 
Fedora - albeit Debian and Fedora templates offered by default.

Fedora template has lots of assorted software - that I could use to add to 
various Vm's as required - a standard new VM using Fedora template offers 
FILES, TERMINAL, FIREFOX and QUBES SETTINGS - basically core features to get me 
started.

WHEN I LOOK AT THE DEBIAN-9 template - there is no software at all.

ALSO the DEBIAN-9 template and any VM that I generate using it, only offers  
QUBE-SETTINGS - i.e. no TERMINAL, BROWSER or FILEs.


CAN ANYONE advise on what I should do next - assume if I get access to 
terminal, I can install all software I want - but assumed there would be a 
standard stock of software/base features available in the Debian-9 template.

(Am sure this was the case with QUBES3)

Grateful for advice - my preference is to use Debian (as per last 2 years 
within QUBES and many years before that using DEBIAN distro) rather than Fedora.


 

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Re: [qubes-users] debian-9 template for sys-firewall in 3.2

2018-03-23 Thread cooloutac
On Friday, March 23, 2018 at 4:25:12 PM UTC-4, cooloutac wrote:
> On Friday, March 23, 2018 at 12:13:45 PM UTC-4, js...@riseup.net wrote:
> > cooloutac:
> > > debian-9 was never in the 3.2 repos.  Its stated as such in the docs.   
> > > They also state they will support 3.2 for a year after 4.0 has its final 
> > > release.  But I guess the avg user will have to know how to update their 
> > > debian-9.  Or just abandon debian.   You can't use it as a sys-firewall 
> > > afterwards and I've noticed some other anomalies.
> > 
> > I upgraded my template to debian-9 and it seems to work for me as
> > sys-firewall. Or at least I tested it with allow all except and deny all
> > except, with various websites white/blacklisted, and it seemed to work
> > as expected (only able to access whitelisted sites or not able to access
> > blacklisted sites in firefox).
> > 
> > I didn't do a more thorough test though. Is there something I'm missing?
> > 
> > -Jackie
> 
> yes you can't update dom0 with it.

Just realized you already replied to me about this same subject in the other 
thread.   Those missing directories you instructed people to create in the 
other thread.  IS the issue as to why you can't update dom0.  the bug Unman 
said he though was already fixed.  You already got your fkn answer 4 hours ago. 
 And the answer you missed was already in this thread if you bothered to read 
it.  riseup.net sucks...lol

I also described a weird issue where after installing gparted in the udpated 
debian 9 template I had to run it as root.  Wouldn't launch as non root.  not 
sure whats going on there.  So many little things like this should I even trust 
using the upgraded 8 to debian-9?  I switched everything i once trusted with a 
debian template to fedora...  and don't use my cloned debian template for 
sys-usb anymore either.

Not sure i'll be upgrading qubes to 4.0 in the future.  Just gonna go buy a 
cheap dedicated banking pc off the shelf and use the airforce tens boot disk 
only.  And enjoy life and use a windows machine for everything else lol.

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Re: [qubes-users] debian-9 template for sys-firewall in 3.2

2018-03-23 Thread cooloutac
On Friday, March 23, 2018 at 12:13:45 PM UTC-4, js...@riseup.net wrote:
> cooloutac:
> > debian-9 was never in the 3.2 repos.  Its stated as such in the docs.   
> > They also state they will support 3.2 for a year after 4.0 has its final 
> > release.  But I guess the avg user will have to know how to update their 
> > debian-9.  Or just abandon debian.   You can't use it as a sys-firewall 
> > afterwards and I've noticed some other anomalies.
> 
> I upgraded my template to debian-9 and it seems to work for me as
> sys-firewall. Or at least I tested it with allow all except and deny all
> except, with various websites white/blacklisted, and it seemed to work
> as expected (only able to access whitelisted sites or not able to access
> blacklisted sites in firefox).
> 
> I didn't do a more thorough test though. Is there something I'm missing?
> 
> -Jackie

yes you can't update dom0 with it.

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Re: [qubes-users] debian-9 template for sys-firewall in 3.2

2018-03-23 Thread js...@riseup.net
cooloutac:
> debian-9 was never in the 3.2 repos.  Its stated as such in the docs.   They 
> also state they will support 3.2 for a year after 4.0 has its final release.  
> But I guess the avg user will have to know how to update their debian-9.  Or 
> just abandon debian.   You can't use it as a sys-firewall afterwards and I've 
> noticed some other anomalies.

I upgraded my template to debian-9 and it seems to work for me as
sys-firewall. Or at least I tested it with allow all except and deny all
except, with various websites white/blacklisted, and it seemed to work
as expected (only able to access whitelisted sites or not able to access
blacklisted sites in firefox).

I didn't do a more thorough test though. Is there something I'm missing?

-Jackie

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