Re: [qubes-users] minimum size for a qube image

2018-04-20 Thread Jan Hustak
On 04/21/2018 03:44 AM, Manuel Amador (Rudd-O) wrote: On 2018-04-16 20:50, Jan Hustak wrote: Hello, I'm also open to discussing the basic concept: is it worth trying to keep, for example, Firefox and GIMP in separate qubes, or should I just relax and use one fat TemplateVM with the union of all

Re: [qubes-users] minimum size for a qube image

2018-04-20 Thread Jan Hustak
On 04/19/2018 10:00 AM, awokd wrote: On Thu, April 19, 2018 5:45 am, Jan Hustak wrote: I guess there's a cognitive aspect to it as well, not related to security as such. I have over 2300 packages installed on my main Debian notebook, many of them not needed anymore. Cleaning them out is a

Re: [qubes-users] minimum size for a qube image

2018-04-20 Thread Manuel Amador (Rudd-O)
On 2018-04-16 20:50, Jan Hustak wrote: > Hello, > I'm also open to discussing the basic concept: is it worth trying to > keep, for example, Firefox and GIMP in separate qubes, or should I > just relax and use one fat TemplateVM with the union of all packages I > need? > Fat template with

Re: [qubes-users] minimum size for a qube image

2018-04-19 Thread cooloutac
On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 4:00:55 AM UTC-4, awokd wrote: > On Thu, April 19, 2018 5:45 am, Jan Hustak wrote: > > > > > I guess there's a cognitive aspect to it as well, not related to > > security as such. I have over 2300 packages installed on my main Debian > > notebook, many of them not

Re: [qubes-users] minimum size for a qube image

2018-04-18 Thread Jan Hustak
I'm also not sure that separating large GUI apps from each other in different VMs is an answer to anything; once you have the layers in place to support one large app, you probably have most potential app-related vulns installed at that point. My personal recommendation is to use debian-9 for

Re: [qubes-users] minimum size for a qube image

2018-04-18 Thread Chris Laprise
However... in terms of flexible _and_ secure deployment of software, Qubes could stand some improvement. I wonder if there are compatible packaging systems that could be adapted to modular app deployment per-VM. Something like 'snaps' might work. And the deployment method could be an

Re: [qubes-users] minimum size for a qube image

2018-04-18 Thread Chris Laprise
On 04/16/2018 04:50 PM, Jan Hustak wrote: Hello, I really like Qubes' isolation approach. I would also like to isolate the programs I run from code they don't need. So I want to split not just my data into separate qubes, but also the software that works with said data. One way to do this

Re: [qubes-users] minimum size for a qube image

2018-04-16 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
> However, The VM Manager insists on at least 10 GB for each qube. Giving > up 100 GB with 75 GB empty (i.e. 15 % of total disk space) is steep. So my > question is: how can I create smaller images for my qubes? This is thin provisioned on disk, not dedicated. So you could give each VM 100GB,

[qubes-users] minimum size for a qube image

2018-04-16 Thread Jan Hustak
Hello, I really like Qubes' isolation approach. I would also like to isolate the programs I run from code they don't need. So I want to split not just my data into separate qubes, but also the software that works with said data. One way to do this is to install required software under