Re: [qubes-users] system-config-printer gives different results in template and VM
On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 11:43 AM unman wrote: > On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 11:03:43AM -0300, Franz wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 11:20 PM unman > wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 11:25:47AM -0300, Franz wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > if I write system-config-printer in the debian template I get the > > > expected > > > > GUI to config the printer and everything works as expected. > > > > > > > > If I write the same in the VM depending from the template, I get: > > > > Printing service not available. Start the service on this computer or > > > > connect to another server. > > > > If I click on start the service, nothing happens. > > > > > > > > After many years using Qubes, the template and the VM depending from > the > > > > template always behaved in the same way. I cannot understand why the > > > > template works and the VM does not. > > > > > > > > To be sure, I tried on two different VMs depending from the same > template > > > > an none works > > > > Best > > > > Franz > > > > > > > > > > You don't have cups/cupsd enabled in the qube: enable it on Services > tab > > > of GUI or using `qvm-service` > > > > > > > > Many thanks Unman, but why does the template not give the same error? > > > > I understand this kind of problem should be fixed in the template, not in > > the VM that depends on the template. > > > > But if the template works, how may I fix something that already works? > > best > > Franz > > By default Debian will enable services (and start them) after > installation. This is a problem for templates, which is why there is > specific advice about installing services in to Debian templates. > By contrast Fedora does not automatically start services. > > Many thanks Unman, I tried to start cups using Qubes manager GUI and now even the VM works and this survives reboot. No way I could have thought it alone. There are many services which can be enabled or disabled in an template > based qube. cups is just one of them. > That said, I'm puzzled as to why cups *is* running in your template - it > doesn't seem to be in my Debian 10. > Well I suspect that cups is running in my template Debian 10. In fact if I digit system-config-printer it starts the printer GUI without errors. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/CAPzH-qAfSLvkHFi6nmZ__MRGHFv17tWk8Tso7PSarZ2u%3DBnajQ%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [qubes-users] system-config-printer gives different results in template and VM
On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 11:03:43AM -0300, Franz wrote: > On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 11:20 PM unman wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 11:25:47AM -0300, Franz wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > if I write system-config-printer in the debian template I get the > > expected > > > GUI to config the printer and everything works as expected. > > > > > > If I write the same in the VM depending from the template, I get: > > > Printing service not available. Start the service on this computer or > > > connect to another server. > > > If I click on start the service, nothing happens. > > > > > > After many years using Qubes, the template and the VM depending from the > > > template always behaved in the same way. I cannot understand why the > > > template works and the VM does not. > > > > > > To be sure, I tried on two different VMs depending from the same template > > > an none works > > > Best > > > Franz > > > > > > > You don't have cups/cupsd enabled in the qube: enable it on Services tab > > of GUI or using `qvm-service` > > > > > Many thanks Unman, but why does the template not give the same error? > > I understand this kind of problem should be fixed in the template, not in > the VM that depends on the template. > > But if the template works, how may I fix something that already works? > best > Franz By default Debian will enable services (and start them) after installation. This is a problem for templates, which is why there is specific advice about installing services in to Debian templates. By contrast Fedora does not automatically start services. There are many services which can be enabled or disabled in an template based qube. cups is just one of them. That said, I'm puzzled as to why cups *is* running in your template - it doesn't seem to be in my Debian 10. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20210120144346.GA930%40thirdeyesecurity.org.
Re: [qubes-users] system-config-printer gives different results in template and VM
On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 11:20 PM unman wrote: > On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 11:25:47AM -0300, Franz wrote: > > Hello, > > > > if I write system-config-printer in the debian template I get the > expected > > GUI to config the printer and everything works as expected. > > > > If I write the same in the VM depending from the template, I get: > > Printing service not available. Start the service on this computer or > > connect to another server. > > If I click on start the service, nothing happens. > > > > After many years using Qubes, the template and the VM depending from the > > template always behaved in the same way. I cannot understand why the > > template works and the VM does not. > > > > To be sure, I tried on two different VMs depending from the same template > > an none works > > Best > > Franz > > > > You don't have cups/cupsd enabled in the qube: enable it on Services tab > of GUI or using `qvm-service` > > Many thanks Unman, but why does the template not give the same error? I understand this kind of problem should be fixed in the template, not in the VM that depends on the template. But if the template works, how may I fix something that already works? best Franz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/CAPzH-qCjO6j1U5xUTUk57LxR2Vry7dxzVLMETBH81mLcWTug5Q%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [qubes-users] system-config-printer gives different results in template and VM
On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 11:25:47AM -0300, Franz wrote: > Hello, > > if I write system-config-printer in the debian template I get the expected > GUI to config the printer and everything works as expected. > > If I write the same in the VM depending from the template, I get: > Printing service not available. Start the service on this computer or > connect to another server. > If I click on start the service, nothing happens. > > After many years using Qubes, the template and the VM depending from the > template always behaved in the same way. I cannot understand why the > template works and the VM does not. > > To be sure, I tried on two different VMs depending from the same template > an none works > Best > Franz > You don't have cups/cupsd enabled in the qube: enable it on Services tab of GUI or using `qvm-service` -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20210120022029.GD30298%40thirdeyesecurity.org.
[qubes-users] system-config-printer gives different results in template and VM
Hello, if I write system-config-printer in the debian template I get the expected GUI to config the printer and everything works as expected. If I write the same in the VM depending from the template, I get: Printing service not available. Start the service on this computer or connect to another server. If I click on start the service, nothing happens. After many years using Qubes, the template and the VM depending from the template always behaved in the same way. I cannot understand why the template works and the VM does not. To be sure, I tried on two different VMs depending from the same template an none works Best Franz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/CAPzH-qC5kp%3Dz8ze8BsVmqWTvBV-ng3%3DAcfoa0hE%3DdNP_pyS4TA%40mail.gmail.com.
