Re: [qubes-users] Blank screen after 10 minutes
On 09/25/2016 05:36 PM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: What about disabling xscreensaver completely for 120 mins? Something like: xscreensaver-command -exit sleep 7200 xscreensaver & No settings are changed, so unexpected system reboot isn't a problem. Easy, if it's safe(?) :) Seems, I can do the tool. -- Regards -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/9b91258a-aab2-9b22-9721-cdfb4eddca09%40openmailbox.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Blank screen after 10 minutes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 05:05:36PM +0300, Eva Star wrote: > On 09/25/2016 01:36 PM, Andrew David Wong wrote: > > > Sure, that could make sense. Some desktop environments already support > > something similar. For example, in KDE you can assign different power > > settings (including timeouts) to different "activities," then assign > > hotkeys (or use a GUI widget) to switch between "activities." > > > > i explore the problem. is is not so hard to do (send new settings to > xscreensaver at dom0): > > 1. when key combination pressed: change .xscreensaver file at user home and > notify xscreensaver daemon about that. > 2. then wait 130 mins and change them to the defaults. > > The only one problem is unexpected system reboot, when temporary settings > will be stored as defaults. It's bad. > > Maybe the scheme: > 1. when key combination pressed: change .xscreensaver file at user home and > notify xscreensaver daemon about that. > 2. then IMMEDIATELY change .xscreensaver file to defaults WITHOUT daemon > notifications will work. I think, that daemon will read new configuration > from .xscreensaver file automatically after 130 mins, but I'm not sure that > it will not read it before... Need some testing... What about disabling xscreensaver completely for 120 mins? Something like: xscreensaver-command -exit sleep 7200 xscreensaver & No settings are changed, so unexpected system reboot isn't a problem. - -- Best Regards, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki Invisible Things Lab A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJX5+DiAAoJENuP0xzK19csUE4IAJqOXctIjWD41JhauRy6PyH1 56vpsjIbduQIhjeS1JpXD4Tn7Cu4vVN+t6CFTROD23yzvcCmbCHUvJN/PfqzUPKb hAkDS2ts0q5QErJ/z/Ys69pMxQiqDZiuP8UXY7xrLpq4N3UF/zfC1pXrapDokYnu b33dTlk54yFDTarrIa2DK89cFZt8hwLGwncZc/Hhjbh0omUHf/+7yRBo8CpoWHXu onRZuvYLn9fIkXHiOb65VLjuR94/KHJJTwmjGXfNvn6NNNC6rVECl+xc43SPKCbg tBu3OS6vcTtLgn+EcoT5ZgGful0e5kKQPVJ7eKI8KL2L/7Mpk4wwecFKZ+KyLO0= =Yp0t -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20160925143618.GN31510%40mail-itl. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Blank screen after 10 minutes
On 09/25/2016 01:36 PM, Andrew David Wong wrote: Sure, that could make sense. Some desktop environments already support something similar. For example, in KDE you can assign different power settings (including timeouts) to different "activities," then assign hotkeys (or use a GUI widget) to switch between "activities." i explore the problem. is is not so hard to do (send new settings to xscreensaver at dom0): 1. when key combination pressed: change .xscreensaver file at user home and notify xscreensaver daemon about that. 2. then wait 130 mins and change them to the defaults. The only one problem is unexpected system reboot, when temporary settings will be stored as defaults. It's bad. Maybe the scheme: 1. when key combination pressed: change .xscreensaver file at user home and notify xscreensaver daemon about that. 2. then IMMEDIATELY change .xscreensaver file to defaults WITHOUT daemon notifications will work. I think, that daemon will read new configuration from .xscreensaver file automatically after 130 mins, but I'm not sure that it will not read it before... Need some testing... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/ab187463-aee4-d907-bb24-9bbdc7c869e1%40openmailbox.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Blank screen after 10 minutes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2016-09-24 15:48, Eva Star wrote: > On 09/20/2016 03:42 PM, Andrew David Wong wrote: > >> Note: Watching a movie, even in fullscreen mode, will not affect >> this timeout, since dom0 doesn't "know" about that type of >> activity. This is arguably a security feature, since if an AppVM >> were able to delay the timeout by starting a movie, an adversary >> could exploit this in conjunction with physical access to obtain >> your machine in an unlocked state. > > > What is about the tool that will override default 10 minutes to 130 minutes > for one period by keyboard combination or shortcut? > Sure, that could make sense. Some desktop environments already support something similar. For example, in KDE you can assign different power settings (including timeouts) to different "activities," then assign hotkeys (or use a GUI widget) to switch between "activities." - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJX56ilAAoJENtN07w5UDAwSBgP/i5DlqYoHdOHFHZrZ8p2+CIn NRU0hnegECGhFd+PHwMqe88Nzd+5vw1UCkV2SOrF+QAbnbGLovZ8016WLWEtc1MQ juYTqs4zJqK3pZY1z5pbIGRGRK68yXPqWhLbT6/mVIFcATWiQTXKlpco1EEJ2qo+ Kqp7Mfmer+5yP0xrYTWMtbtscjT+tNZKHP2+U20ydpbL1ypJ40N+jdzq6k8WwKi4 nS9uSiR0VEV4nINgxTrd0jsg4WZ6ZKRW35oCt+t7P81nhYIHvrdf8Rlq46SFJ8FZ +Z+n5KjGfrlwHupCV35NPdj7riv3i5hxOsdaOpG8VPVNTkeoXlg64gLy+/hI/8Zw p4KTjyKpj+3q2kTJNQGAgP8oCrRtxqjzizeQTOxA3IxJ8woogEiFU8xNKv6dIZne f/GqOgIIy0uw0q/NHgFX/JN2YEnw8ASqVBUT+inQj5lFFvZHci0O+ZwyEE+a1j93 wq+4rSfPoytnc21+R19rci47ZOaLIMaFy43xzcdHDTpZIapWgn8M2zC+7gw2Av8Y gupJU/atBGPrpuExiYY442EmzMgp1CIKRu/CRe6u1/hDeK4Dfbp28kzAB6YG7Yhu xj1ORySItowCEKdDZTrXAl+6eP9q85nIJwnB7di9qY1vAvehmiOFn0FKDSQH9pCT 7O5DlBTl74VUMgvpxCeB =Wh6p -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/f40e2924-77b1-6301-0d19-c21209a3e1a7%40qubes-os.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Blank screen after 10 minutes
On 09/20/2016 03:42 PM, Andrew David Wong wrote: Note: Watching a movie, even in fullscreen mode, will not affect this timeout, since dom0 doesn't "know" about that type of activity. This is arguably a security feature, since if an AppVM were able to delay the timeout by starting a movie, an adversary could exploit this in conjunction with physical access to obtain your machine in an unlocked state. What is about the tool that will override default 10 minutes to 130 minutes for one period by keyboard combination or shortcut? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/6a569ac1-d579-8528-6909-27408770fa6f%40openmailbox.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Blank screen after 10 minutes
> Try this: > System Tools -> Power Management -> Energy Saving > Note: Watching a movie, even in fullscreen mode, will not affect > this timeout, since dom0 doesn't "know" about that type of > activity. This is arguably a security feature, since if an AppVM > were able to delay the timeout by starting a movie, an adversary > could exploit this in conjunction with physical access to obtain > your machine in an unlocked state. Thanks Axon, that was it! Wrapper around movie player could enable/disable energy saving via qrexec-client - anyone is free to decide on this. Thanks again! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/dd8a8fae-e90f-482e-99c3-b33ebe51c027%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Blank screen after 10 minutes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2016-09-20 03:20, tom...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm on Qubes3.1 (with regular updates in dom0). > When mouse or screen is not touched for 10 minutes I got screen becoming > black and asking for password if I fail to move the mouse in few seconds. > (which is annoying when watching movie). All attached displays are blanked. > > The annoying part is I cannot find setting for this. In dom0 System > Settings->Display and Monitor->Screen locker I have unchecked "Start > automatically". > > Any ideas where is the setting that control this? > > regards, > Tom > Try this: System Tools -> Power Management -> Energy Saving 1. Set your desired "Screen Energy Saving" timeout in minutes. Note: Watching a movie, even in fullscreen mode, will not affect this timeout, since dom0 doesn't "know" about that type of activity. This is arguably a security feature, since if an AppVM were able to delay the timeout by starting a movie, an adversary could exploit this in conjunction with physical access to obtain your machine in an unlocked state. Then: System Tools -> Power Management -> Advanced Settings 2. Uncheck "Lock screen on resume" (if this is what you want) - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJX4S7AAAoJENtN07w5UDAw+4kQAICKhvy7PPt8PiKGGvvof1Tb //aWx7VXs6PqvkZtCixcx512Ivw8fF8X/A5oAqm07MTt7ViSZRA9SeQcZN/2SOti /P/BgaLcXf+2vB0Zcr9NaVybbCwlGXEHWv8TxFsbDk/G+grqFBFlmz5DKEZ2MNjM 2wcKQGkbUqkOCFcsaOJyb9sbTODnhUMRvHlsGkcOoO9J4tLrfYCgUQZGhoCib2pt jDq8xiNeUXipGqeWvg0+zbAFjOX0l4UcMpetg0X+/Q3wkwKG4BtGU7iE49/5z6W0 upMtOv/B/WeJY6UOnk3mebQJYEqv/Y/u8YDbd2EXIE6KSeQK4I8zVuyAz9TDhChC VXbAqd35htTCmBzZCOMJsdgkvWY0ZSidGOaZoVlbJNjAy0BF/g6x+TH6OQdGQkwZ 4npRYuQHgwGdlIYFq6gVjLNsZLnYBdHe6ZkQojm/RDfIyfk2/yOcHBUW7RF4lSpz pZjw6WQ40dLttzffqDQuzEpqBkXYBWDlVCeEqSoxcEIh09XlsI5FDMjFiR/mDMCk Tas96vzrbJk9vE+fTsjxOs1zilnZySwBdr87eV0M2OWsShZFogro1Ys2gQ/Ty0SO GPSbLBiK9r9WozUjwMCupcbaqm+OMvyUp3u2ZdDnhFfoSm11p9TfSECWGak4VwEr TIFRxEKx0eS9dUaOMXOL =rixD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/5c963244-0e10-41f8-483e-99c835338a95%40qubes-os.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Blank screen after 10 minutes
try Presentation mode in the power manager panel plugin. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/2aeeb353-0061-4c94-ab59-21519323781f%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Blank screen after 10 minutes
Hi all, I'm on Qubes3.1 (with regular updates in dom0). When mouse or screen is not touched for 10 minutes I got screen becoming black and asking for password if I fail to move the mouse in few seconds. (which is annoying when watching movie). All attached displays are blanked. The annoying part is I cannot find setting for this. In dom0 System Settings->Display and Monitor->Screen locker I have unchecked "Start automatically". Any ideas where is the setting that control this? regards, Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/4252d6fd-2453-4816-86a4-a1b51964b189%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
