Re: [qubes-users] How to install software on templates (Qubes 4.0)
On Wednesday, December 27, 2017 at 7:49:55 PM UTC-5, Eric Scoles wrote: > I don't know what you're asking me to try. you can connect to the fedora repos but nothing else. unless that program comes from 3rd party repo it should just work. have you tried the 2016 version? That one is beta prolly why its not in the repos. 2018 is only on windows according to their website. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/2b9687b7-7e46-4908-b2a0-7342cbdffb9d%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] How to install software on templates (Qubes 4.0)
I don't know what you're asking me to try. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/15ce6b3c-22b6-4558-848f-45eb7460f727%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] How to install software on templates (Qubes 4.0)
On Tuesday, 26 December 2017 23:58:36 CET Eric Scoles wrote: > Sorry, I guess I'm not understanding your answer. The 'usual way' to > install in an upstream distro would be to connect to the network. Your ‘yum’, ‘pacman’, ‘apt-get’ have access to the internet via a proxy solution. Please give it a try. -- Tom Zander Blog: https://zander.github.io Vlog: https://vimeo.com/channels/tomscryptochannel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/22619918.86Z0RbBJyT%40strawberry. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] How to install software on templates (Qubes 4.0)
Sorry, I guess I'm not understanding your answer. The 'usual way' to install in
an upstream distro would be to connect to the network. Again, as I understand
it, in Qubes 4, we can't do that anymore from templates:
Templates don't have Net-VM's in Qubes 4. All updates are run over the
Qubes-tools, and are no longer networked.
[https://groups.google.com/d/msg/qubes-users/aBE-U9YKhjU/0t7hspsbAgAJ]
What I imagine I'll try next is to get the RPM into the template filesystem and
use command line tools to install it. Is that what you mean by "the usual
methods"? That still leaves the package without a clear way to be updated.
As far as the 'trusted' or 'not trusted' nature of a particular piece of
software: We need to install what we need to install. If the system prevents
people from doing what they need to do, they won't use the system -- that's
axiomatic. So that's a net reduction in security. ('The best security is the
security you use.')
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Re: [qubes-users] How to install software on templates (Qubes 4.0)
In short, software is to be installed in your template exactly the same as you would do it in the ‘upstream’ way. So if you are using a debian template, you’d be able to go to the debian wiki pages that explain how to do it. So your question 1 and two are answers with; “like in the upstream distro". > 3. What if we need to install a package that's not available via a repo? This opens a bit more complex situation because software not available for a public repo may cause the issue of it not being trusted. I don’t trust skype, for instance. Technically the installation is not too difficult, you just follow the instructions from the place you find the software. But it is important to assess how much you trust this software and its installer because changes made in a template will have an effect on ALL qubes that are based on it. Installing untrusted software in a template may end up exposing your data in the “work” qube that is based on it. You may consider creating a new AppVM where you install the software (again, using the instructions from the place where you find the software). Check the /rw/config dir, there is a binds configuration that allows you to specify which files or directories are kept between restarts. Hope this helps. -- Tom Zander Blog: https://zander.github.io Vlog: https://vimeo.com/channels/tomscryptochannel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/4259797.hveZSERC7u%40strawberry. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] How to install software on templates (Qubes 4.0)
Per this, in Qubes 4.0 software is to be installed using Qubes tools. https://groups.google.com/d/msg/qubes-users/aBE-U9YKhjU/0t7hspsbAgAJ Is there at this time any documentation of how that's done? The current list of CLI tools doesn't seem to include anything that relates. I looked at Yum Extender under System Tools, but don't see any way to either install arbitrary RPMs or add new repos. This: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/334117/how-to-add-software-sources-for-dom0-in-qubes ...suggests that the correct way to do it is to temporarily add a repo, then remove it when you're done installing. 1. Is that the canonical method? 2. How would we retrieve updates? 3. What if we need to install a package that's not available via a repo? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/6ad1c37a-062a-47c8-8edc-5b49298a6e63%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
