Re: [qubes-users] Announcement: Qubes Tor onion services will no longer be maintained

2019-03-26 Thread jsnow

22...@tutamail.com:

My understanding is:

The -gw and -ws templates, -dvm, appvm, etc and functionality will 
remain...correct?

The Qubes-os.org onion site is going away...right?

I have been keeping pretty good track of my changes from default install(dom0 and 
templates) over the past few year when I originally installed 4.0, but "...have been 
relying on (e.g., for package repos..." might have been something I did a while ago. 
How would one check this?


Yes the qubes onion hosting (website and repo) is gone, but the 
announcement from Andrew said that unman is working on hosting it again 
(thank you unman!)


Until that's back up the only thing that needs to be changed is your 
update source, if you changed it to the qubes onion repo before (the 
whonix onion repo is still working).


To check, in debian/whonix templates, look in 
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/qubes-r?.list (? is 4 or 3 depending on qubes 
version). If you have a .onion address in there it needs to be changed 
back to the clearnet address until the onion repo is back up.


In dom0 (and i think in fedora templates too) the relevant files are in 
/etc/yum.repos.d/


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Re: [qubes-users] Announcement: Qubes Tor onion services will no longer be maintained

2019-03-25 Thread 22rip
I just donated a small amount...not much but all I can right now. I would 
encourage others if you can...both Qubes and Whonix do good work!

Maybe someone can clarify and help. I have been using Qubes for a while 
favoring Whonix when I can.

My understanding is:

The -gw and -ws templates, -dvm, appvm, etc and functionality will 
remain...correct?

The Qubes-os.org onion site is going away...right? 

I have been keeping pretty good track of my changes from default install(dom0 
and templates) over the past few year when I originally installed 4.0, but 
"...have been relying on (e.g., for package repos..." might have been something 
I did a while ago. How would one check this?

Thanks again...

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Re: [qubes-users] Announcement: Qubes Tor onion services will no longer be maintained

2019-03-25 Thread qubenix
Andrew David Wong:
> Dear Qubes Community,
> 
> We regret to announce that the Qubes Tor onion services will no longer
> be maintained due to lack of resources. This includes all Qubes onion
> services, including the Qubes website onion mirror and the onion package
> repos.
> 
> We would like to thank the Whonix Project for generously maintaining
> these services for over a year. [1] Maintaining the Tor onion services
> requires labor, servers, and bandwidth. Unfortunately, none of these
> resources are available to the Qubes OS or Whonix projects in sufficient
> quantities to allow us to continue offering these services.
> 
> We recommend that users who currently rely on any Qubes onion addresses
> transition to the corresponding clearnet addresses immediately.
> 
> 
> [1] 
> https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2018/01/23/qubes-whonix-next-gen-tor-onion-services/
> 
> This announcement is also available on the Qubes website:
> https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2019/03/24/tor-onion-services-no-longer-maintained/
> 
> 

Wow, very sad. May I ask why so many extra resources are needed? Can't
you just install tor on the system that hosts your clearnet repos?

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Re: [qubes-users] Announcement: Qubes Tor onion services will no longer be maintained

2019-03-24 Thread jrsmiley
This is seriously bad news. If you and Whonix are that resource strapped, it 
does not bode well for the future of either team.  I have done my part and 
contributed what I could to both. 

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Re: [qubes-users] Announcement: Qubes Tor onion services will no longer be maintained

2019-03-24 Thread Andrew David Wong
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On 24/03/2019 7.54 PM, haaber wrote:
>> Dear Qubes Community,
>> 
>> We regret to announce that the Qubes Tor onion services will no
>> longer be maintained due to lack of resources. This includes all
>> Qubes onion services, including the Qubes website onion mirror
>> and the onion package repos.
>> 
>> We would like to thank the Whonix Project for generously
>> maintaining these services for over a year. [1] Maintaining the
>> Tor onion services requires labor, servers, and bandwidth.
>> Unfortunately, none of these resources are available to the Qubes
>> OS or Whonix projects in sufficient quantities to allow us to
>> continue offering these services.
>> 
>> We recommend that users who currently rely on any Qubes onion
>> addresses transition to the corresponding clearnet addresses
>> immediately.
>> 
> Maybe you could have added two lines how to do this. Is is correct
> / sufficient for this  transition to choose sys-firewall as
> UpdateVM in qubesManager->GlobalSettings ?
> 

It is not necessary to switch from sys-whonix to sys-firewall. Whonix
VMs will still continue to work as before. This announcement just
means that you should switch from any Qubes Tor onion service domains
(ending in ".onion") that you may have been relying on (e.g., for
package repos or the Qubes website) to instead use the corresponding
clearnet domain (usually qubes-os.org). Note that you can still use
Tor with clearnet domains.

If you were not using any Qubes Tor onion services, then this
announcement does not affect you.

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Community Manager, Qubes OS
https://www.qubes-os.org

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Re: [qubes-users] Announcement: Qubes Tor onion services will no longer be maintained

2019-03-24 Thread haaber

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Dear Qubes Community,

We regret to announce that the Qubes Tor onion services will no longer
be maintained due to lack of resources. This includes all Qubes onion
services, including the Qubes website onion mirror and the onion package
repos.

We would like to thank the Whonix Project for generously maintaining
these services for over a year. [1] Maintaining the Tor onion services
requires labor, servers, and bandwidth. Unfortunately, none of these
resources are available to the Qubes OS or Whonix projects in sufficient
quantities to allow us to continue offering these services.

We recommend that users who currently rely on any Qubes onion addresses
transition to the corresponding clearnet addresses immediately.


Maybe you could have added two lines how to do this. Is is correct /
sufficient for this  transition to choose sys-firewall as UpdateVM in
qubesManager->GlobalSettings ?

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